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February 28, 2019, 04:30:35 AM
#50
If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.

I get your point but apart from massive adoption, there should also be a limitation from the exchanges. The exchange sure has a part to play in constant dump of Bitcoin. Everyday more than ten exchanges pops up but nobody is limiting them on the actions they are taking.
I believe a regulations of how Bitcoin are sold per day should be a great help.
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February 28, 2019, 03:07:47 AM
#49
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it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com.

I would like to think that the investigation is more about Tether itself and less about Bitcoin manipulation, because there's no reason for them to be concerned about it. I see where you're coming from though, as I could easily see them using regulated markets as an excuse. It could set a terrifying precedent.
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February 28, 2019, 01:37:17 AM
#48
More nations have to give green signal for crypto currency especially the most populated countries they should come forward and make this visible to the public, yes BTC has already been a hot topic in the world for its massive growth in 2017. As much as the demand and supply increases the value of BTC will automatically Increase.

If couple of big countries give the green signal and legalises the crypto thus would be the best way that any market would like to have . Market will start rising very quickly and can even rise couple of thousands dollars in a day.
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February 28, 2019, 12:58:59 AM
#47
The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.

it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com

Are you deliberately spreading FUD?

As it looks this way exactly. More specifically, why the American regulating bodies now see foreign cryptocurrency exchanges as under their jurisdiction? Bitfinex is not a US exchange, and as far as I know, they don't allow to trade US citizens there. The CFTC has been looking into this exchange since times immemorial, they even fined Bitfinex a few years ago, and what does it have to do with the launch of regulated futures? Care to explain yourself?
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February 28, 2019, 12:49:05 AM
#46
The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.

it sets up a fundamentally dangerous situation though, like what we're seeing at bitfinex. i'd be very wary of keeping any funds there right now, or in USDT. due to the launch of regulated futures markets in the USA, the feds now see offshore spot exchanges as being under their jurisdiction. that's why the CFTC has been investigating bitfinex and tether re market manipulation for more than a year now, and more recently the DOJ (the criminal enforcement arm) has joined the investigation. that's some scary shit. i keep expecting to see a FBI takedown page at bitfinex.com.
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February 27, 2019, 11:39:07 PM
#45
If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.

It will happen soon, don't worry about that Grin

I am sure that there will be a massive people who come into bitcoin/cryptocurrency because they realize that bitcoin/cryptocurrency is a new way to solve they're financial especially for making a transaction. Once there is an increase in the price like in 2017-2018, people will amazed and see about bitcoin power, and they will think that bitcoin is not a scam and they will search more about bitcoin. Besides that, I think we read some news about the adoption of bitcoin in the online payment, and some websites are already using bitcoin as the other payment, and of course, it helps the process of adoption in online payment.

Soon, there will be many more online stores will using bitcoin as the payment too and when it happens, bitcoin can compete with the other online payment processor.
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February 27, 2019, 09:34:38 PM
#44
The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.

The very idea of a free market though, is that everyone is free to do what they want, including manipulate lol. This is why people have been saying that Bitcoin is being manipulated for the longest time, even before actual evidence has surfaced. The completely decentralized model we have right now makes the market especially vulnerable, and the only way to really stop it (or realistically speaking, just slow it down) is for a central entity to come in and penalize shady actors. I understand that most people in the market want it to be organic, but enforcing that comes with the price of losing freedom.
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February 27, 2019, 12:44:32 PM
#43
everyone wants bitcoin to rise and there are also many ways from everyone at this world, except that the implementation is very difficult which can apply only big people and some classy product builders or big CEO who can grow prices in the market. expand the image to the public through news on television media or other media that can embrace everyone to increase demand mate
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February 27, 2019, 12:33:08 PM
#42
If we want to raise the price of bitcoin we need to make massive adoption so that the demand will increase automatically also BTC should come up with some unique ideas where the public should rely to buy more apart from this big investors need to jump in BTC to pump the value. If things goes welll and good I am sure the price of bitcoin will gear up for sure.
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February 27, 2019, 11:48:12 AM
#41
Man, this is by far the worst suggestion I have ever seen in my entire life. Enron looks like a innocent company compared to the suggestions like these. You can't just force the market upside because as soon as you let it go the price will be in freefall again.

