What are crypto casinos/dice houses not caring about multiple accounts.

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Quote from: Emitdama on December 11, 2019, 07:06:24 AM

Quote from: romero121 on December 02, 2019, 09:46:09 PM

I haven't used to it, but I've come across users reporting about withdrawal issues. By the time they were asked to go through the terms and conditions. Finally the gambling website support representative gives a conclusion you've got multiple accounts that's the reason for the withdrawal issue. Most of the time this issues go unsolved, maybe for experimental purpose one can have different number of accounts but it finally leads to some issues.

Also gambling houses should stop the users initially, when they come for withdrawal stating you've got multiple accounts doesn't look to be a fair thing.

As long as gamblers are allowed to make accounts within 2 minutes these type of accounts will be created and deployed for either faucet abuse or anything else but if the house actually want to stop such users then it's pretty easy because they can ban the ISP and just block all the accounts being made by that and ask for verification (not id but at least mobile verification) so that users can be caught.

It's the responsibility of the house to make the users feel insecure when creating multiple accounts and have a element of fear that they will be caught and if caught the deposit will also be under scrutiny.

There is some casino are not allowing those players to play if some of them have multiple account and that is the rule and regulation of the game. For me, there's no reason to not allowing those player that have a multiple account to join play because it only means they trusting yoir site. While to those have a multiple account find a site that allow you to play and play with discipline.

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Quote from: romero121 on December 02, 2019, 09:46:09 PM

I haven't used to it, but I've come across users reporting about withdrawal issues. By the time they were asked to go through the terms and conditions. Finally the gambling website support representative gives a conclusion you've got multiple accounts that's the reason for the withdrawal issue. Most of the time this issues go unsolved, maybe for experimental purpose one can have different number of accounts but it finally leads to some issues.

Also gambling houses should stop the users initially, when they come for withdrawal stating you've got multiple accounts doesn't look to be a fair thing.

As long as gamblers are allowed to make accounts within 2 minutes these type of accounts will be created and deployed for either faucet abuse or anything else but if the house actually want to stop such users then it's pretty easy because they can ban the ISP and just block all the accounts being made by that and ask for verification (not id but at least mobile verification) so that users can be caught.

It's the responsibility of the house to make the users feel insecure when creating multiple accounts and have a element of fear that they will be caught and if caught the deposit will also be under scrutiny.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

As part of my new gambling strategy development, I need to have at least 10 accounts to gamble with.

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges).

I like to get your opinion from your experiences like what are the crypto casinos which are allowing multiple accounts or who are all not bothering about accessing them through VPN. Also, which casino is more strict about multiple accounts. I plan to access my accounts with different IP around the globe (I mean I do not have plans to access all the accounts from same IP address).

All your inputs are highly appreciated. I checked few houses' TOS and FAQ but most casinos are not explicitly not mentioning about their stand against multiple accounts and accessing them through VPN.

I think the reason why crypto casinos are not caring about gambling users creating multiple account because no matter what happens every user accounts that they create they will still end up depositing a lot of money for them to be able to play in such crypto casino.

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I have made many multiple accounts on primedice when it was started but the intention was just to use 1 account as a bank and another to make bets and I never used these accounts for faucet or any promos.

I always felt making a new account and betting was more lucky for me so I often made new accounts and actually that time in chat moderators were absolutely fine with it since no promotion was being abused and hence everything was good but now a days I agree that since promotions are there, it's just better to make a single account and bet with it.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

As part of my new gambling strategy development, I need to have at least 10 accounts to gamble with.

