Topic: Weird emails and pms about a paypal transaction I never made - page 2. (Read 1001 times)

This is slightly offtopic, but following your logic, if you loose your credit card on the street, and someone spends 10k on it, you shouldn't get the money back from your bank's insurance company, just because it was your fault in the first place?

Because this aspect is present in every single aspect of our lives. You only rarely pay direct costs. You usually pay a fraction of a total cost + margin for the company offering the service. This is true for paypal, but also any bank, or any insurance contract really. If your insurance is expensive, it is not because of the mess you make, but because of the mess of others.

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Scammers will use any tool available to them, if not PayPal then WU or whatever.

Defrauding PayPal with a feigned "chargeback" is NOT the right way to deal with this.

No it's ok, I understand and do appreciate the concern.
I do logon from hotel wifis when abroad, I don't have much choice if I wanna get online. This never happened though, that's the first time I get hacked.

I've been running antiviruses all day and I will format the whole laptop.

I'll also contact Theymos in a few days to check on the IP logs again as suggested.

I've never stated that. This is what I stated:

Is it?

Or maybe paypal will eventually enforce KYC on their accounts even under 2000€/$ like it was last time I used it.

This would actually avoid scammers using it.

It's a shitty thing to do though. The scammer most likely already cashed out so PayPal would have to cover it, which is one of the reasons for the exorbitant fees and ridiculous restrictions they put on legitimate users. I know most people here are not fans of big corporations but this scam is not PayPal's fault in any way. Personal responsibility FTW.

I'm also curious to know how kenzawak's account was breached. 

@kenzawak, did you use a laptop or a public computer to access your account while you were traveling?  Did you connect to an unsecured public wifi?  Did you download and install any software during that trip or just before?  Sorry if I'm being a bit nosy, but it's important to know how the account was compromised if you are to be certain it's now secure.



If it were me swimming in a sea of uncertainty I would eliminate any potential for doubt.  I'd boot that betty from a USB, shred the hard drive, nuke the partitions, low level format, and start with a fresh OS install.

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@iChanger,
You'll be able to get your money back from PayPal.  Friends and family payments make it a bit harder, but not impossible.  Be the squeaky wheel.

If I were you, I'd like to see my logs again in 7-10 days period, you know...to make sure there are no further unauthorized visits.

The alleged first IP log from Sweden has been reported multiple times with different violations:

https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/185.159.156.5

^^
Thank you !

Verified.

Then you should have known better ! I don't understand how you can get scammed like this if you are so good at it.How many red flags do you need before realizing something's up ?

-You sent money to Nigerian Paypal addresses. Three of them !
-You did it without any confirmation of the first transaction. Why didn't you wait for a tx id before sending money again ?
-You never ever (I emphasize on this) contacted me here before making those payments. I would have received notifications via email.
-You supposedly sent $1000 to a stranger for crying out loud, someone you know nothing about. Show me one post, just one where I'm involved in any kind of trade here !!!
-You say you can't get your money back from Paypal because you chose to send money in a specific way. How is that my problem ? Again you're the pro with your own website and such a great rep. MO means "modus operandi". It means here that I find all this pretty convenient. You chose to pay this way... every time apparently. You're the one chasing customers on this board, not me. Me I'm just the guy who a few hours ago had no idea what was gonna happen... and now I'm a scammer and I should send you money ?! Fuck that !
-Fix my security problems ? You have to fix your IQ problems ! What kind of moron are you for doing all the shit above ? You can only blame yourself here.

I'm in no way responsible for all this.
Your trade was made on Telegram (not here) with someone else, once again your problem, not mine.

For all I know you're the one who hacked my account.



Try to stay awake for 30 hours dealing with that kind of shit and see how that works out for you.

EDIT : I'd like you to show us some proof that you're trying your best to get your money back from Paypal. That shouldn't be too hard.

EDIT AGAIN : I reread your telegram screenshots. No way I'm paying for that level of stupidity. "I'm not home, I can't send you a screenshot". Seriously ?

Who said that I am newbie or noob?
You have to be more carefully (attentively) and read my thread twice to understand.
I am new on THIS forum, but on russian forums and exchange monitoring service "Bestchange" (some of you are sure using this service) I have excellent reputation.

Follow the links I posted in my exchange thread to read feedbacks, hint for you, in chrome you can translate feedbacks from russian to english.

You are not a really good detective like Sherlock Holmes, you try to find stupid excuses and facts (like same amount, same MO...what does MO mean?) on other side, but firstly you have to clear and fix your security problems. Or maybe there were / are no problems?)
It should work like it happened?

Sorry for my bad English, I hope that all users can understand what I mean.

I reported today PMs to administrator, now we have to wait for answer.

Ichanger, you definitely don't look like a newbie to me !

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1000-paypal-usd-btc-wmz-epayments-bonus-1-5140227

https://archive.fo/EQ4yE


Same amount, same MO...

iChanger,

Paypal is still a bank and you can still contact them to tell them about the fraud.

Likely the funds have been withdrawn already, but if you are lucky and the scammer was stupid enough, it has been withdrawn to his actual bank account.

In that case paypal WOULD be able to recover your funds, and/or to bann the paypal account involved unless they go through KYC.

In this situation you want to make me guilty for your mistake?) Bravo...
If you don't compensate, I am sure that you are also involved in this scam.

You can make it again and again with the newbies using your "trust" and "status", which doesn't matter how we can see it now, because you feel not responsible for scam.

In my eyes you are scammer and I think, that the forum administrators should force you to make the right decision, otherwise on this forum new users will be everytime scammed by "trusted" users like you.

What ?

You're the one who sent two payments, not one but two !!!
Why didn't you wait for any kind of confirmation before sending the second payment ?
I never ever traded here, why didn't you check that ? There is no trace of any trade in my trust feedback !
Basically, all pms that were supposedly sent from my account say "hi" and are two Nigerian email addresses. The rest was done on Telegram. Tell me where the verification is !
There are photos of me in my post history. Do I look Nigerian ?
You had all the means to verify. You could also have checked the Telegram username, mine is @kewak, it's already been posted here. You didn't even send me any PM here before sending the money ffs !!!

Sorry but there's no fucking way I'm sending you money. If I do, everybody will think they can do the same.

You made a mistake, not me.

Can you sign message from this address  0xbdc1e8a238572e8E282b791e993F571BF8640d83 ?

On side note, why people don't ask those thingies before they make deal? No trading history, no escrow...

I'm using my Mycelium wallet.

It is pretty nice, that you all are believing me and untagged me us scammer. But what is with my money?

It was verified via PM, we sent money like Family and Friends, so the payments can not be charged back.
You said, that you are DT1.
So you have more responsibility.
It is your fault, that your account was hacked.

So like DarkStar_ said in this situation you have to compensate us without discussion.

Thank you in advance.
In our life we often have to pay for mistakes.
You have to look on it like a lesson of more security.
If you don't pay, you will be able to let people scammed and say everytime, that you was hacked.

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Can't get your message verified on brainwallet. Can you maybe verify?

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify