Topic: well thats aren't far from the truth (Read 444 times)

OP believe it or not, you get nothing in the forum when you are not giving quality and informative content. Merit is not offered to members based on emotions but by what your posts delivers to the community.
If we all have to initiate your view of how merits should be apportioned then the forum would be filled with lazy bones making the forum look boring for knowledge seekers (if you know what I mean by that).
Merits isn't that hard to get in the forum is just you not doing the right thing to have worth it. And from the comments of other members about your previous posts it is not something of a good report, so you need to improve on yourself with your post quality. That's the only way you can get merits and grow as you so desire.

Why in any way will you ask or beg for merit? If such is done, the purpose of merit from quality post will be forfeited.


Constructive post is the only way to get merit here. And it is also advisable not to make post because you want to get merit. This is because you make be disappointed if merit isn't given to the post. Sometimes most post where you expect merit may not be merit because people may not view it in your perspective. Always make post because you want people to learn from you and you will be surprise at the rate in which merit will keep flowing in.

I went through your posts 25 (out of 31-> 6 deleted already) in order to see if there was something clearly meritable, but unfortunately came back with a couple of surprises instead:


This post is an extract from the below referenced article:
https://www.publish0x.com/coinsreporter/money-cant-buy-happiness-but-can-bitcoin-xqqnqvd
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20230817162313/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462427.msg62669104

This other post is derived from a post on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/15770r2/is_lightning_network_on_the_btc_blockchain/
Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230817163019/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461240.msg62610771

Now unless you are the author of both of those external sources (…), probably the first tip would be to go through the forum rules and avoid plagiarism altogether (see rule number 33 and the associated example further down the post) …

Okay I won't say that. Congratulations by the way

This is the reason why some newbies always stay in the same rank without merit; you must first learn how to post a quality post that will earn you merit; you cannot simply join a forum and expect people to start giving you merit; merit may be very difficult for you to obtain, but for some forum members, it will be simple because they are aware of the type of quality post they must make in order to receive merit. The way you sound about merit right now suggests that you are not only here to learn about cryptocurrency, but also to hunt for money. As a newbie, you are expected to be fully aware of the forum's rules and regulations.

Some of the more seasoned forum members won't find this funny because they'll assume you're not serious about joining; they'll assume you joined the community solely for financial gain, despite the fact that doing a signature is not the best thing to do. Instead, you should focus on creating high-quality posts because even signatures are concerned with these. Therefore, if you don't go and fulfil the requirements, you won't be deemed worthy.

Don't feel attack, they're just corrections so take it as what it is and work on yourself. We have many users that have earned their way to the top of the rank and you can also be one of them if you stop complaining and starts to work on your accounts. You're a newbie and that's the most loved rank as there are many people ready and willing to assist you with your growth in the forum provided you'll be willing to work and proof that you deserved to ranked up. If you're posting quality contributions, the merits will find you eventually because if you don't get merited directly as those with smerits comes in contact with your posts, others that find your post worthy could recommend them to merit sources and you get merited.


Lol, Sorry I laughed when I see this replies, I thought this way of thinking would have die off the forum by now because people have been saying this since I was a newbie but upto date it has been the other way around. The more you grow the lesser your chances of getting merited with the same level of quality you have always delivering previously. With higher ranks, it's presumed you have advance in your thinking therefore your quality should be advanced as well and the merits is likely to reduced then increase. Instead of the legendary ranks getting the merits it's the newbies that get all the merits.

I don’t think getting merit is difficult here, you haven’t done anything that's worth meriting, which is why you haven’t received any merit. If you make quality posts that people think are useful, they will merit you, and if you are desperate to get merit, don’t be surprised that you won’t be getting it, and you might end up going against the forum rules at the end, and you will be punished for that. Just post freely, and you will end up receiving merit.

At the time of replying this post, you already have 27 posts with zero merits, maybe know one have seen your post value able to them that’s why they haven’t merited you, so what I will recommend is for you to improve your post quality, do more research and am sure you will get the merit you are looking for.

Maybe if you had taken your time to read the requirements and the standard way of giving out merits, you won't make a suggestion of this kind to the community, this also shows that you have not read about the forum merit system well, though let me assume you're bringing a suggestion here, giving merit is strictly by quality post and not by quantity.


I believe your target of coming here is not to get merits, the merit system was introduced to curb the spammers from growing in rank.


You're yet to begin, haven't you seen a user profile with thousand of posts without any single merit? Not until you define what brought you here, you may not get merit or the opportunity to grow.