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges)

I think as long as you don't go for free coins, you should be okay. It is the massive abuse of faucets and similar giveaways that make casinos demand that you use only one account, so they will likely turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to your "account farming" (if I can say so) as long as you play only with your own coins (to be clear, I don't endorse account farming in whatever form anywhere)

With that said, though, if your pack of accounts starts to bleed the casino bankroll dry (since this is what you seem to be after anyway), they will likely use this as a pretext to ban all your accounts and lock you out of your money even if multiple accounts are explicitly allowed in the casino's terms of use. People have reported some casinos demanding that players provide personal info when the latter wanted to withdraw their winnings

The bottom line is that don't let them become suspicious of your activity at all times (but you already know that)

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Quote from: dunfida on December 03, 2019, 03:55:14 PM

You can create as much as you can but expect that sooner or later you would be banned if the house would suspect you out.Its already been forbidden to have multiple
accounts specially if you are trying to abuse some bonuses or giveaways.Well, you can risk to play with lots of accounts though but you know on what things can possibly happen.
Most dice sites allow it but do take it on moderation or in the sense you arent abusing something.

Yes it's possible to keep creating accounts but once the house suspected you then the risk of your funds being freeze is highly expected, this kinds of situations happened before as account holders complained about their account being frozen and the reasons of the support is due to multiple accounts
you need to understand the risk and be ready to any consequence just in case.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

As part of my new gambling strategy development, I need to have at least 10 accounts to gamble with.

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges).

I like to get your opinion from your experiences like what are the crypto casinos which are allowing multiple accounts or who are all not bothering about accessing them through VPN. Also, which casino is more strict about multiple accounts. I plan to access my accounts with different IP around the globe (I mean I do not have plans to access all the accounts from same IP address).

All your inputs are highly appreciated. I checked few houses' TOS and FAQ but most casinos are not explicitly not mentioning about their stand against multiple accounts and accessing them through VPN.

In my own personal opinion, the reason why crypto casinos or other gambling sites doesn't cares about multiple accounts because when a new user registers or creates an account in a certain website he will still be forced to deposit his own cryptocurrency or own funds for them to play, so it will be a win win for both players and owners of a crypto casino.

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Quote from: sheenshane on December 03, 2019, 03:11:38 AM

If you want a fair game then, begin it with your self because usually online gambling casino's said that they had a provably fair game.

gamblers always doubt of provably fair system and they think that they are being cheated once they start loosing and that is also the reason why they create other accounts because they think that they can win on thier other account which is true to them but i think its only co incident that they win on thier other account because at some point they will still be able to experience loosing . some gamblers are contented on one account and wont create more because they already accept thier defeats easily .

Kind of superstitions when players believe that if they lose with the main account then they will get better result with the new account. Some people also thinks that gambling sites are monitoring their profit through accounts, so if their account is in good profit then they will think that their account are on the "target list" by the gambling site. Obviously it is very wrong mindset, especially if we are talking about provably fair site as the site wont have any chances to manipulate the results.

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Quote from: Ailmand on November 27, 2019, 03:26:53 AM

There might be no problem at first but once you have tried withdrawing your money your account might get frozen because most gambling problem indicates that multiple accounts are not allowed in their TOS. A lot of users have been complaining about this when they are withdrawing their winnings with or without multiple accounts in some cases. To be safe having different accounts in different platforms will be better.

I agree. Gambling sites are always outwitting their clients by making it looks like there is no problem at all by creating multiple accounts in their gambling platform, but once their players won big and started to withdraw their profits, the problem starts to arise and so on, it's like giving false hope while they are earning profits, so always be aware before doing such thing like having multiple accounts, it might backfire to you soon enough.

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You can create as much as you can but expect that sooner or later you would be banned if the house would suspect you out.Its already been forbidden to have multiple
accounts specially if you are trying to abuse some bonuses or giveaways.Well, you can risk to play with lots of accounts though but you know on what things can possibly happen.
Most dice sites allow it but do take it on moderation or in the sense you arent abusing something.

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We cannot expect gambling houses to ban the users who open multiple accounts once they create. They must have provisions to do that but to bypass government restrictions, most houses are supporting accessing them through VPN which makes finding confirmed multiple account too complex.

OP must try to have accounts in different casinos so that he could focus on his gambling activities. Otherwise, he may get stuck at any point of time regardless of how successful with his strategy.

