Topic: We need a merit system for local boards (Read 522 times)

I think it should be a problem with local boards individually. I haven't seen the same problem on my board, however, it's less active than others. Anyways, it's a pretty good idea. In my opinion admins should really think about it.

I just had a look and found most Dutch local board users that had received merits received them on the German board and Main board.

Most Dutch people have learned English, German and French in addition to Dutch.  Spanish and Italian is relatively common too.

That too is a factor, since there are countries who’s population has way better command of English than others. For example, there is an abysmal difference between Mediterranean countries (lower) and north European countries in general (much higher).

Last time I checked in September (see Analysis - Ranked-up Users – Section/Subsection profile (& Local Boards)), I counted only 2 people who has managed to rank-up at least one level (>=Member) under the Merit System in the Dutch board, purely receiving all the required sMerit on the local board. An additional 5 that had done so receiving the required sMerit both on the local Dutch board, and other general English boards. Of course I do not have a reference to those that post and get merited solely on the English sections of the forum.

There are plenty of people that go there that have merits available and that speak the language. Including some of the merit sources.

Isn't the merit system introduced to reduce spam and increase quality? Having merit source on particular board will definitely increase that quality of that board, IMO. The current posts may be not enough qualitative, but if someone starts to encourage sending sMerits on good posts, others will also think of posting something constructive, helpful.

Indeed and that would be a real trouble for newbies. LOL. Actually I have thought of this so this could be a another problem if OP's demand will be granted. Struggle is real for the newbies in their local board and that is not how the admin would want to happen. Administrator are more considerate than to what I expected. Probably, the problem will not be addressed or resolve by creating sub merit system for their local boards. It is in their local board has the problem and not the forum itself.

Sorry but the quality of posts on the Dutch board is crap.

Most just a couple of lines or promoting something.

Last time I looked I had trouble sending one merit there. A merit source for there would be unemployed.

Threads talking about merit there:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-in-nederlandstalige-community-3494821
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-4171472
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wat-zijn-jullie-gedachten-over-het-nieuwe-merit-systeem-2831103
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merits-nieuwe-vereisten-voor-rangen-4894433

I've even said it there.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39332168

There's a more obvious explanation:
Short summary in English: we Dutch speakers easily join threads in other languages (mainly English), so we don't have to stick to the Dutch board.

That would mean a new user who doesn't speak English can't post anywhere, and thus can't earn Merit either.

Probably OP wants to introduce another sub merit system for their local board allowing only good users to post on their section. The discretion and the decision to allow good users to post will be managed by the moderators on that board. The moderator/admin will set a sub merit system to allow only users that reach the least certain amount of merit to be qualified to join in the local board. This may be a good idea because spamming in their local section will be reduced.

Yet, if post is to be reduced on local board then probably the shit poster will then return to spam on Super Mega Thread section. The problem could be solve on local board but the problem will go overboard on other section especially the SMT.

Besides, suggesting for a sub merit system in the local boards will limit only to higher ranks or to those who are qualified to post in the local boards and the newbies with great and brilliant minds will be limited to this. Probably this will create another problem on OP suggestion.

As the legend says since we had a lot of differences here in the forum due to our culture and values it may be good to follow what the forum has offered. We should adapt how the admin run the forum instead of complaining and suggesting an idea that will only allow to create another form of problem. So, I must say to follow the forum, respect begets, and love the users here instead of complaining. LOL

The local Dutch Board, as many others, is not one that proliferates on merit. Awarded monthly merit has been as follows on that board:
October (7), September (4), August (20), July (40), June (27), May (36), April (19), March (41), February (116) and January (35).
The aggregate monthly amount is therefore measly, more so as of recent dates.

On the other hand, the number of monthly posts in the Dutch Local forum seems pretty small too: The average over the last three months is of around 21 posts per day, but just on the Altcoin section it is around 17 per day (*).
(*) Data derived from the board official post count today and contrasting to archieved date over the last months (deleted post/threads could impact the provided data).

The issue seems to be that there is not much activity going on the Dutch local board, be it due to awareness of the forum, size of crypto community, lack of merit incentive, lack of good topics, or a combination of all. The major activity seems to be driven to the Altcoin childboard (which I think combines Altcoin Discussion, Ann, Bounties and so on in a single childboard, as happens in most local boards).

That's not true at all. I have reported 32 posts and of course, some of those are from my local thread.
I really prefer to report spam posts from my local thread because I want to keep it free from spam.

What have you meant my members? Rank or Everyone?
If rank, everyone can apply for becoming merit source.
If you referred overall members of the forum, well, that depends on people. Why should it be encouraged? If someone is willing to become merit source, s/he is welcome to apply.

It is just the same with my local board.  People are taking advantage of the language barrier in order to spam the forum.  The function "report to moderators" is usually used to report posts mostly in english language.  Psychologically, it is understandable because you will prefer not to report someone who has the same nationality with you, right?


I think he/she is encouraging to increase the merit distribution in the local boards.  By increasing the merit regulation and distribution in local boards, we can increase the quality posts and decrease the spam.  How about encourage members to apply as merit sources and focus on finding meritable posts on their local boards?

I don't have data to support this but I'm afraid that spams shifted to local boards for a few reasons
first, there will be less people checking and reporting because language barrier
second, it will easier to post in their own native languages and get merit from their own countrymen (nationalism)
third, less likely to get caught and banned by conducting plagiarism-by-translate in local boards

Actually every local board does not need a merit source, since not all local boards have a lot of activty. Mine local board or to be exact - thread , has little activity and does not need a sperate merit source.

Definitely the problem isn't synonymous to any local board nor the Dutch board,every section of this forum gets infiltrated with its own fair share of spam/low contents topic/reply
I actually think your board should be a whole lot better than the Altcoin discussion board

The new merit system spreads across to all sections of the forum. Except of course you're requesting for stricter restrictions as regards merit to rank up

Merit sources are specially needed for local board. Right now, I think it's enough for global (English). It's sad to say that we don't even have our own seperate section.

Also,
I am still not an established member.

and
The history should be quite long  

I think it's in the users hand to bring good quality posts in the local boards, In the past months i have been making some good quality posts in the Spanish boards, sometimes i start discussions just to try to get people more involved and even i make a giveaway with a post talking about brainwallets. So, not only sharing the knowledge, i'm doing that on a dynamic way.

Is easy for all to complain about the post quality and spam, and after chewing it a lot, I think the best thing to do is to fix things with our own hands, and give an example to the newbies about how it should be done.

So, if your local board is filled with spam, bring them a nice post, for sure you can do it.