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Quote from: Karmakid on December 25, 2019, 09:24:21 AM

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Quote from: Golftech on December 23, 2019, 10:23:34 AM

Whale dive created huge panics to all weak holders they perfectly knew that with such actions a lots of people will follow and full their bags, same deal with how they creates artificial pumped, fomos will buy afraid that the train will leave them not knowing that at the very peak whales will dumped everything and sucked out their profits. Leaving more people in trapped or force to sell with huge losses.

Its all about how strong your nerves are when whole market is bleeding. Whales are called whales for some reasons and one is they never sell in panic nor lose hope, no matter how much worse conditions are. The problem with small fishes are that they only wanna jump in when market is high and don't wanna stay when its down. Thats why they always remain small fishes who are eaten by whales.

Indeed. The whales are so patient and they have a lot of dedication to the market that they know what is really going on. They have a lot of capital also and that is their edge since they can manipulate the market. I would suggest for the small traders like us to do not enter the market when it doesn't show any clear direction. Only trade or invest when the market has a proof of going up.

Many investors are always complaining about the whales but they got that position for a reason, while it is impossible for any normal trader to become a whale we can still profit from the market as long as we understand very clearly that the whales have the whole advantage when it comes to the market and it is not a good idea to antagonize them, if you make a trade and the market goes against it there is not reason to keep holding that position and we must get out immediately just in case the whales were planning a huge movement in that direction.

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Quote from: sovie on December 25, 2019, 02:57:21 AM

Quote from: Golftech on December 23, 2019, 10:23:34 AM

Whale dive created huge panics to all weak holders they perfectly knew that with such actions a lots of people will follow and full their bags, same deal with how they creates artificial pumped, fomos will buy afraid that the train will leave them not knowing that at the very peak whales will dumped everything and sucked out their profits. Leaving more people in trapped or force to sell with huge losses.

Its all about how strong your nerves are when whole market is bleeding. Whales are called whales for some reasons and one is they never sell in panic nor lose hope, no matter how much worse conditions are. The problem with small fishes are that they only wanna jump in when market is high and don't wanna stay when its down. Thats why they always remain small fishes who are eaten by whales.

Indeed. The whales are so patient and they have a lot of dedication to the market that they know what is really going on. They have a lot of capital also and that is their edge since they can manipulate the market. I would suggest for the small traders like us to do not enter the market when it doesn't show any clear direction. Only trade or invest when the market has a proof of going up.

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Quote from: Golftech on December 23, 2019, 10:23:34 AM

Whale dive created huge panics to all weak holders they perfectly knew that with such actions a lots of people will follow and full their bags, same deal with how they creates artificial pumped, fomos will buy afraid that the train will leave them not knowing that at the very peak whales will dumped everything and sucked out their profits. Leaving more people in trapped or force to sell with huge losses.

Its all about how strong your nerves are when whole market is bleeding. Whales are called whales for some reasons and one is they never sell in panic nor lose hope, no matter how much worse conditions are. The problem with small fishes are that they only wanna jump in when market is high and don't wanna stay when its down. Thats why they always remain small fishes who are eaten by whales.

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Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

Whale dive created huge panics to all weak holders they perfectly knew that with such actions a lots of people will follow and full their bags, same deal with how they creates artificial pumped, fomos will buy afraid that the train will leave them not knowing that at the very peak whales will dumped everything and sucked out their profits. Leaving more people in trapped or force to sell with huge losses.

Panic moment always become bad thing for investor and trader in bitcoin, they can't control their emotion by many people ask him for selling assets with lower price, although holding not give chance to higher price but need time for seeing our assets back with higher price again, maybe just needed little moment how to get profit back with bitcoin and altcoin.

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Quote from: RBF on December 23, 2019, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

Whale dive created huge panics to all weak holders they perfectly knew that with such actions a lots of people will follow and full their bags, same deal with how they creates artificial pumped, fomos will buy afraid that the train will leave them not knowing that at the very peak whales will dumped everything and sucked out their profits. Leaving more people in trapped or force to sell with huge losses.

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Quote from: Savemore on December 23, 2019, 08:48:28 AM

But even though they can control the market, we can still make profit by using different kind of strategies.