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Quote from: sheenshane on December 03, 2019, 03:11:38 AM

If you want a fair game then, begin it with your self because usually online gambling casino's said that they had a provably fair game.

gamblers always doubt of provably fair system and they think that they are being cheated once they start loosing and that is also the reason why they create other accounts because they think that they can win on thier other account which is true to them but i think its only co incident that they win on thier other account because at some point they will still be able to experience loosing . some gamblers are contented on one account and wont create more because they already accept thier defeats easily .

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You can create a bunch of accounts if you want, but most online casinos did not allow users to create a multi-account and gamble using different accounts. Once you have been caught it might all your accounts get banned and blocked by them. It's useless once your money has been deposited will get freeze also. Online gambling platforms can detect your account must be on the same device and the same IP address though it is easy to bypass it is very risky once you have been caught.

If you want a fair game then, begin it with your self because usually online gambling casino's said that they had a provably fair game. Reading the FAQ and TOS will give you a lot of information which are dos and don'ts

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Quote from: romero121 on December 02, 2019, 09:46:09 PM

Also gambling houses should stop the users initially, when they come for withdrawal stating you've got multiple accounts doesn't look to be a fair thing.

It is fair in all sense. They cannot freeze your accounts when their ToS has no mention about multiple accounts or anything about abusing their system (usually bonus/give-away) using more than one account. So, they reserve the rights to lock a suspected account at any time they catch. Houses go freezing out mostly at the time of withdraw due to the obvious reason of their last check point where they lose all the control over a gambler.

In some other perspective, a gambler opens more than one account and may deposit or not but plays for some time and develop some gambling interest and may get eligible to withdraw but house catch them and lock all the accounts. Now, house helped a person to be a new gambler.

If that gambler deposit some money to gambling bankroll with one of their multiple account and plays and lose some portion of it, again houses welcome that until they opt for withdrawing. These are the reasons why all the houses are locking out at the point of withdrawing and until then allows gamblers to enjoy.

Quote from: panjul07 on December 02, 2019, 11:04:00 PM

Gamblers usually have two accounts only, 1 for betting and the other one as bank account.

As bank account? It is a news to me Cheesy

. Probably OP wants to have more number of bank accounts Grin

. Are you using any gambling houses as your web-wallet? Are you saving tx fees by doing so?

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges).

No reputed site allows multiple accounts. They will instantly ban your account. You can always outsmart them but formally, you can't. If they suspect you, they will probably do security checks on your account and VPN's wouldn't help.

Yolodice allows multiple accounts, Stake allows multiple accounts as well. They are both reputed sites in this gambling industry.
As long as users do not abuse anything, I do think multiple account is fine except on those sites that does not allow multiple accounts.
Still, I'm curious why he needs to have up to 10 accounts. Gamblers usually have two accounts only, 1 for betting and the other one as bank account.

Creating new accounts has privileges like free coins, and you do not lose any coins on your four to five games, that's the reason why the other people wants to create a more account. A practical person who wants to earn money easy make a way to get it. The factors of creating more accounts are for more chances of winning. If all of the accounts are in the same game, the player has a higher chance of winning and beating the opponents, but today it is hard to create multiple accounts because of too much strict security of the gambling system.

In other thread, when people discuss about superstition i said that maybe people create new fresh account so they can win in gambling site, i mean new account maybe have possibility to win easier than old account. And some people respond maybe it is just myth and i think it is right, gambling although make multi account for something like that, it is all about luck. But if want to make multi account to claim free promotion i don't think it is good idea because it is againts their rule maybe.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 02, 2019, 11:04:00 PM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on December 02, 2019, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges).

No reputed site allows multiple accounts. They will instantly ban your account. You can always outsmart them but formally, you can't. If they suspect you, they will probably do security checks on your account and VPN's wouldn't help.

Yolodice allows multiple accounts, Stake allows multiple accounts as well. They are both reputed sites in this gambling industry.
As long as users do not abuse anything, I do think multiple account is fine except on those sites that does not allow multiple accounts.
Still, I'm curious why he needs to have up to 10 accounts. Gamblers usually have two accounts only, 1 for betting and the other one as bank account.

