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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 01, 2020, 01:21:42 AM

I totally disagree with this, we need to learn to live with stable prices and we do not need volatility to keep us going. If the only thing that makes people interested in bitcoin is the fact that it is a volatile currency and you could trade it to make more profit, that means you are not doing it right, you are not even interested in bitcoin itself, you are interested in making a profit in fiat and that is why you should not be here at all.

If there wasn't volatility most people wouldn't be here. And for many years to come it's still going to be the prime draw. I'm sure many people have been converted into true believers after that being the reason they arrived but let's not kid ourselves.

Without sleazy speculators it would be nowhere near where it is today and possibly nowhere at all.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

whos got solution for that? we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed
what you think ?

I assume that you are a beginner when it comes on trading.
@OP, I'm not a pro but let me say something to you. Trading isn't working the way you think it is.
The volatility of an asset depends on the whole market itself.
If you want those coins that has very high volatility, those are most probably are shitcoins with their pump and dump scheme.
But be careful of this because shitcoins are such a high risk trading investment.

More to say, we will NOT ALL get riched on crypto trading as per the fact that there are winners and losers (sometimes neutral) when we trade.

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Can we control "volatility"? Should the market always behaves and adjust on the way we want?

Just go with the flow and ride the current trend. Don't need to go technical about that concern.

Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed

The whole market can't be controlled. Different people have different approaches.

There's no solution to your concern honestly so I think it will remain on your head for a long period. Just let the market works by itself while you are watching on the progress.

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I totally disagree with this, we need to learn to live with stable prices and we do not need volatility to keep us going. If the only thing that makes people interested in bitcoin is the fact that it is a volatile currency and you could trade it to make more profit, that means you are not doing it right, you are not even interested in bitcoin itself, you are interested in making a profit in fiat and that is why you should not be here at all.

Bitcoin should be something you like even without making profit, obviously you shouldn't like it if you make losses because that is not a good feeling but if the price is stable and you are not losing money that doesn't mean just because you are not making a profit you should be away from it, just keep it going no matter what.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear

defi was allmost like this but its not enough i spoken with traders the spark and momemntum is missing on the markets.
we need more volatility more up and down like daily 1000% bear or bull is good i let run just 5 minutes and i have 100% profit i cash out but now the market is slow not enough volatility defi is slow to yfi was good and fast but why stopped? let make more fast defi projects.

whos got solution for that? we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed

what you think ?

Free advice, whenever your expectations do not match the reality that means your expectations are wrong and not reality, you want the market to pump and dump forever, that is impossible, it is known that traditional markets spend most of their time going sideways and that only show a trend during a small window of time and even the market of cryptocurrencies follows that same pattern, now you are wondering why this has stopped? Because people have woken up to the fact most of the coins claiming themselves to be DeFi coins are scams and the money has run out and as such you do not see the huge pumps you were used to, it seems the majority of investors have adjusted but you have not done so, why is that?

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2020, 05:35:48 PM

Market will not adjust to you, it's you that needs to adjust and see how the market moves and make money. Well this is possible for altcoin market specially shit coins that can be pump by signal group, but for bitcoin? Nah, hard to manipulate, yes there are whales in the bitcoin market but it's hard seeing the colluding with each other. So sorry to inform you that we don't have that kind of solution here.

Surely market will not going to adjust to be able to fit it for you. You must be the one who need to adjust and need to study the market before you complaint. And to be honest theres no such that kind of solution that youre looking for. If that was the market value of the tolen then we must have to deal with it none of us control the market. Maybe those whales can control the market but we as individual here cant do it.

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You sound crazy for a trader, I mean have you even think 1,000% daily would be a good image for Bitcoin in the long run? We have a lot of critics right now saying that Bitcoin is not appropriate to become money simply because it is too volatile that if businesses accept it and just hold it for a few minutes there is a chance that they'll be losing some profit and it is true. Yeah I know as a trader we like big price swings but honestly I don't think it is a good idea for Bitcoin as a currency and I don't think the newby traders will be liking this as well.

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200% growth in 6 months for Bitcoin is not enough volatility? I think we are okay now and we all know Bitcoin has the cycles of stability and then extreme volatility so do not worry, it is coming,,, just make sure that when it comes and dumps a lot you do not cry;)

When it is stable like now, time to accumulate!

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Gotta love crypto. Bored? Don't like the market any more?

Hey, make a new one.

A lot of the time nothing happens. There've been months of coma in the past across all markets. That's the norm, not the exception. If you do find an obscure corner where things are popping the chances are high it's someone looking to prey on that boredom so keep your guard up and your sense sharp.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear

defi was allmost like this but its not enough i spoken with traders the spark and momemntum is missing on the markets.
we need more volatility more up and down like daily 1000% bear or bull is good i let run just 5 minutes and i have 100% profit i cash out but now the market is slow not enough volatility defi is slow to yfi was good and fast but why stopped? let make more fast defi projects.

whos got solution for that?

LOL. Patience!

Markets range 80% of the time. It's only 20% of the time (if that) that you get crazy parabolic bull markets like 2013 or 2017. That's when you need to make your money. Bubbles don't come every day.

