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Topic: What are the negativities of Merit system[UPDATED][09/08/2018] - page 3. (Read 1712 times)

member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
Here are the negative points I think of the Merit system:

1. The system is somewhat biased as for higher ranks they don't need to work hard already for their ranks, compared to lower ranks.
2. The system is somewhat not fair as a person with a lot of merits can award an instant 20 or more merits to one post. There are a lot of people who needs those merits which are also posting good posts, so rather than giving instant 20 merits to one person why not spread it to others. There should be a limit of merits you can receive from 1 source in a day. Let say 1 merit from 1 source per day should be fair enough.
3. The system encourages selling of merits in exchange for services or cash.
4. The number of merits required for a level up is just outrageous and not very attainable. Due to the number of merits a person need to have before a level up, this should be updated. Maybe increments of 20 merits per rank movement would be fine as long as they will also implement a cap of merits you can only receive in a person per day or maybe per week.
Not totally agree with your points. However, I think Theymos should limit the maximum number of merits for each thread. The range of merits received/ donated might be somewhere between 1 to 5 (measurement scale). For example:
1. for good quality post
2. for somewhat better than good quality post
3. for high-qualitied post.
4. for somewhat better than high-qualitied post.
5. for extremely high-qualitied post.

This sort of merit measurement scale will better control sell/buying sMerits between users.
member
Activity: 327
Merit: 11
Well, yeah. You can't expect people to be seeing every single post, and this is really only a problem if you really want to rankup, but basically post spam, and in an attempt to do so, make a single high quality post. People who consistently post quality should be rewarded.
Are posts that receive more merits displayed on top? If so, there can be some benefits. Good quality posts can be seen easily. Accounts gaining merits unreasonably can be seen easily too.
full member
Activity: 449
Merit: 100
1.I think the lower ranked members is never going to rank up to legendary.
i agree its hard now to rank up when newbies are not famous because they will stock in jr member. but they need to be friendly so he/she will receive merits.
newbie
Activity: 153
Merit: 0
I think the biggest negative impact is that many people can't upgrade!
The phenomenon of sale Merit is sure to appear!
member
Activity: 126
Merit: 21
Here are the negative points I think of the Merit system:

1. The system is somewhat biased as for higher ranks they don't need to work hard already for their ranks, compared to lower ranks.
2. The system is somewhat not fair as a person with a lot of merits can award an instant 20 or more merits to one post. There are a lot of people who needs those merits which are also posting good posts, so rather than giving instant 20 merits to one person why not spread it to others. There should be a limit of merits you can receive from 1 source in a day. Let say 1 merit from 1 source per day should be fair enough.
3. The system encourages selling of merits in exchange for services or cash.
4. The number of merits required for a level up is just outrageous and not very attainable. Due to the number of merits a person need to have before a level up, this should be updated. Maybe increments of 20 merits per rank movement would be fine as long as they will also implement a cap of merits you can only receive in a person per day or maybe per week.
member
Activity: 266
Merit: 27
I think people also overlook the fact that individuals who already have a decent Rank are more likely to receive merits, as they look more appealing (signatures, avatars, golden coins etc.).

And who the fuck would even merit me? I don't chill in an armchair with a cup of tea next to me, participating in elevated discussions on this forum. I translate whatever ann threads and whitepapers I can. The only reason I left my habitat was to see what the hell was this update and to my surprise, it doesn't really help me.

Unfortunately people label me based on my Rank. They don't even look at my previous work, they just cut me off the list. This Merit system gives me reasons to be concerned.


Nobody is being labeled by rank. Welcome to the new bitcointalk, where the quality of your posts matter more. I didn't look at your previous work , but i'm sure it's great. good post! Cheesy
Unfortunately bounty managers seem to completely ignore new entries. What baffles me even more is that higher ranks than me provide subpar translations (no diacritics, use Paint to edit photos and so on) but they still receive a big portion of the contracts.
And yeah you are right, my work is great, my autism makes me edit and translate everything to near-perfection (sometimes turns bad when push this too much haha)
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
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That’s what happens when DT users leave neg trust and ignore and block the users so you can even state your case
Not going to comment on your case specifically, but putting people on ignore after negging them is a sanity-keeping policy, because if you've left someone a neg for just reasons there isn't anything to discuss.  It turns into an excuse factory and a time-wasting exchange.  I've done this myself, because some people will absolutely flood your inbox with sniveling nonsense and then try to call down the wrath of allah or whatever sky fairy they believe in on you. 

Start up a new thread in meta or something, but you're probably stuck with the feedback you got, unfortunately.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
I think people also overlook the fact that individuals who already have a decent Rank are more likely to receive merits, as they look more appealing (signatures, avatars, golden coins etc.).

And who the fuck would even merit me? I don't chill in an armchair with a cup of tea next to me, participating in elevated discussions on this forum. I translate whatever ann threads and whitepapers I can. The only reason I left my habitat was to see what the hell was this update and to my surprise, it doesn't really help me.

Unfortunately people label me based on my Rank. They don't even look at my previous work, they just cut me off the list. This Merit system gives me reasons to be concerned.


