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March 02, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
#27
Where do we see all these DT levels? I think users should really need to understand these stuff as well because leaving red trust seem acustom nowadays.  Grin how do you see which DT1 added DT2 user?

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full
I don't like to brag but this explanation of mine is pretty easy for average users to understand(part 2 somewhere below) here. Also, Lutpin'd hate me for using him as a guinea pig but done
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March 02, 2016, 08:48:05 AM
#26
Where do we see all these DT levels? I think users should really need to understand these stuff as well because leaving red trust seem acustom nowadays.  Grin how do you see which DT1 added DT2 user?

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 08:45:50 AM
#25
Where do we see all these DT levels? I think users should really need to understand these stuff as well because leaving red trust seem acustom nowadays.  Grin how do you see which DT1 added DT2 user?
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March 02, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
#24
I hate[1] it when you make me look up things.
-snip-
Erm hate to say it, but I'm right

Well, shall we make a test then? Since we are both on DT 2 same as Lutpin they should be removed (if Im correct) or not (if you are correct) if we both exclude them.

mexxer-2 is correct, two exclusions from the same level do not remove someone.
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March 02, 2016, 08:33:27 AM
#23
I hate[1] it when you make me look up things.
-snip-
Erm hate to say it, but I'm right
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March 02, 2016, 08:16:05 AM
#22
two from DT 1 can effectivly remove someone else from DT 1
Just fixing a small misconception, two users from DT 1 can only remove a user from DT 2 and below(taking into consideration that only one DT 1 user has the individual under their trust list)

DT 1 individuals can only be removed by theymos, i.e by deleting their "entry" from the trust list of DefaultTrust(which , is actually an account)

I hate[1] it when you make me look up things.

I made three improvements to the Trust system:

Firstly, there is now a neutral rating type. Neutral ratings don't affect a person's trust score at all. On a person's trust page, positive ratings are bold, neutral ratings are italic, and negative ratings are red bold-italic.

Secondly, it is now possible to exclude users in your trust list. Prefix a person's name with a tilde character (~) if you want to exclude them. If you exclude someone, then you will never see that person's ratings as trusted, even if the person is trusted by other people in your trust network.

Exclusions also travel through the trust network. If one person in your trust network trusts someone and another person excludes them, then whether or not they're seen as trusted for you is decided using these rules:
1. If someone at a lower depth (ie, closer to your trust list) disagrees with someone at a higher depth, then the person at the lowest depth wins. Due to this, no one can overrule anything you put in your trust list directly.
2. If multiple people at the same depth disagree, then the rating type that is most popular among these people wins. For example, say that you have three people in your trust list. If two of them trust someone and one of them excludes that person, then the person will not be excluded.
3. If an equal number of people at the same depth include and exclude a person, then the person will be included.

Finally, I added an easier-to-understand way of viewing your trust network to the trust settings page. The number in parentheses is the number of people in the preceding (lower) depth level who trust the person minus the number of people at the preceding depth level who exclude that person. This view contains slightly less information than the hierarchical view -- there's a link to the old view at the bottom of the trust settings page.

Also, the maximum trust depth is now 4 instead of 3, though it's probably still not a good idea to go above 2.

[1] not really
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March 02, 2016, 07:56:08 AM
#21
two from DT 1 can effectivly remove someone else from DT 1
Just fixing a small misconception, two users from DT 1 can only remove a user from DT 2 and below(taking into consideration that only one DT 1 user has the individual under their trust list)

DT 1 individuals can only be removed by theymos, i.e by deleting their "entry" from the trust list of DefaultTrust(which , is actually an account)
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March 02, 2016, 07:45:18 AM
#20

I give people, that buy an account with positive trust, a negative one to offset their (illegitimately) gained trustscore.
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March 02, 2016, 07:33:59 AM
#19
Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.

Is that so?

Whether or not you like to admit it, but the trust system has no rules. The question is usually whether or not someone will consider your ratings as trusted or not. Ratings like (I will quote my own trust page here)

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That is not the intent behind the trust system.