Defi already feels saturated. I get the feeling it won't be the "ICO" of the next bubble. Something else will be in the right place at the right time.

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It true that bigger losses or bigger profits depended on the trading skill your trading skill is high so possible bigger profits or an other side your trading skill is biggener so you can loss more and more, first dission to be make bigger loss and bigger profit or some loss and some profit everything depend very to person so exactly answare are not possible for the trading management.

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I don't think so. The market will do by itself. The more volatility will make people panic as soon as the price is down, not health for the market. If there is big news, many exchanges get hacked together, which will attract the volatility to up and down because people will be panic to hear that news. The market is going well now compared with the last year, and I guess we are on the right track to see the bull run soon. I think in these situations, we can still make a profit. As long as you can analyze the market, I am sure you will find the chance to buy low and sell high.

It's about how you can analyze the price movements because many coins move up and down. And that is our job to find a good time to enter the market. But besides that, we will see the pump and dump moment that will happen in the market.

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first of all what you are referring to, specially when it comes to scams such as DEFI or ICO, is not volatility or bear/bull. it is called pump and dumps.
secondly no trader, even the day traders wanting to make more profit, ever wants pump and dumps because they are unpredictable by nature and everyone loses money in those without exception. the "high risk" that you've already figured exists is exactly because of this fact. you can't expect a manipulation to always be profitable for you because at any moment things could go wrong for the manipulator or any other who participates in the pump and dump.

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The market is already volatile, and that's already enough to make profit and to lose money besides we cannot dictate the market and everybody to trade faster because we all have different strategies in trading, not at are day trader.

If you want to trade actively, then do it every minute and you must be ready for that. Trading is stressful, I don't like a much volatile market because I know I can't handle it considering that I'm working during weekdays. Anyway, I will still need to focus on my strategy and make money on this volatile market, the market will move on its own.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear
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what you think ?

I think you need more distrust than you already have.

Manipulating the market is what scares ordinary folk who would otherwise be tempted to dabble in the cryptosphere and use any crypto to trade or make purchases as Bitcoin is intended to be used.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear

whos got solution for that? we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed ...

We've got nothing, just let the market fluctuate by the use of the demand and supply. You can't do hype or even the pump and dump just to have a heavy volatile market, that's a pure manipulation to the market and it is good if the market will work organically that made by adoption of the community who are adopting crypto.

That's now how work crypto, you will not get instantly rich. In trading, there will be loss and there will be gain profit or let say, if there is a prey, there is a predator. That's how the market circulation process. Not all should be rich quickly.

Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 29, 2020, 06:33:14 PM

In talks of DeFi, when you do talk about its trend and volatility than its already anticipated because trends like these wont really last that long.

It could be a hype project if we are talking Defi price will too much have volatile. Like during ICO's project that most in a hype. But now they're gone.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM

we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear

defi was allmost like this but its not enough i spoken with traders the spark and momemntum is missing on the markets.
we need more volatility more up and down like daily 1000% bear or bull is good i let run just 5 minutes and i have 100% profit i cash out but now the market is slow not enough volatility defi is slow to yfi was good and fast but why stopped? let make more fast defi projects.

whos got solution for that? we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed

what you think ?

So you do like a bubble type of market? Sounds not appealing to me.

Of course this is a free market which its either can moved in slow or fast pace price movement.Lucky for you if you do able to extract out 100% in a short span of time but actually
this is really much more riskier.People who do had gambling like mind will sure love on this kind of pace but for people who do love on making risk as less as possible then
we would much prefer on a gradual and not like bubble type of market.

In talks of DeFi, when you do talk about its trend and volatility then its already anticipated because trends like these wont really last that long.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2020, 05:35:48 PM

Market will not adjust to you, it's you that needs to adjust and see how the market moves and make money. Well this is possible for altcoin market specially shit coins that can be pump by signal group, but for bitcoin? Nah, hard to manipulate, yes there are whales in the bitcoin market but it's hard seeing the colluding with each other. So sorry to inform you that we don't have that kind of solution here.

Finding such solutions like that won't work as expected through aggressiveness, and I think a mindset of a possible bullrun could never become an inspiration. Particularly shitcoins just made us frustrated by the time it gets worst, and never generate good increase as bearish market won't correct itself. Whales can use their money over creating hype, but not all of them can risk on altcoins.

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Market will not adjust to you, it's you that needs to adjust and see how the market moves and make money. Well this is possible for altcoin market specially shit coins that can be pump by signal group, but for bitcoin? Nah, hard to manipulate, yes there are whales in the bitcoin market but it's hard seeing the colluding with each other. So sorry to inform you that we don't have that kind of solution here.

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we need more volatility more bigger bull or bear

defi was allmost like this but its not enough i spoken with traders the spark and momemntum is missing on the markets.
we need more volatility more up and down like daily 1000% bear or bull is good i let run just 5 minutes and i have 100% profit i cash out but now the market is slow not enough volatility defi is slow to yfi was good and fast but why stopped? let make more fast defi projects.

whos got solution for that? we are all in crypto to get rich but if the market not working we can not get rich there is high risk so at least this risk need to be worthed

what you think ?

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