Topic: We are still early in this bull run. Retails have yet come back massively! (Read 475 times)

Which in return shows them the people who are best at SEO and not best at trading or investing. When you deal with youtube, you need to know that even though it is not google, there is some SEO involved too, some videos with less views could come up above some videos with millions more videos, it can't be like 5k versus 5 million, but could be 150k versus 4 million for example, and that is based on in-site SEO as well.

So, you are getting to see people who are good at SEO, whereas someone who is amazing at trading may ignore all those and could end up with nothing at all. These are all important stuff and should be quite the thing that we need to care about as well. I hope that it could get to a point where it's much better.

it is very possible that we will be able to reach 100k after the halving, but we also have to be realistic that 100k is the peak of the bullish market later and nothing more than that. if the market wants to break over 100k, it will need very positive news and a massive movement from retail investors to be able to buy more bitcoin. but just reaching 100k is already grateful, remembering that if it is too high maybe this will become a bubble.

I think so too. We are still early in this bull run. This bull run that we are in right now might actually take us to more than $100,000. The peak might even reach as high as $120,000 or more. If that happens, then this bull run is actually just halfway to the peak.

All that's happening right now is brought by the spot ETF and the FOMO that's also caused by it. We still have the effects of the halving and the FOMO that will also rise alongside it. $120,000 is a moderate prediction if we take into consideration the halving.

And that's why they always get left out and learn the hard lesson of never be the last man in, there often bug very close to the highest point and have to suffer the long wait till the next bulk run and who knows when.

I do agree with your speculation but I'm expecting it to peak right about march next year with no special reasons in particular or I'll like to keep to myself since I don't have any real facts to back it up, but we should also keep heads up for consolidations soon and it could go a bit more than 10% maybe before the halving or after, but I have my bets on before.

Probably correct in that we are not near the end but trying to predict hype is a very uncertain game to play.     Some of the hype and buying is not really reliable or advisable in its nature, I much prefer to see a benefit from actual genuine growth of Bitcoin and its ongoing usage thats all bullish and takes years to filter through.

   The tail of a bull whip achieves incredible speeds from its chain effect and sure we can see a parallel to that in how BTC moves under pressure because of its undiluted nature but I would not especially want to rely on that fast movement for a reliable achievement.  BTC can gain outside of consumerist type retail buying just because others have or plain reaction to prior gains snowballing an effect etc.

Well, not all ends up with good results investing in meme coins and that's a real thing. But I don't have anything against those that are investing into it and makes hefty money from it and that's a good thing on their end.

It's just that many don't experience the good side of it and that's why instead of going on with them, it's just best to go slowly but surely with Bitcoin if you don't have plans of leaving the market early.

If you're for the short term and quick profits then you have the idea on where you should go and what you must buy.

As far as I can see, it is too early to sell their holdings of bitcoins, especially to institutional investors. Even with the retailers you mention too. For me, this is not the right time to really sell,
even if we say that there is a profit. If we are sure that there is really something to raise and you know how to read the market, just stay on your feet for now.

So right now, it's actually still time to accumulate Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that we think have good potential to provide nice profits in the future.


Is the question only about meme coins getting hyped? Don't assume that only happens with meme coins; why do all meme coins end up with bad investment results for investors? Also, if they invest in meme coins that are almost on the list of well-known crypto exchanges, do you think they will zero in on those when the bull run takes off? But if the meme coins are only on a few exchanges and are unknown, then it can be said that they are shit coins, but for the meme coins that are listed on the top exchanges in crypto, I don't think so.

I think every cycle, we see this trend and when the market is on high. People's interest is over Bitcoin because the money is flowing a lot.

I hope so and hoping that they're not going to fall for scams and phishing since they're rampant as well on these times. They're not letting this opportunity pass on and most likely they're the target of these cons.

Yeah, they'll soon realize that if they just invested on Bitcoin and let their money grow there by holding. But since they're hyped with the meme coins and other altcoins that are being shilled to them, one day they'll realize on how much time they've spent so much together with their money into waste.

As much as I'd like to believe that we're in the bull run, it still doesn't place right with me that we haven't seen a big price correction yet and that scares me because that means I can never put all my money in so I can just wait for it to go up continuously and at the same time, I'm scared with the fact that I might miss out on selling now and then the price goes down and I can get in with more value than last time, I feel like the safest play would still be to hodl and DCA, then I just need to save the fiat that I've got right now in case of a big price correction, halving hasn't happened yet which means that this is not going to be the ATH for a long time.

Those investors that released their Bitcoin on time are seriously regretting the action they took in the early move of the price of Bitcoin, because they thought that the price will not increase above $50,000 in the month of January but the price has moved to $72,241 now to caused heavy income to sellers in the market. I think, the bullish season will run through out this year and it will be possible for the price of Bitcoin to hit $100,000 before the end of this year, because that is what many holders are waiting to see in the market before they will be move to release their Bitcoin for sale. Since the bullish season started on time in this season, I believe it will last long in the market for holders to achieve more income from the market.

That is a good sign that people now are truly interested about bitcoin and also
they are longing to taste the cake we are sharing here in crypto community.


Sooner they will be here , some of them are learning now and in time will surely deposit and keep funds.

don't worry about them preventing risk because in time they will realized this to
and will take all those risk because they will learn the greatness of this market.

Halving is certainly very likely to influence the interest of most investors to invest in bitcoin and take advantage of the momentum - but typical investors like this are not the ones who will last long because it is very possible for them to sell bitcoin at high prices which will increase price volatility. Of course this is normal - it's because they are not long-term holders.

