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The incentives to use bitcoin are already there and are the characteristics that make bitcoin such a great currency, awareness will rise as governments of the world step up in their nonsense of trying to know everything you do, including what you do with your money.

However all these supposed advantages does not represent anything significant for the common people. Unfortunately the bitcoin ecosystem is so in the hands of technicians and engineers that we think that all people must understand about advanced technologies to adopt bitcoin, and I think that is a regrettable mistake.
You are correct in a sense but while the average person right now might not think a lot for the characteristics of bitcoin it does not mean that at some point it will not become important in the future.
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An incentive? Let's think first about who will provide it. Who will pay for it? Who will organize it? The BTC foundation? Coinbase? Your family? All the users of this forum?


Exactly. So many threads about the same thing. Until somebody spends some casn nothing is going to ahppen.
You are both right that nobody in their right mind will spend his personal cash to advertise Bitcoin in a big manner. But we can all still do something. Start using it, not just holding. If you run a business then give a small discount for people paying in Bitcoin. If you run a Bitcoin company then you could do some advertisement for your business and this would also be a litte advertisement for Bitcoin.
The companies that actually use bitcoin are small companies, if we want for bitcoin to become something that everyone uses and become the best alternative for fiat we need big companies to step up and start using it, like eBay or Amazon to make it as a payment method so that it becomes more popular.
The question is why would big companies want that? It is extra work without benefits. I would not count on eBay, since they are in bed with PayPal. Amazon did not want to because Bitcoin was to insignificant if i remember correctly. We need to use alternatives like openBazaar and if they will become big enough this will not only be good for Bitcoin but also force other platforms to use it.
legendary
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An incentive? Let's think first about who will provide it. Who will pay for it? Who will organize it? The BTC foundation? Coinbase? Your family? All the users of this forum?


Exactly. So many threads about the same thing. Until somebody spends some casn nothing is going to ahppen.
You are both right that nobody in their right mind will spend his personal cash to advertise Bitcoin in a big manner. But we can all still do something. Start using it, not just holding. If you run a business then give a small discount for people paying in Bitcoin. If you run a Bitcoin company then you could do some advertisement for your business and this would also be a litte advertisement for Bitcoin.
The companies that actually use bitcoin are small companies, if we want for bitcoin to become something that everyone uses and become the best alternative for fiat we need big companies to step up and start using it, like eBay or Amazon to make it as a payment method so that it becomes more popular.
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To be educated on this field first that means a lot of advantage of course. Because you do learn from them much more you could use it to set up an earning solution for you and to your possible client you just have to educate them properly.
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Bitcoin has already a lot advantages against fiat, besides the huge potencial to get more value over time, sure some discounts can be made with bitcoin that with fiat couldnt be possible, but those is suposed to be the extra income the seller will get since he/she will save a good ammount at the fees it would pay to sell their products.
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Giving incentives from paying by bitcoins instead of cash, discounts and rebates to name a few. since even the first world country are always looking for extra savings on what they buy.
Because living there will require much more money compared to third world country and that's why so many people in first world country when moving out to the third world country will be instant rich as long they have savings in form of their own currencies therefore people need to be smart to keep their money efficiently without doing anything which is unnecessary and yeah I think that giving special discount for using bitcoin will be very effective but the problem is no one is going to do this unless someone who have some shop but also bitcoin geek.

Hmm, I see it is indeed as you say. That someone who already believe and have enough knowledge in the bitcoin will certainly get the richness in the near future and different from those who work all day. Because in the bitcoin we can still benefit by only storing a few bitcoin owned, and this cannot be found in other currencies. Bitcoin is indeed something will be the best investment place in the world and I think in the future will be much better from now on (population levels)
 
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Im not including third/second world because I think eventually people that don't have access to banks will naturally see Bitcoin as the solution, but as of right now, the average person in a first world country in a regular situation, if they learn about Bitcoin they will threat it as something that is worth holding long term, like gold, but not something that's worth paying groceries for with, or anything ordinary. I mean, why would anyone pay something you can buy with fiat already, without having to change your fiat to BTC, losing money in the conversion?

