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Topic: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? (Read 493 times)

legendary
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1193694

Seems like at least the American Military isn't scared of a few civilians with kids in flip flops.

In the Militaries opinion the MLCOA is the caravan will dwindle as it heads north and about 20% will make it to the border.  They have also cited it is unlikely the migrants will be a violent threat nor are they likely to be smuggling drugs or human traffickers.

Ironically what they did say was more of a threat than the caravan was the ARMED red neck retards who want to play vigilante with their fucking guns who in the past have stolen national guard equipment...

In short your military is telling you your Pussy Grabber in Chief is a fear mongering scaredy cat who is using the military and spending millions of tax payers dollars on a false flag for the MT's, and you retards are eating it up hook line and sinker.

Either stop caravans with 1000 or 10,000 or have them with 100,000 and 1,000,000 next year. They're well funded from international sources for specific political purposes.

Stop acting like this is some joke please, or nothing more than an opportunity to blast the current POTUS.

It will be a joke to him until civil unrest gets out of control here, then he will be crying about his borders.
You'd think these people would have learned from Merkel, immigration and Europe.
legendary
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Either stop caravans with 1000 or 10,000 or have them with 100,000 and 1,000,000 next year. They're well funded from international sources for specific political purposes.

They're so well funded they can't even get a bus.

Stop acting like this is some joke please, or nothing more than an opportunity to blast the current POTUS.

The POTUS is the one who's making this into a joke and you're helping him by repeating his conspiracy theories.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1193694

Seems like at least the American Military isn't scared of a few civilians with kids in flip flops.

In the Militaries opinion the MLCOA is the caravan will dwindle as it heads north and about 20% will make it to the border.  They have also cited it is unlikely the migrants will be a violent threat nor are they likely to be smuggling drugs or human traffickers.

Ironically what they did say was more of a threat than the caravan was the ARMED red neck retards who want to play vigilante with their fucking guns who in the past have stolen national guard equipment...

In short your military is telling you your Pussy Grabber in Chief is a fear mongering scaredy cat who is using the military and spending millions of tax payers dollars on a false flag for the MT's, and you retards are eating it up hook line and sinker.

Either stop caravans with 1000 or 10,000 or have them with 100,000 and 1,000,000 next year. They're well funded from international sources for specific political purposes.

Stop acting like this is some joke please, or nothing more than an opportunity to blast the current POTUS.

It will be a joke to him until civil unrest gets out of control here, then he will be crying about his borders.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1193694

Seems like at least the American Military isn't scared of a few civilians with kids in flip flops.

In the Militaries opinion the MLCOA is the caravan will dwindle as it heads north and about 20% will make it to the border.  They have also cited it is unlikely the migrants will be a violent threat nor are they likely to be smuggling drugs or human traffickers.

Ironically what they did say was more of a threat than the caravan was the ARMED red neck retards who want to play vigilante with their fucking guns who in the past have stolen national guard equipment...

In short your military is telling you your Pussy Grabber in Chief is a fear mongering scaredy cat who is using the military and spending millions of tax payers dollars on a false flag for the MT's, and you retards are eating it up hook line and sinker.

Either stop caravans with 1000 or 10,000 or have them with 100,000 and 1,000,000 next year. They're well funded from international sources for specific political purposes.

Stop acting like this is some joke please, or nothing more than an opportunity to blast the current POTUS.
member
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Caravans of half naked Swedish girls never happen  Embarrassed
legendary
Activity: 1764
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1193694

Seems like at least the American Military isn't scared of a few civilians with kids in flip flops.

In the Militaries opinion the MLCOA is the caravan will dwindle as it heads north and about 20% will make it to the border.  They have also cited it is unlikely the migrants will be a violent threat nor are they likely to be smuggling drugs or human traffickers.

Ironically what they did say was more of a threat than the caravan was the ARMED red neck retards who want to play vigilante with their fucking guns who in the past have stolen national guard equipment...

In short your military is telling you your Pussy Grabber in Chief is a fear mongering scaredy cat who is using the military and spending millions of tax payers dollars on a false flag for the MT's, and you retards are eating it up hook line and sinker.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
Mexico is not safe because you know, drug cartels. Hence the need for the wall to protect US from this dangerous country.

Poverty and famine endanger lives. Legal definition of a refugee should be amended because a life is the most valuable thing one can lose.

90% of the dangerous areas in Mexico are by the US Border, where the drug cartels operate.

That's where you lose your car, your money, maybe your life.


Every drug cartel map I look at covers the entire country.
I doubt that it's just my bias, although anyone living in the four US states that border Mexico will have knowledge of their specific area and little knowledge of other areas.