If you have the luck to be on their side of the trade, then sure, you can benefit from their pump and dump agendas, but people tend to be so greedy that even when the price pumps, they sell too late because they expect higher prices.

Getting in and out of a trade sounds easy, but most people struggle with that. You need to set certain targets for yourself at which you take profits.... for example, take profits at 5% when your trade was a profitable one. Don't wait longer than necessary.

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Quote from: Divinespark on December 23, 2019, 08:11:31 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 23, 2019, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

You are absolutely right, this market is completely manipulated by whales. Because the total market capitalization is too low compared to other financial markets so we can see the price of altcoin or BTC rise or fall a lot of times in a short time. We can't do anything more, we should hope that this market is more popular and market capitalization increases, so whales will be less likely to manipulate the market.

Why can't we do anything? If we only accept the manipulation and live on the whale's expectations, that really only makes us soon dismissed by these whales, remember who we are and what we can do in the market, we are traders and investors, our mission is to monitor the market and turn the market into our second home. Whales can manipulate, we can also use their manipulation becomes the way to make money, and the principle is very simple, sensitive and using the brain, we are the winner

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Quote from: Divinespark on December 23, 2019, 08:11:31 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 23, 2019, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

You are absolutely right, this market is completely manipulated by whales. Because the total market capitalization is too low compared to other financial markets so we can see the price of altcoin or BTC rise or fall a lot of times in a short time. We can't do anything more, we should hope that this market is more popular and market capitalization increases, so whales will be less likely to manipulate the market.

In every type of market there are people who posses power to manipulate the market. In cryptocurrency market, there are whales who have a large amount of portfolio. They can easily pump and dump a certain coin because of the large amount that they have. But even though they can control the market, we can still make profit by using different kind of strategies.

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Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

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Quote from: RBF on December 23, 2019, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

You are absolutely right, this market is completely manipulated by whales. Because the total market capitalization is too low compared to other financial markets so we can see the price of altcoin or BTC rise or fall a lot of times in a short time. We can't do anything more, we should hope that this market is more popular and market capitalization increases, so whales will be less likely to manipulate the market.

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Quote from: MWesterweele on December 19, 2019, 06:29:58 AM

Quote from: justdimin on December 17, 2019, 03:47:56 AM

Whales do have enough money to manipulate the market but these whales of bitcoin doesn't really need to be whales of the regular financial world. We are talking about new money here, people who became rich thanks to bitcoin only few years ago, they got in 10 years ago at earliest or even closer and now they are super rich thanks to bitcoin and they can make moves that nobody else can do.

Yeah, they could be getting help from other people who are old money but that doesn't mean that old money was involved and now doing whale moves all by themselves. People like Craig Wright do not act alone and they never will but no wall street guy got into bitcoin too early to make whale moves neither. They have the power and bitcoin early birds have the money so together they get richer and richer.

They can do whatever they wanted in the market since they are very capable enough they own a lot of money, they can easily get the market dump or pumps when they want to. The hard thing is we are affected by this too much , we should go with the flow that they are creating so we will not be left behind everything and it would not be a big loss for ourselves.

Whales have their markets in their hand. They are as you said capable of doing anything they want to the projects and the market over all. We shall never ever go against the trend of the market if we want to succeed because these whales can alter the prices of bitcoin easily so we can imagine their power. When they are dumping, we can simply hold onto bitcoin because whales definitely push it up soon.

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Quote from: RBF on December 23, 2019, 05:27:22 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on December 11, 2019, 12:26:29 AM

Quote from: RBF on December 10, 2019, 12:19:57 PM

You are absolutely right here! The crypto market always going under whales manipulation! Sometimes we think whales stopped when the price goes up, but they are truly good players, you never know about whales manipulate activity! And I think for their shitty activity, crypto is not getting its real value!

What do you mean Crypto is not getting its real value? Did the whales not manipulate prices with real values? I believe that Whale can manipulate prices in the market.

You did not get me perfectly, I was saying what you replied here. The crypto is manipulating by the whales, that's why the price goes highly ups and down all the time. Whales can dump the whole crypto market within an hour and create a panic to make people sell their tokens so the whale can fill their bags again.

