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Topic: Welcome Bit VIP Coins! VIP Bitcoins & Crypto Collectables (Grand Opening!) - page 4. (Read 1595 times)

copper member
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₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Markinaz,

I appreciate your two cents.

Telling Lesbian Cow to “go moo elsewhere” was actually more just my sense of humor, but also to get my point across.
 
As for Mopar, I respect everything he says as well but Ive been clear with him and can apparently only take him in small doses.

I meant everything I said to Precious. He seemingly just wants to add chaos.

Its hard to balance “Remaining active and responsive” and at the same time ignore peoples negative comments. Trust me when I say, I'll get better at it.

I hope you can understand my perspective and recognize the effort I'm making to contribute positively to the community. Being criticized feels disheartening. If you choose not to support my items, that's your decision. However, publicly opposing my work feels like an act of sabotage. Dismissing those who are trying to create for the community isn't a constructive approach. I have never intended to harm anyone here, and I believe there’s no reason not to trust me. What’s happening with those who struggle to accept my efforts is a lack of understanding.
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My 2 cents as a forum member:

Telling Mopar he is getting annoying - That does not sit well with me.  Mopar is one of if not the most active members in this section.  Although I don't agree with everything he has stated, I truly value his opinion and again, this does not sit well.

Telling Lesbian cow to "go moo elsewhere"...  Well, I am going to follow your first rule:

1. Mental Well-being: Ignoring negative comments helps preserve my mental health and peace of mind.

These kind of comments don't sit well with me.  I was very interested in your product as they combine silver and Bitcoin, 2 of my favorite items.   You had some interesting designs, too many to begin with IMHO (I would have preferred you release one or 2 to get your name and product out there and create a demand to collect a full set.  This is too many for me to want to buy the full set without knowing more of your repuation).

However, I don't feel you are starting off on the best foot forward to join the community and I do NOT plan on buying any because of this.
copper member
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₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Precious Metap,

This is the last comment ill ever have for you.

Learn how to read.
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Satoshi loves sleazy bitcoin too - Ordinals
Mopar,,

Nothing can be purchased through the website yet. If people wish to reserve a coin they would have to contact me directly. The coins are in production. Information is being released everyday on my channels. Ive stated that the first release will come out in 3 - 6 months. I appreciate all you suggested but I will take reservations if people wish to get first dibs. Nothing irresponsible has happened nor will It, my reputation means something and so does this community. Please no more inferring the worst.

Shit keeps getting better.

No known key generation process

No shown keys to verify paper and ink

No coins in production but still posted with a price

This is a $200 presale for 3-6 months in the future…

Sorry asking questions is annoying lmao
copper member
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₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Lesbian Cow,

No offense but go moo elsewhere then. Before those innovators became innovators. They were also number 137. Try to have some perspectives other than your own and you'll maybe be able to answer your own question.
legendary
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Lesbian Cow,

The world does need innovation and I intent to bring that to the space by adding my own twist to things and bringing new ideas.

When I think innovators I think people like Nikola Tesla, The Wright Brothers, Mike Caldwell in this space....not forum user number 137 to put a private key on a physical coin and cover it with a hologram.

Why do your coins need private keys?  
copper member
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Nice site and very nice coins! Really like the designs, something different to what has
already been created and nice to see they are of limited quantities.

Almost nobody on the Collectibles board here will be buying those coins though.
Disregarding the price you have no history or trust built up here and as Mooar
has stated production methods of creating the private keys needs to be out
in the public domain because there has been too many scams and breaches
already. There are tried and tested ways of ken gen and there are key gen tools
which look good but are compromised.

Definitely you will need to offer DIY options fir the coins and let buyers do their
own key gen if the wish.

Good luck, looking forward to see where your project goes.

Thanks, Aoluain

I appreciate the compliments. I plan on gaining the trust of this community by being open, honest, transparent and of use. I have some peoples trust here just not every ones. Nor will I ever have every ones. Not even the most active people here do. I'm offering other options in the future but no plans for DIY options currently. My key generation method is going to be on my website shortly (next month or so). So you'll be able to verify its safety.
copper member
Activity: 169
Merit: 111
₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Lesbian Cow,

The world does need innovation and I intent to bring that to the space by adding my own twist to things and bringing new ideas.
copper member
Activity: 169
Merit: 111
₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Mopar,

I am public about who I am. I'm not hiding myself and just because you dont trust me doesn't mean that others here don’t. Those that agree with you hold your trust over mine. That's understandable. Like I've stated I've been around for 5 years. Again, Just because my trust isn't with you doesn't mean that it is not with others. You are also wrong to believe that everyone here is carrying the risk and I'm not carrying risk. Try to be mindful, I've been around. I've experienced most of the same things you have in the space. I just have a different attitude & approach towards things. This is getting to the point where you're annoying. I hope this wasn't your intention.
legendary
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Does the world need more loaded coins from an unknown/no trust maker?
legendary
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Mopar,,

Nothing can be purchased through the website yet. If people wish to reserve a coin they would have to contact me directly. The coins are in production. Information is being released everyday on my channels. Ive stated that the first release will come out in 3 - 6 months. I appreciate all you suggested but I will take reservations if people wish to get first dibs. Nothing irresponsible has happened nor will It, my reputation means something and so does this community. Please no more inferring the worst.


currently you have no reputation within this community. Everyone should infer the worst until the process is explained and vetted.