This is why we need an incentive, such as cheaper prices. Purse.io is the only reason I know of why I would want to pay with BTC. Other than that, I see no reason and I value my BTC too much to spend on "stuff".

Therefore it is established that we need to incentive people to use it.

If we can't find any ways to do so, Bitcoin will remain as a new form of electronic gold with special features, maybe until "Government Coin" is launched and millions of people start looking for alternatives (since with "Government Coin" it will mean physical cash, that is paper and metal coins, will be removed from circulation, this may be the point where Bitcoin goes to 100k+ per coin, since the entire underground economy will not simply stop existing, but it will find its way for alternatives, and Bitcoin will be the best alternative)

But until then, like I said before, I don't see real reasons of why the average joe is going to pay with BTC, specially when they don't get paid in BTC, because if you get paid directly in BTC you are more prone to spend it, since you don't need to do the stupid fiat->BTC->buy conversion.


I disagree with you there should be no incentives for using Bitcoins, Bitcoin is already gaining popularity and it's should be highlighted because it's decentralised, it's easier to use. It's owned by none and it's safe and secure what else incentives you want. Plus it's the risk prone to any outside events. Incentives is a bad idea and it should not be implemented at all.
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Giving incentives from paying by bitcoins instead of cash, discounts and rebates to name a few. since even the first world country are always looking for extra savings on what they buy.
Because living there will require much more money compared to third world country and that's why so many people in first world country when moving out to the third world country will be instant rich as long they have savings in form of their own currencies therefore people need to be smart to keep their money efficiently without doing anything which is unnecessary and yeah I think that giving special discount for using bitcoin will be very effective but the problem is no one is going to do this unless someone who have some shop but also bitcoin geek.
hero member
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I will want to disagree with op on the first page about the fact that since the second and third world countries are not in the Bank net then they will automatically see Bitcoin as an alternative. This I disagree, I am from a developing country and one the sectors that have grown at an increasing rate is the banking sector and this has take ages with various incentives put in place to get majority of the citizens in the Bank net, these they have been doing, at the same they are yet to finish not to talk of now bringing in a new currency to solve the solution... Where do we even start from?...
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Giving incentives from paying by bitcoins instead of cash, discounts and rebates to name a few. since even the first world country are always looking for extra savings on what they buy.
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Maybe the incentive will be the first world observing lesser worlds having an explosion in commerce due to crypto.

agreed,,
why waste efforts trying to convert 320m americans 64m brits. 700m europeans
when aiming for 1.2bill africans, 1.2bill indians, 4.5billian asians would hlp the world more. while having less resistance due to the lack of corporate control there

 Don't forget South Americans... Places like Venezuela (facing a crisis right know) are adopting Bitcoin to save purchasing power..
So why are they not mass adopting Bitcoin? Or are they and we are just not noticing? Bitcoin could be a good way of at least trying to escape a harsh inflation. I see why some poorer countries do not use Bitcoin for micro transactions because of the high fees, but what are the reasons for the rest?

i doubt that people in those countries (mostly third world developing countries with little resources and lack of interenet access) are really "adopting" bitcoin. there may be some increased activity in these countries because of their economy situation but in the end they don't have enough money to feed their family, so they are not really looking for big investments.
I really do not understand why people always think that poor and developing countries have a lack of internet access. The number of people with smartphones is bigger then the number of people wit access to clean water. You do not need to make a big investment in Bitcoin. Just exchange some of your local currency to Bitcoin and you might even make some money.
legendary
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I think it is a long way to go that people going for digital cryptocurrency .and we have no control no matter what ineciative we take , its upto in the hands of government that they will accept it or not .

I don't think that any government can officially accept Bitcoin.
It's because bitcoin is decentralized and can't be financially regulated by financial international institutions.
So, Bitcoin will always remain alternative to ''hard currency'' and another, great'' option for online payment but I don't think it will be possible to receive salary in bitcoin or pay loan in the bank with btc.
 