What the trust system should be used for is based on those that are considered trusted within the system. Mainly those on level 1 as they select those on level 2 and those are considered trusted by the majority of users (as they dont change their list). Any list anyone here can come up with, will most likely be only a rough estimate or overview based on the past.
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March 02, 2016, 12:48:49 AM
#18
Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
Lets see how accurate your list is....
1. broke a forum rule,
They usually ban you for this. That or give a warning that could eventually lead to a ban.
2. attempting to scam,
Yup.
3. have scammed,
This is exactly what negative trust ratings are for
4. begging,
Nope. This falls under "breaking a forum rule"
5. being a troll
This really depends on how they are trolling. If they are trolling my making/accepting offers they have zero intent on keeping then they are effectively a scammer, mostly otherwise, no
6. send pm solicitations,
This really depends on the unique circumstances. If the circumstances are somewhat shady then yes, otherwise no
7. spams with or without sig campaign
lol, no
8. sold account
no
9. etc etc etc
Huh but no
There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members
That is not the intent behind the trust system.
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March 01, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
#17
i just want a mod to come in
Who is a Mod to say ? Trust is not moderated anyways.
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March 01, 2016, 06:43:14 PM
#16
Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.
Ok thank you,  that was my position about OP's neutral feedback on me.  I think it's completely unwarranted.
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March 01, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
#15
Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Thats just falling right in line with the mandate. Why would we use trolling as a way to censor opposing views?
Often it comes off as trolling because the discussion is heated and usually will simmer down. If we add trolling we have just
made them that much more of a monster.
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March 01, 2016, 06:31:48 PM
#14
Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?

Tell me this, is + trust given for well-thought out economy posts or helpful free tools posted? No. You can have extremely high quality posts yet not get + trust. So it makes zero sense to give out - trust when not meeting the trust-givers standards.
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March 01, 2016, 06:30:40 PM
#13
Abuse of power is only if you let them have power over you. As the days go on their negative comments become less and less meaningful.
The forum is slowly filling up with people that have a issue with this tactic of a few members and without being in the trust system themselves,would have little sway. But sadly some one here felt they needed to be empowered to accuse and run over any one they chose is unsuited to the NewWorldOrder or whatever it is called now.

I like how they follow each other up to make the stance that much more valid. Read through the lines folks,these people are using the system to
alter the forum. Ever here that story about first they came for the Jews! This is pretty much whats going on and all you have to do is look through the forum to see they are spreading the issue to other aspects.
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March 01, 2016, 06:25:13 PM
#12
Ok so how's about neutral feedback for trolling or "low quality posts"?
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 06:24:10 PM
#11

Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.
there actually are rules on the trust page, maybe you can go there and read it and come back
Those are not rules, those are descriptions.
The community can use the Trust System anyway they deem to be appropriate.

The Trust System is mostly controlled and maintained by the members on the Default Trust List.
If you view their comments on others accounts, I've sure they aren't following "the rules" you cite.
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March 01, 2016, 06:19:43 PM
#10
I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.



Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.
there actually are rules on the trust page, maybe you can go there and read it and come back
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 06:18:49 PM
#9

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.



Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.

Lol! You would get negative trust for being a troll, Dorito.
There are no rules for giving trust.

Please provide link to "official forum rules" as to providing trust.
sr. member
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March 01, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
#8
I noticed but the act is still being practiced by other members, i just want a mod to come in and clearly say what negative trust should be used for so this thread can be used as a reference

There are no real rules as to this issue.
The Trust System is not regulated by the Mods.

There is nothing you can do about invalid negative trust,
other than request the person who gave it to you, to reconsider.

Chances are if you received negative trust, it falls under one of the following:
1. broke a forum rule,
2. attempting to scam,
3. have scammed,
4. begging,
5. being a troll
6. send pm solicitations,
7. spams with or without sig campaign
8. sold account
9. etc etc etc

There are may reasons why to give negative trust, outside of scamming members.
There are no rules, that I'm aware of.



Hello, this list is incorrect. Sorry, try again. That is not what red trust is meant for according to the official forum rules.

Being a troll or begging is clearly not what red trust is meant for so please sir do your research before attempting to give a proper reply.
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