Creating new accounts has privileges like free coins, and you do not lose any coins on your four to five games, that's the reason why the other people wants to create a more account. A practical person who wants to earn money easy make a way to get it. The factors of creating more accounts are for more chances of winning. If all of the accounts are in the same game, the player has a higher chance of winning and beating the opponents, but today it is hard to create multiple accounts because of too much strict security of the gambling system.

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Quote from: Ucy on December 02, 2019, 11:40:24 AM

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Quote from: Ucy on November 27, 2019, 04:47:29 AM

Even though I am not regular at casino things, I think multiple accounts would be allowed, as long as you are not using it to cheat the casinos. But if their rules say no to multiple accounts, then the rules have to be obeyed.

I don't see the essence of having multiple accounts in playing casinos, though, if you have many accounts, then you can earn more profits, but the case in casino isn't the same, you will not earn too much from multiple accounts in casino since the chances of winning will not increase if you have many accounts. You can have your funds stored in 1 account because if you have many, then, you need to fund all of it and it costs you more transaction fees.

I was thinking that the real reason for having multiple accounts is to bypass certain restrictions or limits, like betting with yourself, exceeding minimum bets etc.
Well, I don't really know why having multiple accounts is frowned at. I assumed it is necessary to prevent gamblers from abusing the system and earning more than is allowed.

what i believe is the abused in system and freebies is what the reason of the sites preventing users to have multiple accounts.

and i also believe that to be a fair player we must have single account not unless we have other plans.

but let us be contented using our account and just enjoy playing games.

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on December 02, 2019, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 27, 2019, 03:07:06 AM

10 accounts may be with 10 different casinos or with only one casino. More preciously if I have 10 accounts with same gambling house then it would be more helpful as the percentage of house edge will be same (otherwise I may need to fine tune my strategy to withstand against different house edges).

No reputed site allows multiple accounts. They will instantly ban your account. You can always outsmart them but formally, you can't. If they suspect you, they will probably do security checks on your account and VPN's wouldn't help.

Yolodice allows multiple accounts, Stake allows multiple accounts as well. They are both reputed sites in this gambling industry.
As long as users do not abuse anything, I do think multiple account is fine except on those sites that does not allow multiple accounts.
Still, I'm curious why he needs to have up to 10 accounts. Gamblers usually have two accounts only, 1 for betting and the other one as bank account.

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I haven't used to it, but I've come across users reporting about withdrawal issues. By the time they were asked to go through the terms and conditions. Finally the gambling website support representative gives a conclusion you've got multiple accounts that's the reason for the withdrawal issue. Most of the time this issues go unsolved, maybe for experimental purpose one can have different number of accounts but it finally leads to some issues.

Also gambling houses should stop the users initially, when they come for withdrawal stating you've got multiple accounts doesn't look to be a fair thing.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on November 27, 2019, 05:11:31 AM

Quote from: Ucy on November 27, 2019, 04:47:29 AM

Even though I am not regular at casino things, I think multiple accounts would be allowed, as long as you are not using it to cheat the casinos. But if their rules say no to multiple accounts, then the rules have to be obeyed.

I don't see the essence of having multiple accounts in playing casinos, though, if you have many accounts, then you can earn more profits, but the case in casino isn't the same, you will not earn too much from multiple accounts in casino since the chances of winning will not increase if you have many accounts. You can have your funds stored in 1 account because if you have many, then, you need to fund all of it and it costs you more transaction fees.

Perhpas you haven't tried it yet though. It's a good strategy to make multiple gambling site accounts in order for you to maximize the potential of making profit. If you're only using one account and the house edge isn't that favorable much to that account, then there is no something you can do but to stop. Meanwhile when you have alternative accounts, you can simply switch to another account and experience the different output that the house edge gives. This is simply a stratgey and there's nothing wrong if we don't use to believe if it's whether effrctive or not as we have different opinions.

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