Topic: We need Alan/etotheipi (Armory) as a fulltime-developer! Now! - page 3. (Read 3934 times)
September 12, 2013, 01:11:24 PM
talk to friedcat - dude needs to do something to keep AM shares up. he has a good reputation too perhaps AM will take it on
September 12, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Armory isn't really for non-tech savy people, it is extremely far from that if that is the vision. I haven't seen any of etothepi really talk about that as the vision for armory. Also armory is the most secure and has most features of any client I have seen, so I don't get how his time has not allowed him to still make it feature rich.
Either way - I don't think Alan would run out of new features, enhancements, reworks for a year, programming fulltime on Armory.
I believe he is time-limited. This is a result of being funds-limited, which is no surprise for a FOSS project. That's what I want to change. I'm not even discussing software/feature related goals yet, I trust Alan enough on that ;-)
Ente
September 12, 2013, 07:46:26 AM
Is it a bad thing that etothepi shares his time from a day job and armory? I view it as that less time, allows him to only take on the critical problem and top features. That is what makes armory the best I feel.
Are you saying "less time, less features, fixing only the most pressing problems" is better?
I feel different. The contrary, Bitcoin clients need to be more secure, more intuitive, with more features, and easier to use for less savy people. Not necessarily one and the same client, mind you ;-)
/edit: Maybe Henjix' SX is for you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/landmark-event-for-bitcoin-first-full-independent-wallet-291581
The more independent clients, the better!
Armory isn't really for non-tech savy people, it is extremely far from that if that is the vision. I haven't seen any of etothepi really talk about that as the vision for armory. Also armory is the most secure and has most features of any client I have seen, so I don't get how his time has not allowed him to still make it feature rich.
Last time I checked it runs on top of an existing Bitcoin installation. IT would be worth while to see a new implementation built from the ground up.
September 12, 2013, 06:10:03 AM
Maybe you could run a bounty campaign if you could come up with some specific features you would like to see happen. So people have a tangible idea whats being worked on? I like what your saying, but it's likely still too soon to have this be a full time project for him. When Bitcoin hits 10 billion or 100 billion I think you will see that it makes more sense then to be a full time project.
Either way, what I would really support for Armory is a better GUI. Something that looks more user friendly. Also, I would really support something that could let me do accounting with Armory.
Either way, what I would really support for Armory is a better GUI. Something that looks more user friendly. Also, I would really support something that could let me do accounting with Armory.
September 12, 2013, 04:37:17 AM
Is it a bad thing that etothepi shares his time from a day job and armory? I view it as that less time, allows him to only take on the critical problem and top features. That is what makes armory the best I feel.
Are you saying "less time, less features, fixing only the most pressing problems" is better?
I feel different. The contrary, Bitcoin clients need to be more secure, more intuitive, with more features, and easier to use for less savy people. Not necessarily one and the same client, mind you ;-)
/edit: Maybe Henjix' SX is for you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/landmark-event-for-bitcoin-first-full-independent-wallet-291581
The more independent clients, the better!
A) Don't have a bitcoin company sell Alan out. Gavin whined and got a paycheck, and so has Jeff, they whined enough and got paychecks. Alan never complaints about that and I respect him a lot more for it. He rather help the community than get a paycheck.
B) I agree charity could be good for him.
C) This will make less people use it and won't pay a lot since I don't believe 100,000's use it. That kinda what you need to make salary money.
D) Don't let Alan get spread too thin in that space. Iphone app isn't worth the time they will never allow it. And hardly anyone jailbreaks anymore from what I have seen. He does have plans to add trezor and I can't wait!
B) I agree charity could be good for him.
C) This will make less people use it and won't pay a lot since I don't believe 100,000's use it. That kinda what you need to make salary money.
D) Don't let Alan get spread too thin in that space. Iphone app isn't worth the time they will never allow it. And hardly anyone jailbreaks anymore from what I have seen. He does have plans to add trezor and I can't wait!
I don't have a good solution, and don't really like any of my suggestions neither. Maybe we can come up with something better?
Ente
September 12, 2013, 04:12:36 AM
Satoshi Forest glory
lol.Here's a thing to know about Pensacola Florida
It's swamp land.
Well, the community collected funds to pay for the mortgage all the way to 2014. On the same day it was announced. By reddit tips alone.
I do find that remarkably.
Ente
September 12, 2013, 04:01:10 AM
Satoshi Forest glory
lol.
Here's a thing to know about Pensacola Florida
It's swamp land.
September 12, 2013, 03:26:18 AM
count me in..