The reason why we are in a decentralized world is to get rid of these kinds of stuff, let the price be whatever it is and do not encourage people to make it higher or do not discourage people to make it lower, just let the people decide what they want without anything other than free market. That way we can at least know the real price of bitcoin because there is no elements that would tamper with the price so what you see is what you get. Bitcoin is as valuable as people think it is, I love it that way and I wouldn't want it to change at all.
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February 27, 2019, 11:05:31 AM
#40
I think there are lot of ways to raise the price of bitcoin in market but the basic way to increase the price is to have a lot of investors or traders that will buy bitcoin where may triggered the demand to increase. If we can attract many people especially trader and investors the price will probably increase.
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February 27, 2019, 09:08:57 AM
#39
By the time we have that adoption, the price will reflect that and become way less volatile than it is right now. These are the times to make money and stack up Bitcoin using the pumps and dumps here, not later on when your neighbours and pension funds are in

I essentially support that view

Though with a big and fat if (even capital IF). It is not set in stone if we are in fact going to be "mass-adopted" by average Joes, now or then. Really, what's in crypto for these folks? Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck anyway (and some are massively in debt at that), but Bitcoin is not going to be a regular currency. If anything it will be a store of value, commonly referred to as "digital gold". But how many people are actually hoarding gold? Not many, I suspect
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February 27, 2019, 07:11:58 AM
#38
If we want to increase the price of bitcoin we need to have massive adoption where the demand on the market will increase.

Massive adoption is needed for use, not so much for massive price increases. We have been pumping hard for nearly a decade, and that with barely any noteworthy adoption. Bitcoin just needs to appeal to the average joes for a couple of months, and they'll fomo in like what happened back in 2017.

By the time we have that adoption, the price will reflect that and become way less volatile than it is right now. These are the times to make money and stack up Bitcoin using the pumps and dumps here, not later on when your neighbours and pension funds are in.
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February 27, 2019, 06:09:48 AM
#37
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )

This is now the game of those whales or those huge holders as they has the control of the market and being a small time investors we have no power to immediate increase the price of bitcoin as it needs huge amount of money to rise up the market price. We need mass adoptions of bitcoin and need to spread the good news about this technology to encourage others to buy more bitcoin and use it daily for payments.
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February 27, 2019, 05:22:10 AM
#36
And how's that going to be different from the platforms I mentioned?

Well if I'm being specific, with Bakkt, investors can buy physically backed futures. I guess what you're trying to say is that you're basically buying Bitcoin either way, and I agree with that. Some investors might be more inclined to play with toys they're accustomed to though

Some folks here claim that Bakkt is actually going to dilute the value of Bitcoin specifically because these futures are not going to be 100% backed up by real bitcoins. I don't particularly believe in that narrative myself (as people may start asking questions) but if it does happen, the outcome may not necessarily be positive for Bitcoin at all (like shorting it to death with piles of Wall Street money)

Do people have to understand Bitcoin's inner workings, intricacies and technicalities to use them? I guess, no. And I don't think that Bakkt will be able to add more simplicity to what we already have on this front. The only thing which seems to matter here is the name behind this platform, with Bakkt’s parent company being Intercontinental Exchange (i.e. the Wall Street dudes)

And here we are back to square one, that is, whether Wall Street traders and their likes really need it with Bitcoin when even housemaids can now have and use crypto?

It's going to be simpler in a sense that traditional investors would be able to play with Bitcoin in their arena. They won't need to step outside their comfort zone at all because they're already used to futures. It's basically like, people can seamlessly integrate investing in crypto into their routine without any additional working knowledge

It may or may not be so

I mean if they just add Bitcoin to the list of already traded assets in whatever they use for trading so that registered traders don't have to do anything (as it will feel like nothing changed), then I agree with this point. On the other hand, if the traders will have to download something entirely new or ever register with the new platform (read, file an application or anything involving paper work), then I don't see how it will be "simpler". So it will all depend on the specific details of an actual implementation
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February 27, 2019, 05:06:07 AM
#35
And how's that going to be different from the platforms I mentioned?