That's the rule of life brother. If you are a whale, I think you will also make a way just to add your funds. Remember that the mentality of a business minded person will not be fair in terms of profits. They want to have more profits than normal worker and salary earner. Just like in trading, you will not let yourself lose a large amount just for the sake of noobs but you will get what you want to make.

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Quote from: justdimin on December 17, 2019, 03:47:56 AM

Whales do have enough money to manipulate the market but these whales of bitcoin doesn't really need to be whales of the regular financial world. We are talking about new money here, people who became rich thanks to bitcoin only few years ago, they got in 10 years ago at earliest or even closer and now they are super rich thanks to bitcoin and they can make moves that nobody else can do.

Yeah, they could be getting help from other people who are old money but that doesn't mean that old money was involved and now doing whale moves all by themselves. People like Craig Wright do not act alone and they never will but no wall street guy got into bitcoin too early to make whale moves neither. They have the power and bitcoin early birds have the money so together they get richer and richer.

They can do whatever they wanted in the market since they are very capable enough they own a lot of money, they can easily get the market dump or pumps when they want to. The hard thing is we are affected by this too much , we should go with the flow that they are creating so we will not be left behind everything and it would not be a big loss for ourselves.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 16, 2019, 09:36:04 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 23, 2019, 01:08:00 PM

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There are many cases similar to that, not only do they happen that way, in my personal experience I have realized that Bitcoin owners don't move them much, they just stay in Hodl, and what they place is an army of bots to move the market, there are many orders of 1 contract or 1usd, there are many, this is only possible through bots, however, trading for whales do it more safely, because when handling large volumes they can quickly program their movements and generate a major impact of the market, the leverage is very dangerous, especially 100x, they are the first liquidated, many times even in 10x they are liquidated, I believe that trading in Bitmex is feeling 100% adrenaline.

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If we are losing it means it’s our mistakes because we all have a brain but we need to use it properly. We should not give those whales any chance to play with our feeling and profit. Just don’t panic your saving you will be safe from whales if we will give them chances to earn from our money so they will surely take advantage of us.

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Quote from: bohr on December 17, 2019, 03:27:31 PM

Quote from: gabmen on December 13, 2019, 05:52:24 AM

Quote from: hv_ on December 13, 2019, 04:56:00 AM

Not all see the connections

but whales have entered into btc and other crypto very early

into their governance - protocol and eco-systems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dW549Ohkxo

It's not just that. You can take playing poker for example, Stack bullies have an easier time winning hands compared to others since they can bet bigger amounts, hence better returns. That's the advantage of trading or investing an amount you can afford to lose. No pressure. If they lose at a certain point, they can easily cover the loss and get it back since they have more than enough asset at their disposal. Sadly, that can't be said for normal people like us who'll have trouble shrugging off and recovering a big loss.

That is true not only in trading or gambling that is true in life as well, if someone has an advantage over other people then it is natural for that person to use that advantage over and over again, whales are using their huge amount of coins to their advantage and it is to be expected what you need to do is to trade in such a way that you do not allow the whales to take advantage of that, and using margin trading is playing right into their hands because they can liquidate your position very easily.

They 'use' their Money for a lot of things - mostly on Information gathering, but maybe also for illegal stuff

https://www.leaprate.com/cryptocurrency/bitcoin/bitcoin-tumbles-below-7000-as-a-new-massive-ponzi-scheme-emerges/

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Quote from: gabmen on December 13, 2019, 05:52:24 AM

Quote from: hv_ on December 13, 2019, 04:56:00 AM

Not all see the connections

but whales have entered into btc and other crypto very early

into their governance - protocol and eco-systems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dW549Ohkxo

It's not just that. You can take playing poker for example, Stack bullies have an easier time winning hands compared to others since they can bet bigger amounts, hence better returns. That's the advantage of trading or investing an amount you can afford to lose. No pressure. If they lose at a certain point, they can easily cover the loss and get it back since they have more than enough asset at their disposal. Sadly, that can't be said for normal people like us who'll have trouble shrugging off and recovering a big loss.