So spammers and scammers should also grow along with those that are serious with their contributions to the forum?

Thanks for the compliment, but that doesn't make me feel better than other users. Here I am also still in the learning stage, there are still many shortcomings that I need to learn to be a good forum user. Other users try to provide views from different sides, the different characters of each user need to be digested properly, even though the delivery method is different, their goals remain the same. Corrections and criticism need to be received positively, in fact their purpose is for your good and increase your knowledge about how to benefit.

Op, make difficulties a challenge, when you find it difficult to get merits, you have to motivate yourself even more so that you can get merits. Merit is not only for certain circles, Newbies can also get merit if they are able to produce quality posts.
You have to be jealous of other members who have managed to rank up after getting several merits, Jealous I mean in terms of the positive side, when other members can rank up to a higher rank, you should be able to too. Nothing is hard to get as long as you are willing to learn, increase your knowledge to help speed up your account rank up process.

I pity you OP with that tone and it seems like you have grudges about the merit system here. Being a newbie is really hard since many will doubt your account at first. Dont be jealous of those who got merits with their post or even response. Its not like they are asking for it. Too much expectation on your post would give you headache.  Just be normal like everybody else, and you would be suprise that the morr you wont get notice it merits will come as long as you did a good take away from different topics.

Even without having to do a POST some good replies on quality post also earn you merits, now to be in for merits you have to bring in something you know that can help newbies like you to learn, or should i say we all should learn from post with images that will educate faster on the post you will make and also it took make a long time to get here, so dont expect the worst or good at a shorter timeframe.

how can other people not comment negatively on you while you yourself make posts that indicate expecting other members to give you a little "merit"

if you want to learn then you won't like this, you should try to read how other senior members get "merit" because there is no special trick for that, as long as you provide quality posts, you will get merit from other members, believe me.

Instead of seeking merits, try making constructive posts and improve your knowledge about Bitcoin. This way, you'll get more stuffs to provide in this forums and also you'd provide assistance to those seeking help with such matters. Long story short, if you're looking to improve the quality of your posts to earn merits, focus on putting in the effort to make that happens.

If your goal is to rank up in this forum, consider reviewing your posts in comparison to those who consistently earn merits. You'll likely notice a differences in the quality of your posts for sure.

if the admin does that it most likely will encourage account farmers to spam nonstop just to achieve the number of posts to get the free merits. As you have said, you didn't know how it was before, one of the reasons why the admins implement the merit system is to stop account farmers from spamming and encourage members to put more effort into what they post to earn merits and be able to rank up. if they follow what you are suggesting this would just reverse what they try to eliminate/reduce when they implement the merit system.

To be honest, ranking up to Jr. Member and Member isn't even that hard, you need some activity and just a few posts to be merited and you're already there. I personally ranked up before the merit system so I can't really say anything (and I rarely even got merits) but I think the system is good as it is - you'll rank up if a lot of people appreciate your posts.

I would suggest learning more about Bitcoin and this forum for starters and try to format your post a little better (don't use new rows for every sentence and watch out for your spaces) - it just looks better when you read it and you have a higher chance that people will actually read or reply. And also focus on contributing to the forum or learning, not gaining merits.

Thank for your professional reply , unlike the other legendary users this one was great and helpful

It's a good idea but I don't think it needs to be implemented because every rule that has been made on the forum has succeeded in eradicating spammers by implementing a merit system. I can understand what you mean, it's hard to get merit doesn't mean you need to change the rules of the forum, when you can't read, don't blame the book, correct yourself why you can't read while other people can read fluently.
The forum already has several service threads available, you can apply to Thread [Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank and Thread [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed for merit assistance. Instead of asking for a revision of the forum rules, you can apply there, if your post is worthy, Merit Source will give you some merits that can help you get closer to being in the Member rank.

When a newbie talks about merit, chances are he's not getting any or not getting enough because he is trying hard to impress, why not focus on contributing and forget about getting merit, be someone who contributes or gets people to know you as an active poster and knowledgeable on some subject, not really expert but someone who can participate and contribute on the topic, members with merits are likely to give merits to newbies who show active participation on a discussion.

It doesn't mean that if you reach a designated number of posts or activities you will receive merit still people seeing the contributions and quality of your content that benefits to the community, keep exploring more here in the community and observe other members or even the prominent ones how they get a bunch amount of merit that case you can rank up too like the higher ranks. Are you urging to rank up immediately? it takes time to deal with it, takes time to learn so invest in knowledge. Good luck to your journey.