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I think it is a long way to go that people going for digital cryptocurrency .and we have no control no matter what ineciative we take , its upto in the hands of government that they will accept it or not .
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Maybe the incentive will be the first world observing lesser worlds having an explosion in commerce due to crypto.

agreed,,
why waste efforts trying to convert 320m americans 64m brits. 700m europeans
when aiming for 1.2bill africans, 1.2bill indians, 4.5billian asians would hlp the world more. while having less resistance due to the lack of corporate control there

 Don't forget South Americans... Places like Venezuela (facing a crisis right know) are adopting Bitcoin to save purchasing power..
So why are they not mass adopting Bitcoin? Or are they and we are just not noticing? Bitcoin could be a good way of at least trying to escape a harsh inflation. I see why some poorer countries do not use Bitcoin for micro transactions because of the high fees, but what are the reasons for the rest?

i doubt that people in those countries (mostly third world developing countries with little resources and lack of interenet access) are really "adopting" bitcoin. there may be some increased activity in these countries because of their economy situation but in the end they don't have enough money to feed their family, so they are not really looking for big investments.
sr. member
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Maybe the incentive will be the first world observing lesser worlds having an explosion in commerce due to crypto.

agreed,,
why waste efforts trying to convert 320m americans 64m brits. 700m europeans
when aiming for 1.2bill africans, 1.2bill indians, 4.5billian asians would hlp the world more. while having less resistance due to the lack of corporate control there

 Don't forget South Americans... Places like Venezuela (facing a crisis right know) are adopting Bitcoin to save purchasing power..
So why are they not mass adopting Bitcoin? Or are they and we are just not noticing? Bitcoin could be a good way of at least trying to escape a harsh inflation. I see why some poorer countries do not use Bitcoin for micro transactions because of the high fees, but what are the reasons for the rest?
sr. member
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Maybe the incentive will be the first world observing lesser worlds having an explosion in commerce due to crypto.

agreed,,
why waste efforts trying to convert 320m americans 64m brits. 700m europeans
when aiming for 1.2bill africans, 1.2bill indians, 4.5billian asians would hlp the world more. while having less resistance due to the lack of corporate control there

 Don't forget South Americans... Places like Venezuela (facing a crisis right know) are adopting Bitcoin to save purchasing power..
hero member
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I guess it too late for that even before that happens the government in the world has already launched the fiat virtual currency in full implementation. It is a big disappointing news after our hard work in promoting bitcoins to our friends and different groups and forums this news has appeared.

I was thinking of saving bitcoins for an expected increase in value but I guess I'll gonna convert them to cash sooner than expected. I just hope I am wrong.
legendary
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All I know is that I know nothing.
just start swarming the big services with email requests asking them to add bitcoin payment. for example starting asking Amazon and ebay to accept bitcoin, or any other big examples like these two.
then when they start receiving requests like this every day, they will add it eventually. how do you think steam finally gave in and accepted bitcoin after 5-6 years?
then the adoption will also follow.
legendary
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HELLO
wake up

advertising bitcoin is not the problem.

using bitcoin is.
it needs to be simplified!!
even hardware wallets need to be revamped. the issue is that it is too cumbersome, complicated and needs downloads/browser extensions or server access.. plus needing to copy and paste lengthy gobbledegook addresses and decimal numbers

but there is a solution, should someone want to do it.
SMART WATCHES/FITBIT wristbands



advantages
no software touches the device
private keys remain hidden
the device is wearable (new fashion craze=popular)
making a tx is as simple as shaking your wrist
no need to understand the mechanics of bitcoin to use it

just google "programmable smart watches with NFC" and you'll see the tech is available.


barclays are ahead of the game. first they are doing it with their native fiat payment method,
https://www.shop.bpay.co.uk/categories/buy-bpay/product/wristband/wristband


but barclays is knee's deep in hyperldger so next will be a hyperledger wristband, which will make hyperledger (bitcoins altcoin(banker) competitor) appealing to people that are not paranoid geeks
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I think we need to wake up, $15B marketcap can be bought easily by 50 millionaires from a second or even third world country if they decide not to spend much each one of them, if people and specially the richest in the world wanted to buy and hold bitcoins they would've done it already don't you think? we should face the facts some where, 99% of human kind will never truly understand and realize bitcoin and it's worth.
It will remain always and forever something for average people worldwide as each person eventually will hold a few coins and yes we'll see times when price hits $50,000 per coin maybe then general population see the true potentials of crypto.
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