A correction becomes possible ahead of the halving - but I'm not worried about that as the price will recover over time. Some FUD will influence the market and make investors panic - but I don't think such FUD will last much longer as the buying impulse becomes more intense.

Like so often: it depends

A few days ago I investigated the ATHs of a group of altcoins (those which had no premine, i.e. for example XMR or LTC, but also much smaller coins) and I made an interesting observation.

In the last bull run in 2021, most of them had an ATH or local high (not all of them achieved a new ATH in this run, but some did, or were new) in the first half of 2021, while Bitcoin had its ATH in late 2021.

2021 was however for many reasons an atypical bull run. The BTC evolution could be described almost as a double top, with $65k having been reached already in May, but the top of the bubble only reaching 69k in November. Only very few very established altcoins managed to achieve a new ATH in November. It seems that the late 2021 BTC rally was mainly fueled by recognition as legal tender in El Salvador (a "good news rally") which didn't affect altcoins, and thus they didn't join BTC.

In 2017/18, in contrast, the ATH of most altcoins was reached close to the BTC high or even afterwards (BTC's high was in mid-December, while many alts topped in early January, ETH being the most prominent example, but also others like XMR). I remember that in 2013/14 this was similar: at the end of the bull run which culminated in the $1150-1200 ATH in the case of BTC in early December, there was still a little "sucker's rally" in many altcoins, in some cases reaching new ATHs.

So basically in most bull runs there is a chance of altcoins joining Bitcoin to their highs, and even surpass it. But that's not guaranteed. As already was said in this thread, I agree fully that altcoins, regardless of their age and/or market cap, are much more risky than Bitcoin. And "hypecoins" and "smallcaps" are much more risky too. Even XMR, which was for a long time one of the most stable alts, had its big crash recently.

In comparison to BTC, in addition, altcoins seem to have lower returns across cycles. There are few coins which achieve an ATH in each cycle. Solana, for example, has made phenomenal growth in the last months but is still far away from its ATH from 2021 (of >250$).

There is always a drive and it’s won’t be unusual at this time to think that, the up cooking halving has been the drive behind most of the news and events that might have pushed for the demand on Bitcoin. Surely, a lot of factors are playing a role now to influence investors on how to go about the Bitcoin investment but, it’s been a push towards benefiting from the coming halving with past history already associated with the event. I might be wrong but the fact that, the activities on the market seems to be increasingly high as the halving approaches leaves less room for doubt.

Yeah, most of the curious and potential investors of Bitcoin are searching through Google and YouTube. They are having some keywords that they want to know more about it before they fully invest on it. That's a good job on their end because they are doing their research.

Yes, we're still early and not all of the institutional investors aren't in yet. It takes time for the majority of them gets in. What I just don't like that's being spread is many tells that they'd just get 2x-3x gain for Bitcoin if they invest on it because it's quite expensive already. While for the altcoins, they'd get more than that.

I mean yes, they're partly correct with that but not all investors are willing to take more risk with altcoins unlike with Bitcoin. They're chill and effortless by holding and seeing its value grow overtime.

I think retail will start flying in when we take $100,000. The rise in price is largely due to Spot ETFs hoovering up supply. Once some months have passed after the halving & we pass $100,000 Bitcoin will be on every mainstreak news outlet, that’s when retail investors will fly in.

I agree that bitcoin will end up with a lot better results in the end, not that much of a crazy stuff, but something that could take a while. This should be something that will take a bit of a time, it's just not that much of a big deal for me. I hope that it could get made one way or another, but that doesn't mean that bitcoin is the only reason.

Some alts do go up based on other things too, like rumours and news and new developments too but usually those are not all that much of a big deal. I hope to consider this to be more like market movement and the whole market moves like that. It would be a lot better if we could just avoid it all together and not really do anything that would be super crazy, it is not really a big deal, all go up, all go down, simple as that.

Why, when you've already made hundreds of profits, don't take profits and wait for them to decrease? What do you expect to earn multifold profits from altcoins?

Have you ever thought, there are thousands of altcoin projects but why are there only very few projects invested in by venture capital funds and the rest are just trash? Choosing altcoin projects to invest in is not too difficult, why do many people deliberately complicate the problem? But if you have no knowledge about altcoins then you should not invest in them.

If you want to know which trend money will flow into first and which trend later, I think you need a team working together and using analytical tools.

Investing in altcoins is really risky and a difficult process because we have to choose a few projects among thousands, but if someone knows how, they will get a worthy reward. In addition to the memecoins I mentioned, try checking altcoins like FET, RNDR, WLD, RSS3...what percentage of profits did those who bought it in 2022 and 2023 get. If I were to average the profits would be between 5x and 7x per project. But things won't stop there, let's wait and see where they will go in the upcoming bull season.

I pointed out that if you are altcoin enthusiast and joined this market in 2021, 2022 and did not sell your altcoins, it's very probably you are still in loss even many altcoins pumped hard recent weeks.

This fact from the past will reappear in future, in next bear market like next two years. That is vital point I want to warn newbies who see so high potential in altcoins.

A tip is altcoins are only potential at the start of bull run or at the end of bear market. In middle of a bull market or middle of a bear market, you will possibly be rekted by altcoins.

Btc always claim position as the king of all crypto. Imagine btc performance from 35k to current price in few weeks, i csn agree that we are yet to see retailers full involvement, probably after the halving. Alts haven't move that much.
I bet this price increase was not expected by the btc community.

We are at the beginning of what others described as the year of the dragon, the year of crazy price pump. Am expecting alts to follow up after btc halving or closer to the time. Although some alts has been performing really well, especially the memecoins, investors in these coins are happy with the price progress.
Now is the time to be well positioned in potential alts.