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sr. member
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February 26, 2019, 10:40:10 PM
#30
If we want to increase the price of bitcoin we need to have massive adoption where the demand on the market will increase. There are many new updates in this year and I those kind update will uplift the bear market. Right now we can see little pump in the price of bitcoin. Yet, we can't still raise the price of bitcoin in the market.
hero member
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February 26, 2019, 07:17:28 PM
#29
There has been a speculation that the Bakkt Launch could roughly introduce 100 million new investors to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the market. Unlike any other platforms, Bakkt is a digital platform that will physically distribute bitcoin factors.
According to this article (will post the link under), there are roughly around 35 million cryptocurrency investors and 465 stock million traders. The Bakkt platform would be the medium to introduce this cryptocurrencies for stock traders to utilize on. With their recent partnership with Starbucks, bitcoin would also be exposed and introduced to the public with their 15,000 stalls around the world- expect the effect to snowball in the upcoming future.

Link: https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bakkt-launch-could-expose-over-100-million-new-investors-to-adopt-bitcoin-and-other-top-crypto-assets/

I have no doubt that the Bakkt launch will kick prices up

Even if on hype alone (actually, we have already seen that). However, I'm not sure if this platform will appeal to the kind of people you mention in your post, i.e. stock traders and their likes, as there is nothing that would prevent them from trading cryptocurrencies right now

Ultimately, it all comes down to having coins in your pocket, i.e. in your local wallet (desktop, hardware, paper or otherwise), so how would Bakkt be different from, say, Coinbase, Gemini or any other regulated exchange out there?

Based from the article that I read, they will be the VERY first platform to release a physically-settled bitcoin features which would involve a contract. Then, this contract would be the subject of trading in the ICE electronic platforms guaranteed by the ICE's themselves. In contrast with Bakkt, the current trading platforms (coinbase, Gemini, etc.) the transactions are digitalized.

legendary
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February 26, 2019, 09:53:34 AM
#28
There has been a speculation that the Bakkt Launch could roughly introduce 100 million new investors to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the market. Unlike any other platforms, Bakkt is a digital platform that will physically distribute bitcoin factors.
According to this article (will post the link under), there are roughly around 35 million cryptocurrency investors and 465 stock million traders. The Bakkt platform would be the medium to introduce this cryptocurrencies for stock traders to utilize on. With their recent partnership with Starbucks, bitcoin would also be exposed and introduced to the public with their 15,000 stalls around the world- expect the effect to snowball in the upcoming future.

Link: https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bakkt-launch-could-expose-over-100-million-new-investors-to-adopt-bitcoin-and-other-top-crypto-assets/

I have no doubt that the Bakkt launch will kick prices up

Even if on hype alone (actually, we have already seen that). However, I'm not sure if this platform will appeal to the kind of people you mention in your post, i.e. stock traders and their likes, as there is nothing that would prevent them from trading cryptocurrencies right now

Ultimately, it all comes down to having coins in your pocket, i.e. in your local wallet (desktop, hardware, paper or otherwise), so how would Bakkt be different from, say, Coinbase, Gemini or any other regulated exchange out there?
hero member
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February 26, 2019, 09:05:33 AM
#27
There has been a speculation that the Bakkt Launch could roughly introduce 100 million new investors to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the market. Unlike any other platforms, Bakkt is a digital platform that will physically distribute bitcoin factors.
According to this article (will post the link under), there are roughly around 35 million cryptocurrency investors and 465 stock million traders. The Bakkt platform would be the medium to introduce this cryptocurrencies for stock traders to utilize on. With their recent partnership with Starbucks, bitcoin would also be exposed and introduced to the public with their 15,000 stalls around the world- expect the effect to snowball in the upcoming future.

Link: https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bakkt-launch-could-expose-over-100-million-new-investors-to-adopt-bitcoin-and-other-top-crypto-assets/
hero member
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February 26, 2019, 08:42:16 AM
#26
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )
Market don't work this way bro! And if it will work this way it then means that it is being controlled by some group of people who may at the end manipulate in there own favor. Market movement is determine by the forces of demand and supply and not the way you want it to be.
From what we are witnessing, I think it can possibly being controlled by few large investors, people who have huge amounts of coins and money to invest, they currently controlling the market and they can facilitate from what directions they wanted to go, as long as people still being moved by the trend this shake will keep on happening, we need to follow the process of supply and demand in order to rise the value high.