Well if I'm being specific, with Bakkt, investors can buy physically backed futures. I guess what you're trying to say is that you're basically buying Bitcoin either way, and I agree with that. Some investors might be more inclined to play with toys they're accustomed to though.

Do people have to understand Bitcoin's inner workings, intricacies and technicalities to use them? I guess, no. And I don't think that Bakkt will be able to add more simplicity to what we already have on this front. The only thing which seems to matter here is the name behind this platform, with Bakkt’s parent company being Intercontinental Exchange (i.e. the Wall Street dudes)

And here we are back to square one, that is, whether Wall Street traders and their likes really need it with Bitcoin when even housemaids can now have and use crypto?

It's going to be simpler in a sense that traditional investors would be able to play with Bitcoin in their arena. They won't need to step outside their comfort zone at all because they're already used to futures. It's basically like, people can seamlessly integrate investing in crypto into their routine without any additional working knowledge.

Are these needed? I would think that most of those who have a working knowledge of crypto would say no. I do believe some people would prefer these over actual coins though, considering it's catered exactly for them. It's a want rather than a need, basically. I don't necessarily think it's going to be a smashing success, but I feel like I know where they're coming from.
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February 27, 2019, 03:10:40 AM
#34
Ultimately, it all comes down to having coins in your pocket, i.e. in your local wallet (desktop, hardware, paper or otherwise), so how would Bakkt be different from, say, Coinbase, Gemini or any other regulated exchange out there?

Maybe because it would be on a platform where traditional investors are more comfortable with? Using Bitcoin has a learning curve, and I can see why that could turn some people off. With Bakkt, people who are interested but are unfamiliar with Bitcoin's inner workings can invest in a familiar environment -- there would be no need for them to catch up on the nitty gritty details, and they can dive straight to the market. That's my view on the matter, at least

And how's that going to be different from the platforms I mentioned?

Do people have to understand Bitcoin's inner workings, intricacies and technicalities to use them? I guess, no. And I don't think that Bakkt will be able to add more simplicity to what we already have on this front. The only thing which seems to matter here is the name behind this platform, with Bakkt’s parent company being Intercontinental Exchange (i.e. the Wall Street dudes)

And here we are back to square one, that is, whether Wall Street traders and their likes really need it with Bitcoin when even housemaids can now have and use crypto?
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February 27, 2019, 12:19:10 AM
#33
Ultimately, it all comes down to having coins in your pocket, i.e. in your local wallet (desktop, hardware, paper or otherwise), so how would Bakkt be different from, say, Coinbase, Gemini or any other regulated exchange out there?

Maybe because it would be on a platform where traditional investors are more comfortable with? Using Bitcoin has a learning curve, and I can see why that could turn some people off. With Bakkt, people who are interested but are unfamiliar with Bitcoin's inner workings can invest in a familiar environment -- there would be no need for them to catch up on the nitty gritty details, and they can dive straight to the market. That's my view on the matter, at least.
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February 27, 2019, 12:08:16 AM
#32
If we want to increase the price of bitcoin we need to have massive adoption where the demand on the market will increase.

This is the only real solution so we will not see a pump and dump anymore.
Institutional money is very important, they will lead a massive adoption and the way I'm seeing it, it seems like they are here but not too aggressive ye.

There are many new updates in this year and I those kind update will uplift the bear market. Right now we can see little pump in the price of bitcoin. Yet, we can't still raise the price of bitcoin in the market.


We see great updates and in fact it raises BTC up, but unfortunately that was just temporary as whales cash out early.
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February 27, 2019, 12:07:32 AM
#31
The safest way that Bitcoin rises, is when the whales do tests in price ranges, if they do the tests and the prices increase with a lot of volume and it goes up a little, it means that the offer is very big, if the price goes up and the volume it is little, it means that there is no floating offer, those ranges are ready to be dominated by them, and generate a climate of liquidity, consolidation, lateralization, to prepare to continue rising or take profits with a regression of it, I think the bitcoin operators, apply the Law of Supply-Demand, together with the volatility that can be faced.
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