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Topic: What according to you is definition of ' Financial Freedom'? - page 2. (Read 7609 times)

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Hodl!
All but 2, need one on each eye for the ferryman... he's gone crypto now.
legendary
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Having enough to do what I desire and leave a smiling, satoshiless corpse.  Wink

It may be tough to spend the last satoshi dust in your wallet before you die.  Tongue
legendary
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ok i just went through some dictionaries and google searches of what people deem to be freedom. and now i will point out what others think

"freedom" is different than "free" in regards to a free market, free choice free expression. many seem to believe that a freedom is a privilege given by authority of a society.

if a freedom is truely meant to be free. then a government cannot take your freedom away from you (prison) thus freedom should be separated from the term 'being free' because governments CAN take your freedom

so the term financial freedom is in their eyes an act/policy/rule 'allowing' and giving permission for people to do certain things with their finance. where as a free market or 'free use of finance' has no authority or rule.

though i still prefer to think of financial freedom as having no permission
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vini, vedi, no vici.
It's about not having to submit personal info to be a part of a global market.


That seems like definition borne after Bitcoin revolution. 
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Having enough to do what I desire and leave a smiling, satoshiless corpse.  Wink
legendary
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Please, stop and think for a moment as this question is raised to brainstorm 'your' definition of "financial freedom" rather than accepting something actively propagated by organization and people with vested interest.

Freedom has nothing to do with law/crime.

LOL! Law is circumference  and what happends beyond that is crime and freedom forms core of that circle and you say it has nothing to do. Confused!

Wait.  Isn't government a group of people?  Isn't defining freedom as the centre of a circle of law simply "accepting something actively propogated by organization and people with vested interest."?
hero member
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no one can tell me or stop me from doing what the hell i like with bitcoins, thus bitcoins is financial freedom.

I expressly forbid you from sending any to the address in my sig  Tongue  Grin
legendary
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again people are missing the point entirely.

freedom=no permission

now put that description into all your analogies of true freedom and you will see what i mean.

rights are not a freedom.. rights are a reminder of SOME of your freedoms.
for instance the right to remain silent. or the right to free speach

it is not something the government has given you. if you want to stay silent, or talk then its your god damned own mouth...
you dont need other peoples permission to tell you what to do with YOUR mouth. you can talk or you can stay quiet.

just because the government remind you of what your biologically capable of doing, does not make them the authority over it.

freedom = no permission. its as simple as that

no one can tell me or stop me from doing what the hell i like with bitcoins, thus bitcoins is financial freedom.
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Freedom is a choice, but with choice comes responsibility.
That's why there are those who like watching movies and those who like playing games.

On the practical note, there is a project that can contribute greatly towards the freedom of humanity in the future. It's a completely open ISA called RISC-V from Berkeley and a series of open processor designs developed in India called Shakti. Google it. The barriers for entry into hardware design are getting lower, and I thought that bitcoiners might be interested.
legendary
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Freedom is the ability to do whatever the hell you want so long as it doesn't physically hurt or criminally deprive anyone else of wealth or property.

That's the socially responsible standard definition of freedom that applies to any area.

There's nothing to be added to this definition in case of financial freedom. Just be able to do what you want with your money without harassment from an authority. That's all.

ya.ya.yo!
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AltoCenter.com
It's about not having to submit personal info to be a part of a global market.
hero member
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vini, vedi, no vici.
Not having to choose cheaper food, having a car and house, going 2-3 times a year for at least 10 days somewhere, working 6 hours, 5 weekdays. Actually, technology made it already possible for everyone in the world - it's the banksters who fucked us up.

Bankster or greedy human? I see pharmaceuticals equally responsible as banker.
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vini, vedi, no vici.

Freedom is dream and hope, but when you get more freedom, others will have less freedom, unless the space and resource are unlimited

This is especially true for some psychological demand: If everyone want the freedom to dominate the world, then there will be wars everywhere  Grin Grin If everyone want to live without working then there will be no one working



Definition justifies your signature-Beyond Imagination. It was beautiful definition of Freedom as it helped me think on another tangent. so there is not absolute definition of freedom. Right?
legendary
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Monero - secure, private and untraceable currency.
Not having to choose cheaper food, having a car and house, going 2-3 times a year for at least 10 days somewhere, working 6 hours, 5 weekdays. Actually, technology made it already possible for everyone in the world - it's the banksters who fucked us up.
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"Be Excellent to each other"

all problems solved

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"Be Excellent to each other"

all problems solved
legendary
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Beyond Imagination

Freedom is dream and hope, but when you get more freedom, others will have less freedom, unless the space and resource are unlimited

This is especially true for some psychological demand: If everyone want the freedom to dominate the world, then there will be wars everywhere  Grin Grin If everyone want to live without working then there will be no one working

hero member
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vini, vedi, no vici.
I'm constantly thinking about and seems like I've a solution. Would like to discuss it but couldn't find appropriate place because open brain is vulnerable to distortion.

If you cannot even discuss it than just come back to us when you are confident enough to present your ideas.

"why don't you create indiacoin and have stakeholders from India adopt it instead?"

 I or my people or my country can't afford me to be right.

I was hoping that you were going to refute my "Tongue-in-cheek" comment about Indiacoin but it appears you are serious about it. I humbly ask of you to reflect upon your tribalism and nationalism and the harm these instincts create across humanity.

I'm confident enough from long time but what sense its makes. Why am I so much bothered about my country? Finally, I've started reflecting about issues like "nationalism" and "tribalism" with aim of manuring indifference lying somewhere within me.

Chuck debate and hail Bitcoin!
I'm gonna buy few in 2016. I couldn't resist "force of freedom" any more, In fact, I'm willing to give up my freedom now. Almost ready because I've realized core of problem- Education. I'm gonna focus there. 

hero member
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I'm constantly thinking about and seems like I've a solution. Would like to discuss it but couldn't find appropriate place because open brain is vulnerable to distortion.

If you cannot even discuss it than just come back to us when you are confident enough to present your ideas.

"why don't you create indiacoin and have stakeholders from India adopt it instead?"

 I or my people or my country can't afford me to be right.

I was hoping that you were going to refute my "Tongue-in-cheek" comment about Indiacoin but it appears you are serious about it. I humbly ask of you to reflect upon your tribalism and nationalism and the harm these instincts create across humanity.
hero member
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vini, vedi, no vici.
I started digging it..and now I ultimately think it as psywar waged by developed countries.

...why don't you create indiacoin and have stakeholders from India adopt it instead?



Creating Indiacoin is not a big deal. Securing network, making people adapt etc are challenges. How can I come up with better marketing than 10,000 coins for pizza? How can I develop different phases and propaganda? How can have resources? How can I have "networking agents"? How am I gonna resist network attack with 100's of pentahash ready to destroy my network.

Its impossible. But, I'm constantly thinking about and seems like I've a solution. Would like to discuss it but couldn't find appropriate place because open brain is vulnerable to distortion. Its okay if my theory, my assumptions all are wrong. I or my people or my country can't afford me to be right.


They say, "resistance is futile."

Marshall McLuhan, the orignal techie, has reminded us, "There is absolytely no inevitability as long as there is willingness to contemplate what is happening."

Just waiting for right place and people!
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