We need save Ross Ulbritch now! - page 2.

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Quote from: AGD on May 08, 2021, 01:28:09 AM

You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if

It is a version by the authorities to make him look like a monster and i still believe that because the way in which his trail went and the insane sentence he got. He could have got out if he came clean with a smaller sentence if he accepted his mistakes but he never choose to do so and so is the reason he is punished harshly and i think it was not a fair sentencing.

Yes he created a site and anyone who used the site got out with smaller sentencing and you still think it is a fair sentencing ?.

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The case, which sentenced Ross to life in prison, may be a little unfair.
If he had not presented himself as a victim in court, he might have had a chance to be released and the verdict changed.
But it is interesting to me that he did not have any victims in court. However, I do not think you have chosen the right place to publish this issue.

Regardless of the motive for the punishment he received, we honestly see that there is some kind of legal injustice being applied. someone trying to cover up the truth and it's plain to see. but speculation alone is not enough, and we don't have much evidence of the sentence he received. who will be responsible? everyone will fear the law that is not transparent.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 08, 2021, 07:23:11 AM

Double life sentence for Ross should be reduced but I doubt this will happen because current US administration is just a continuation of one that sentenced Ross.
I am not familiar with US law but I believe that after failed appeal only hope left for Ross is that US president pardons him, however I don't expect to see this from Biden.

Yea, that's quite the unfortunate truth. And knowing that people in general outside of bitcoin/crypto don't even know Ross(compared to the likes of Julian Assange and Edward Snowden which are known by a lot of people), the chances of a pardon is extremely slim.

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Quote from: mk4 on May 08, 2021, 05:36:18 AM

As far as I know this is pretty much the main problem with Ross Ulbricht's case, not necessarily the fact that he was imprisoned. I mean, actual killers and rapists have had far less prison time than Ulbricht's absurd double life + 40 yrs without parole sentence. His life sentence was as if he caused a new Holocaust.

I'm convinced that the drawn-out prison sentence was more of a message.

Anybody who followed the story about SilkRoad and Ross Ulbritch knows that it was not just one guy called Dread Pirate Roberts but it was more people behind that pseudonym and not just Ross.

I agree with you that administration wanted to make an example from Ross Ulbritch and send clear message to everyone who would dare to make open free marketplace like that again in future.
I also doubt in any proof claiming that he kingpin who was thinking of ordering some murders, and we know that some dirty agents got arrested in this case that makes everything dirty.

Double life sentence for Ross should be reduced but I doubt this will happen because current US administration is just a continuation of one that sentenced Ross.
I am not familiar with US law but I believe that after failed appeal only hope left for Ross is that US president pardons him, however I don't expect to see this from Biden.

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Quote from: AGD on May 08, 2021, 05:21:41 AM

He didn't deserve this long sentence though.

As far as I know this is pretty much the main problem with Ross Ulbricht's case, not necessarily the fact that he was imprisoned. I mean, actual killers and rapists have had far less prison time than Ulbricht's absurd double life + 40 yrs without parole sentence. His life sentence was as if he caused a new Holocaust.

I'm convinced that the drawn-out prison sentence was more of a message.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on May 08, 2021, 01:43:00 AM

Quote from: AGD on May 08, 2021, 01:28:09 AM

You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody.

I think that there is a strong possibility that one of those corrupt agents on the case framed him.

Sure they framed him. They even trapped him to do what he did and they got caught. Nevertheless he thought he was acting just like a kingpin of a drug empire would. He didn't deserve this long sentence though.

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Yeah dude, remember the time that he hired someone to try and kill the people that might cause him a problem. Not to mention that Silkroad's primary product at that time were drugs, this drugs that destroys a person. Him opening the way for drug traffickers to expand their customer doesn't really ring good in my ears.

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He's one of the examples why Satoshi's identity should continue to be kept private. Ross received a way harsher sentence than he should've received. I believe that the intel has looked in-depth for him and this case happened so that people would be scared of trying to go off-grid with Tor and Bitcoin.

I can't say he's innocent, of course. But something is definitely weird about his case and I think it's the intel who wanted to scare people off. We have to remember that Bitcoin and Tor give us together a way towards economical freedom we've never had before, and we know how bad of an image BTC had back before 2016-2017. They tried their best to stop it, they couldn't and now they're joining us because if you can't fight it, you have to join it.

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Quote from: AGD on May 08, 2021, 01:28:09 AM

You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody.

I think that there is a strong possibility that one of those corrupt agents on the case framed him.

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Have you read some of the stuff he writes about while locked up? Such a great mind wasted. There was obviously criminal stuff that happened however with all the shady stuff that came after with the powers that be; it should void everything.

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Quote from: equality7-2521 on May 07, 2021, 03:44:23 PM

Let us not forget him. Let us not forget the injustice done. Let us not forget, above all, the love of freedom!

https://freeross.org/

You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if

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love of freedom!

really fits.

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The case, which sentenced Ross to life in prison, may be a little unfair.
If he had not presented himself as a victim in court, he might have had a chance to be released and the verdict changed.
But it is interesting to me that he did not have any victims in court. However, I do not think you have chosen the right place to publish this issue.

It might not be unfair but I think he is finally doing good in the prison last time I checked about a story about him. I don't think that if he did otherwise, I think that it will end up for him the same because this is the biggest catch of FBI in cybercrime and they want to make it look like a real success.

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Let us not forget him. Let us not forget the injustice done. Let us not forget, above all, the love of freedom!

https://freeross.org/

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