September 12, 2013, 03:13:24 AM
I feel it is not acceptable that Alan shares his valuable Armory-development-time with other things, like a money-earning daytimejob.
Bitcoin came a long way in the last years. We have a billion dollar economy now. We have foundations, proper companys, lobbying, paid developers, networking, mindboggling new projects every other day, everything is pointing up.
Armory is one of the most sophisticated and secure Bitcoin clients out there. With only one core developer. In his spare time, after work.
Come on, Bitcoin is no hobbyproject any more, and neither is Armory!
I want to 1) have Alan as a fulltime, paid Armory-developer, and 2) throw as many ressources at him as necessary, more developers come to mind here.
How to raise the funds for this?
a) There is kind of a sellout on Bitcoinqt-developers: Gavin at the Bitcoinfoundation, Jeff at BitPay. Probably more I don't remember. We could sell Alan to one of the bigger Bitcoincompanys (I can't believe he didn't get offers already)! That would be the most secure and least free way.
b) The community regularly raises huge amounts of funds for good causes. Bitcoin100 comes to mind, and the recent Satoshi Forest glory. This is of course highly volatile and not very tempting to quit a regular-paying job.
c) Pay-ware, ads-n-shit, payable modules or the like. I don't see the regular users financing a salary through this, but there will be high demand for secure, integrated, accountable software for companys. This might pay for a salary in one, two years.
d) Diversification: I see huge potential in a hardwarewallet which directly integrates into Armory. Both for users and companys. Throw an Android app, and (since there is no proper alternative!) an Iphone app in the mix. The community regularly throws mindboggling amounts of funds at the newest gadgets.
So, what can we do to help Alan out?
Alan, what do you think? Would you like to tell us a bit about the situation we are to "fix"? What would you need as minimum funds? How many months, years must be secured for you to happily quit an indefinite job?
I hope you, Alan, don't feel pushed or insulted on this. I want you to be paid for the awesome work you do. I want you to have more developingtime *and* more spare time. I want you to be not restrained by 'unimportant' things like money. Just like I wouldn't want Picasso to sell vegetables at the market to finance this painting thing he does in his spare time.
I decided to post this in /discussion instead of /Armory. This is an important topic for the whole community, for various reasons.
tl,dr:
How can we get Alan, the (only) core-dev of Bitcoinclient Armory, a full-time salary on this?
Ente
Bitcoin came a long way in the last years. We have a billion dollar economy now. We have foundations, proper companys, lobbying, paid developers, networking, mindboggling new projects every other day, everything is pointing up.
Armory is one of the most sophisticated and secure Bitcoin clients out there. With only one core developer. In his spare time, after work.
Come on, Bitcoin is no hobbyproject any more, and neither is Armory!
I want to 1) have Alan as a fulltime, paid Armory-developer, and 2) throw as many ressources at him as necessary, more developers come to mind here.
How to raise the funds for this?
a) There is kind of a sellout on Bitcoinqt-developers: Gavin at the Bitcoinfoundation, Jeff at BitPay. Probably more I don't remember. We could sell Alan to one of the bigger Bitcoincompanys (I can't believe he didn't get offers already)! That would be the most secure and least free way.
b) The community regularly raises huge amounts of funds for good causes. Bitcoin100 comes to mind, and the recent Satoshi Forest glory. This is of course highly volatile and not very tempting to quit a regular-paying job.
c) Pay-ware, ads-n-shit, payable modules or the like. I don't see the regular users financing a salary through this, but there will be high demand for secure, integrated, accountable software for companys. This might pay for a salary in one, two years.
d) Diversification: I see huge potential in a hardwarewallet which directly integrates into Armory. Both for users and companys. Throw an Android app, and (since there is no proper alternative!) an Iphone app in the mix. The community regularly throws mindboggling amounts of funds at the newest gadgets.
So, what can we do to help Alan out?
Alan, what do you think? Would you like to tell us a bit about the situation we are to "fix"? What would you need as minimum funds? How many months, years must be secured for you to happily quit an indefinite job?
I hope you, Alan, don't feel pushed or insulted on this. I want you to be paid for the awesome work you do. I want you to have more developingtime *and* more spare time. I want you to be not restrained by 'unimportant' things like money. Just like I wouldn't want Picasso to sell vegetables at the market to finance this painting thing he does in his spare time.
I decided to post this in /discussion instead of /Armory. This is an important topic for the whole community, for various reasons.
tl,dr:
How can we get Alan, the (only) core-dev of Bitcoinclient Armory, a full-time salary on this?
Ente
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