Nobody is being labeled by rank. Welcome to the new bitcointalk, where the quality of your posts matter more. I didn't look at your previous work , but i'm sure it's great. good post! Cheesy
member
Activity: 266
Merit: 27
I think people also overlook the fact that individuals who already have a decent Rank are more likely to receive merits, as they look more appealing (signatures, avatars, golden coins etc.).

And who the fuck would even merit me? I don't chill in an armchair with a cup of tea next to me, participating in elevated discussions on this forum. I translate whatever ann threads and whitepapers I can. The only reason I left my habitat was to see what the hell was this update and to my surprise, it doesn't really help me.

Unfortunately people label me based on my Rank. They don't even look at my previous work, they just cut me off the list. This Merit system gives me reasons to be concerned.
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legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
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sMerit is Limited and it will be run out of Stack soon.
No, it is not. Read about the actual system before you shitpost. Also, it's not spelled "Stack".

Lauda, can you unblock my PM’s please.

And can someone inbox Lauda for me, I think I’m on ignore.

As you should.  This post is totally off topic!   Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
sMerit is Limited and it will be run out of Stack soon.
No, it is not. Read about the actual system before you shitpost. Also, it's not spelled "Stack".

merit's are worthless

Lauda and his group are already abusing merit points by giving themself merits in their own circle
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
sMerit is Limited and it will be run out of Stack soon.
No, it is not. Read about the actual system before you shitpost. Also, it's not spelled "Stack".
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 101
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in future no user will be active on Giving their sMerit.
because if they are now actively using their  sMerit.
as you can see every Use of sMerits will become half to the receiver of Merit.
sMerit is Limited and it will be run out of Stack soon.
and if only Legendary earns the sMerit/Merits what will Happen on the
 limited circulation of sMerit?Huh
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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5.Random members going to be tagged if someone exchanged merits,but it is not going to happen if a DT member do.(too fair)

Lauda is a Legendary Member, they do not need any more merits to "Level Up" so if they want to swap merits all day long with another member let them be!

if 2 JR members were up to similar antics then it is a totally different story - its not apples for apples buddy
member
Activity: 630
Merit: 24
Let's look at this issue more widely...It doesn't have a great value what rank do you have,The most important is how much you are educated.By this system experienced people will start to share their knowledge better,More importantly,that there will be posibility to have a healthy convesrations,becuase we really need it,People post and they don't remember about this because they are posting only for ranks and not for help.The main reason why this forum was created is to help each other and share our knowledge,So I think this system will be one of the precondition to achieve this goal and its not only for shitposters to improve their quality.
member
Activity: 546
Merit: 32
5.Random members going to be tagged if someone exchanged merits,but it is not going to happen if a DT member do.(too fair)
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
If someone said DT will be fair while distributing the merits.I will say no,
DT has nothing to do with being a source of merit.

Here I have a reference for that,Lauda and aTriz most well know members of our forum exchanging merits between them.
Meaning, I'm not allowed to send merit to someone who sent me merit?

If you are saying that posts deserves 50 and 20 merits.I am totally against you.
Of course they do. Each post that I send merit to deserves the amount of merit that I gave it to them. It is up to me how much merit I give and where I give it to.

I am interested to see who is going to neg them for this untrustworthy attitude from a DT memebr.
There is nothing untrustworthy going on. Stop being butthurt because we nailed your alt accounts.

Hi all!
Yesterday just fell the victim of this kinda injustice. Changed with my friends some Merits and got red trust from DT member (affiliated with Lauda & Co)
How do you think, are there any chances for us to be retrieved?
That has nothing to do with this thread.

I would hope that you all are kidding,Right?
He's an escrow scammer, don't expect anything good out of him.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 11
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2.Soon there maybe a merit farming.
This is very possible to happen and also some guys here will sale their merit to earn money.
This is actually unlikely, at least over the long run.

Accounts do not have any way to automatically gain merit points unless they are a merit source. Also you can only give out 1/2 the merit points you get.

I am a merit source...how much per merit you guys offering?  Tongue Tongue  Time will tell how this makes a difference for the spammers. My guess is that it slows the farmers down a lot and that will help as the copy/paste guys gets bans...
I don't think it would be appropriate for a merit source to sell merit points (how do you know you are a merit source anyway), and seriously trying to do so would probably result in this being taken away.

With the above being said, I would not personally sell merit points, however I don't have a major issue with it as long as you are not a merit source. Your merit points are ultimately earned via your good posts, so I don't see why you can't do what you want with them. Also, if merit points are not being done in the open, it will only create a false sense of security because they would likely be done in secret if there was serious pushback against these kinds of trades.

I would hope that you all are kidding,Right?
Surely it must be against the rules to sell merits.
If not, we have just opened the door for those that have the resources to become the new chiefs.
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 170
Hi all!
Yesterday just fell the victim of this kinda injustice. Changed with my friends some Merits and got red trust from DT member (affiliated with Lauda & Co)
How do you think, are there any chances for us to be retrieved?
Ucy
sr. member
Activity: 2674
Merit: 403
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Could actually encourage more corruptions. I just do not fancy the idea of giving people more powers.

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