Hopefully, as time goes by though, you could earn a reputation but until you do, you have no risk, everyone here carries the risk.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1362
Nice site and very nice coins! Really like the designs, something different to what has
already been created and nice to see they are of limited quantities.

Almost nobody on the Collectibles board here will be buying those coins though.
Disregarding the price you have no history or trust built up here and as Mooar
has stated production methods of creating the private keys needs to be out
in the public domain because there has been too many scams and breaches
already. There are tried and tested ways of ken gen and there are key gen tools
which look good but are compromised.

Definitely you will need to offer DIY options fir the coins and let buyers do their
own key gen if the wish.

Good luck, looking forward to see where your project goes.
copper member
Activity: 169
Merit: 111
₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Mopar,,

Nothing can be purchased through the website yet. If people wish to reserve a coin they would have to contact me directly. The coins are in production. Information is being released everyday on my channels. Ive stated that the first release will come out in 3 - 6 months. I appreciate all you suggested but I will take reservations if people wish to get first dibs. Nothing irresponsible has happened nor will It, my reputation means something and so does this community. Please no more inferring the worst.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
Mopar,

I agree that things should be thorough and addressed. I've addressed your concerns and stated im working on them and that you'll be updated so stay tuned. Im not breaking all this down to each individual who asks me but instead putting it in one place (my website) for all to refer to so I dont have to explain myself 5000 times. I promise You'll get your wish and your answers but not directly at this moment in a back-and-forth conversation.

I really do appreciate your concerns and thank you. Rest assured I'm working very hard on making this something transparent and honest.

good to hear, I would also suggest suspending all sales of loaded coins until you do. It would be irresponsible to sell one coin even until you have addressed all points on your site and then point us to it once it is completed.
copper member
Activity: 169
Merit: 111
₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Mopar,

I agree that things should be thorough and addressed. I've addressed your concerns and stated im working on them and that you'll be updated so stay tuned. Im not breaking all this down to each individual who asks me but instead putting it in one place (my website) for all to refer to so I dont have to explain myself 5000 times. I promise You'll get your wish and your answers but not directly at this moment in a back-and-forth conversation.

I really do appreciate your concerns and thank you. Rest assured I'm working very hard on making this something transparent and honest.
sr. member
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as for going back and forth, it should be done, at least until every issue is addressed.

hopefully no one makes a mistake of purchasing any loaded coins until  you do post the key generation process. and then the process needs to be verified.

too many new makers claim to have an ironclad and safe process - then boom, coins get swept and funds stolen.


in the process of coin making steps 1 thru 10, you are skipping to step 10 without completing 1 thru 9

hopefully it all works out though.

Wholeheartedly agree!

GrtzTank
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
as for going back and forth, it should be done, at least until every issue is addressed.

hopefully no one makes a mistake of purchasing any loaded coins until  you do post the key generation process. and then the process needs to be verified.

too many new makers claim to have an ironclad and safe process - then boom, coins get swept and funds stolen.


in the process of coin making steps 1 thru 10, you are skipping to step 10 without completing 1 thru 9

hopefully it all works out though.
sr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 255
Great site!
Nice designs!
Welcome!

GrtzTank
copper member
Activity: 169
Merit: 111
₿IT VIP COINS CEO
Hey, Mopar,

I'm not going to keep going back and forth because I have much more work to due. I appreciate your interest and bringing attention to the subject. Much respect for you. Alot of things I can agree with you.  

My value proposition will be created and posted. It will break down why the price is what it is and why its actually reasonable. But its not for every ones budget. I'll have cheaper options soon. Also my key generation process will soon be stated on my securities page on my website, so stay tuned Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2254
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EIN: 82-3893490
Hey, Mopar.

Duly noted. It won't be happening again. Cheesy
 
The price for items will always be subject to change, especially if things change significantly. But for now the price is $200 which includes load. The options to buy unloaded is not yet available but will be. Remind you everything costs. $200 for a quality coin loaded with .001 Bitcoin isn't that big of an ask imo.

I dont think price is an issue for you.

I'll say if anyone wants to sell me a 10g .999 silver coin loaded with .001 Bitcoin right now for under $200 ill buy it. These coins always have a high premium.

I know quality is important and quantity can matter but I also know that a quality 1 oz coin, with custom quality hologram as well can be done for less than $100 a coin so $200 for a 1/3 oz coin is a bit high but your price includes load so that does soften it a little.

Have done a few Smiley

as for the price - that is an issue for me, I wont be getting any of them at that cost.

if a 10g coin is such a premium and carries a higher price than a 1 oz - why not just do a 1 oz ? save cost and price.

Again - all this is my view and do not let it dissuade you at all - it is always good to have new makers.

I would like to know more about your key  generation process. Selling funded coins is going to be hard with most new makers totally screwing up key generation lately.
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