That's the better strategy to do since market has long enough to go further with it's growth capability. We cannot exact determine when to initiate good signal in order for us to target a secure trading. Everything for now was still unpredictable, yet so hard to obtain possible gains. In order to help bitcoin's community we shouldn't dump our asset immediately, find more long terms holdings instead of day trading.
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February 26, 2019, 06:35:14 AM
#25
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )
Market don't work this way bro! And if it will work this way it then means that it is being controlled by some group of people who may at the end manipulate in there own favor. Market movement is determine by the forces of demand and supply and not the way you want it to be.
From what we are witnessing, I think it can possibly being controlled by few large investors, people who have huge amounts of coins and money to invest, they currently controlling the market and they can facilitate from what directions they wanted to go, as long as people still being moved by the trend this shake will keep on happening, we need to follow the process of supply and demand in order to rise the value high.
sr. member
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February 26, 2019, 06:24:07 AM
#24
I don't it think most of the people agree on that because 1 bitcoin a day selling for sure person who wants to sell their coins more than 1 bitcoin on that day are not agree on that because we have certain problems that we need big money a lot of money or for the emergency. You know the real to rise the value bitcoin again is the cooperation of the investor to buy more bitcoin there is no need to implement others because we can reached that before we can do that again.
sr. member
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February 25, 2019, 11:24:27 PM
#23
Markets weren't that responsive to the existence of exchanges and making more listings. From my understanding fake volumes through the exchanges served to be a part of the network growth. This lead to sudden growth in the marketcap as well with the rise in the price of bitcoin as well other cryptocurrencies.
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February 25, 2019, 10:04:07 PM
#22
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )
Market don't work this way bro! And if it will work this way it then means that it is being controlled by some group of people who may at the end manipulate in there own favor. Market movement is determine by the forces of demand and supply and not the way you want it to be.
They also said market depends on supply and demand, But your understanding capacity is little bit low. So try to think why this kind of restrictions are affected in the market, How mass adoption is useful to recover the market. Majority of the peoples are having narrow mind so we always follow the daily crypto news then only we will having more knowledge in crypto market.
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February 25, 2019, 05:06:25 PM
#21
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )
Market don't work this way bro! And if it will work this way it then means that it is being controlled by some group of people who may at the end manipulate in there own favor. Market movement is determine by the forces of demand and supply and not the way you want it to be.
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February 25, 2019, 04:14:45 PM
#20
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)

What happened to decentralization. I thought bitcoin was meant to defeat centralization.
This will make bitcoin look like a ponzi scheme. Let the people determine the market price of the coin through demand and supply the natural way, not through enforced restrictions.
hero member
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February 25, 2019, 12:25:22 PM
#19
More nations have to give green signal for crypto currency especially the most populated countries they should come forward and make this visible to the public, yes BTC has already been a hot topic in the world for its massive growth in 2017. As much as the demand and supply increases the value of BTC will automatically Increase.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 12:13:16 PM
#18
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.

these suggestions are the most absurd thing that i have ever heard, specially this one. what is next? you are probably going to propose that we stop letting people sell the bitcoins they have bought right away, they must wait 10 years before we "allow" them to sell!

all that aside, why do you even think doing something like that would "raise bitcoin price"? you are introducing a big negative thing into the system that will drive many away! so if anything this should lead to price drop.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 12:12:21 PM
#17
Want bitcoin to grow? Here is a strategy...

- Buy coins
- Show others you are buying
- Promote the use of bitcoin
- Invest or support the bitcoin infrastructure

There's a better strategy

And it is the only one which actually contributes to Bitcoin's long-term success, the one in which you can participate in person. I refer to using bitcoins (or any other cryptocurrency, for that matter) in real life like paying for things and services. Yes, I know that not too many merchants currently accept crypto, but that's so primarily because of us who are not very much inclined overall to part with their precious coins. Just in case, I do spend a certain amount of crypto personally, so it is not just about speculation and profiteering to me
hero member
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February 25, 2019, 08:59:25 AM
#16
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
And how are you exactly planning on doing this with your new strategy? We don't own exchanges here so we cannot impose restrictions on the buy and sell side. So far the only thing I can see in order for us to influence the market is to buy and hold as a group and if we want to push the prices down then we Sell and create FUD as a group (which I won't be planning to be a part of) other than that we cannot really influence the market not unless all of us decided to stop selling and start holding our crypto holdings.
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February 25, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
#15
OP, that's just an attempt at controlling an uncontrollable market. The whales run this show. You are along for the ride. Unless you have thousands of bitcoins and know what to do with them, it will be very, very, very hard to make any impact in the price of the markets. The only real way is mass adoption and people actually holding long term and refusing to sell. Adding a max sale amount to any exchange would just create a horrid user experience. Your suggestions go against everything bitcoin stands for.
This is true, Bitcoin must have mass adoption not by controlling traders in the exchange. People who are not a real enthusiast are refusing bitcoin when the price is low, but if the price is too high that's the time they grab the opportunity to buy bitcoin so that they have a quick profit.
The fact is that they only want profit didn't know the real value of bitcoin. Controlling price on the exchanges is nothing.
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February 25, 2019, 07:58:26 AM
#14
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )

What you are suggesting is just market manipulation that might(or might not) artificially increase the bitcoin price,but it's a manipulation after all,and it's going to backfire on all btc users.
You can't force or incentivize people to buy bitcoin.They have to decide to buy it without any external influence.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 07:52:52 AM
#13
one way to do that would be for exchanges to set aside some assets as a guarantee of them having funds to pay their users in case they lost their coins in case of hacks,... that we have been seeing in the past 10 years. and some sort of legal enforcement in place to guarantee their honesty and enforces them to pay up in case they were hacked so the users aren't the ones being scammed because of exchange incompetence.

Exchanges have very little capital of their own, especially the ones that have started more recently.

With time, most of the current crypto exchanges won't exist anymore. The legacy financial institutions will outcompete them based on how most of them won't be able to comply due to how the regulations become harsher.

Banks already have our money, so the most logical step is to offer a trading desk themselves. Instead of money leaving the country to some shady ass exchange, it will stay right there where it is and you very likely will be insured the similar way the money in your bank account is insured. We need patience for this, but the signs of them catching up are there already.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 02:32:15 AM
#12
what you said about exchanges doesn't make any sense and it won't work at all. it may even make them look shadier than they already are!

something that I was saying for some time now is the one and only way to help price increase which involves exchanges and in short it is to have more reliable exchanges. which means traders who can trust them enough to leave their money on exchanges (not as storage obviously but in open orders in active market). that helps the market grow with more packed order books, makes the price less volatile, decreases whale manipulation and panic sell effects and we can see more solid rises instead of FOMO bubbles and lack of bubbles means lack of prolonged bear markets like 2018.

one way to do that would be for exchanges to set aside some assets as a guarantee of them having funds to pay their users in case they lost their coins in case of hacks,... that we have been seeing in the past 10 years. and some sort of legal enforcement in place to guarantee their honesty and enforces them to pay up in case they were hacked so the users aren't the ones being scammed because of exchange incompetence.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 12:28:44 AM
#11
I think that the prices of bitcoin need a strategy from investors and traders & devlopers & companie

for example: - like mid 2017 When top exchanges imposed very strong restrictions to all deposit.
- creat special box loan fund (1 - 10 percent profit after 6 month & 0.01 percent profit after 1 month in top and trust exchange like binance , bitfinex , bittrex ) and that will encourage investor for holding their bitcoin with profit(  imagine if people invest about 1000000 btc for 6 moth and they can't desactive investement before 6 month.that can make price in stability and  bitcoin will gain time to 2020 and circulation of bitcoin will drop little)
- max sell in exchange is 1 bitcoin per day , without multiple acount (this is good way!) , there is no max buy
-dont allow mtgox and whale to sell their bitcoin in exchange.
- exchange print tusd and usdt (loan bank )

exchanges won't collude to prop the price up. they have incentive to undercut one another to generate more trading commissions. if one exchange limits the amount of selling, others will step in to take their business.

even if exchanges were willing to engage in this behavior, a gap would just develop between "the real price" (which buyers pay OTC and p2p) and "the fake price" listed on exchanges because they won't allow sellers into the market.

if sellers can't liquidate on exchanges, they will liquidate OTC/p2p and that will pressure the global price lower.
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