That is true not only in trading or gambling that is true in life as well, if someone has an advantage over other people then it is natural for that person to use that advantage over and over again, whales are using their huge amount of coins to their advantage and it is to be expected what you need to do is to trade in such a way that you do not allow the whales to take advantage of that, and using margin trading is playing right into their hands because they can liquidate your position very easily.

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Quote from: justdimin on December 17, 2019, 03:47:56 AM

Quote from: wajik-tempe on December 16, 2019, 09:10:52 AM

whales can't do anything if all the people are having a good trading strategy, placing a stop loss is always needed in crypto currency trading if we don't want to stuck in the whale's trap. Whales are getting richer because of the traders who eats their trap and FOMO in every condition but ended up loss or stuck and hold the loss coin for a long time.

Whales do have enough money to manipulate the market but these whales of bitcoin doesn't really need to be whales of the regular financial world. We are talking about new money here, people who became rich thanks to bitcoin only few years ago, they got in 10 years ago at earliest or even closer and now they are super rich thanks to bitcoin and they can make moves that nobody else can do.

Yeah, they could be getting help from other people who are old money but that doesn't mean that old money was involved and now doing whale moves all by themselves. People like Craig Wright do not act alone and they never will but no wall street guy got into bitcoin too early to make whale moves neither. They have the power and bitcoin early birds have the money so together they get richer and richer.

Yea sure, whales are the rich ones so they can play around with the small investors and use them to profit. But, you can still be lucky, and that's if you invest at the early time when there is a bear trend, as the price is going up you will be profiting.

Whales buy a huge amount of coins causing the price to surge, and they use that opportunity to profit, once they have gathered a lot of money they will then sell their coins, causing the price to plummet. That's why cryptocurrency is a risky job and anyone that wants to be part of this has to understand the risks that are involved in it, and when you want to buy you should as well make sure that the amount is what you can risk.

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Whales are whales because they bought bitcoin when everyone was laughing over it. Even today rather then buying bitcoin we are saying that time to buy bitcoin is over. We are losing because of our own mistake. We can secure our investment or cover losses if we buy bitcoin whenever its down.

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Quote from: Hamphser on December 16, 2019, 12:19:37 PM

Quote from: wajik-tempe on December 16, 2019, 09:10:52 AM

Quote from: Sadlife on December 16, 2019, 08:21:53 AM

That's why its necessary to have a good stop loss and exit plan strategy once the price hits the ATH or the price range that you planned on cashing out, you should just do it and dont let a big dump wash away the profits you've made cause by the whales who are hurrying to liquidate their profits.
Especially, when in this current date a big move is coming this is really interesting times.

Yeah whales can't do anything if all the people are having a good trading strategy, placing a stop loss is always needed in crypto currency trading if we don't want to stuck in the whale's trap. Whales are getting richer because of the traders who eats their trap and FOMO in every condition but ended up loss or stuck and hold the loss coin for a long time.

All people having a good trading strategy? Nah that won't happen though, only people with a good understanding in the market or having a good technical analysis will make a sure good profit. If you are not watching the market and is careless in trading then the possibility that whales would eat your investment is very high.

That is the reason why we should be focusing in enhancing our skills in technical analysis before risking any of our money in the real market. Whales have a lot of bullets to fire in the market and as an ordinary trader, you should be wise and smart in every moves that you will be making so you can make sure that there will be no waste from your limited bullets.

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Quote from: wajik-tempe on December 16, 2019, 09:10:52 AM

whales can't do anything if all the people are having a good trading strategy, placing a stop loss is always needed in crypto currency trading if we don't want to stuck in the whale's trap. Whales are getting richer because of the traders who eats their trap and FOMO in every condition but ended up loss or stuck and hold the loss coin for a long time.

Whales do have enough money to manipulate the market but these whales of bitcoin doesn't really need to be whales of the regular financial world. We are talking about new money here, people who became rich thanks to bitcoin only few years ago, they got in 10 years ago at earliest or even closer and now they are super rich thanks to bitcoin and they can make moves that nobody else can do.

Yeah, they could be getting help from other people who are old money but that doesn't mean that old money was involved and now doing whale moves all by themselves. People like Craig Wright do not act alone and they never will but no wall street guy got into bitcoin too early to make whale moves neither. They have the power and bitcoin early birds have the money so together they get richer and richer.

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