But thinking back over friends of mine that travel regularly down there, the bad things they report are within 100 miles or so of the US border.
member
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Mexico is not safe because you know, drug cartels. Hence the need for the wall to protect US from this dangerous country.

Poverty and famine endanger lives. Legal definition of a refugee should be amended because a life is the most valuable thing one can lose.

90% of the dangerous areas in Mexico are by the US Border, where the drug cartels operate.

That's where you lose your car, your money, maybe your life.


Every drug cartel map I look at covers the entire country.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
Mexico is not safe because you know, drug cartels. Hence the need for the wall to protect US from this dangerous country.

Poverty and famine endanger lives. Legal definition of a refugee should be amended because a life is the most valuable thing one can lose.

90% of the dangerous areas in Mexico are by the US Border, where the drug cartels operate.

That's where you lose your car, your money, maybe your life.
member
Activity: 845
Merit: 56
Mexico is not safe because you know, drug cartels. Hence the need for the wall to protect US from this dangerous country.

Poverty and famine endanger lives. Legal definition of a refugee should be amended because a life is the most valuable thing one can lose.

And since the countries these people are fleeing from are so full of drug cartels, gangs and criminals, these people have every ground to fit the definition of a refugee. Trump has confirmed it himself.
legendary
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Hey smart guy, tell me. Have you ever considered what happens to The Great White North once the US collapses from being overwhelmed economically and civilly by not enforcing its borders? You think you can grow enough food up there in popsicle land to feed yourselves without our imports? Do you think for more than 3 seconds ahead ever?

Seems like I have more confidence in your country than you do because I am not concerned at all that the US will fall economically from immigration.

You can't scare me with the bogey man so I don't need to worry about something that isn't realistic!
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
You're not entitled to live anywhere besides where you have citizenship. I just don't understand how some people can defend illegals who are completetly trying to bypass the immigration system. That's a complete and utter slap in the face to people who have came to countries legally.

He wants to stop the Caravan because that's the law of the land, it's crazy thinking that a President can't do this sort of thing. I don't get it.

Why am I the only one who has heard of the Geneva Convention or The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees?

There is nothing illegal about what they are doing... this is all within the law that has been followed for 70 years

Tell me, who is persecuting them?
hero member
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You're not entitled to live anywhere besides where you have citizenship. I just don't understand how some people can defend illegals who are completetly trying to bypass the immigration system. That's a complete and utter slap in the face to people who have came to countries legally.

He wants to stop the Caravan because that's the law of the land, it's crazy thinking that a President can't do this sort of thing. I don't get it.

Why am I the only one who has heard of the Geneva Convention or The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees?

There is nothing illegal about what they are doing... this is all within the law that has been followed for 70 years
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not

Nobody says that. Anyone can apply for the immigration visa and immigrate to the US legally. 

EXACTLY, You're not entitled to live anywhere besides where you have citizenship. I just don't understand how some people can defend illegals who are completetly trying to bypass the immigration system. That's a complete and utter slap in the face to people who have came to countries legally.

He wants to stop the Caravan because that's the law of the land, it's crazy thinking that a President can't do this sort of thing. I don't get it.
hero member
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Millions of undocumented people have been flooding in for years.

Yup, every single US citizen who is not native american is an immigrant, or has an ancestor who immigrated to the US... the first illegal immigrants killed the majority of the native population, and declared that they owned the land

The truth is, more people have migrated from the US to Mexico, than from Mexico to the US in the past decade:

More Mexicans Leaving Than Coming to the U.S.

Net Loss of 140,000 from 2009 to 2014; Family Reunification Top Reason for Return

More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S.

From 2009 to 2014, 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico, according to data from the 2014 Mexican National Survey of Demographic Dynamics (ENADID). U.S. census data for the same period show an estimated 870,000 Mexican nationals left Mexico to come to the U.S., a smaller number than the flow of families from the U.S. to Mexico.

legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not

What entitles people? THE LAW.

I have empathy, and common sense. I have empathy for all the immigrants already here enjoying an improved standard of living, along with their friends and families, as well as my own who are going to suffer if immigration law is not enforced.

I also have the common sense to know this is not something that can just be done infinitely without negative effects. I can see how some one who thinks Communism is great would think we could though.


Yeah, diseases are just a conspiracy theory right?


When someone claims the caravan is carrying a disease that has been eradicated from the planet for almost 4 decades then yes I would call that a really really bad conspiracy theory, fake news and fear mongering.

Whats it like to live in a country where a few thousands civilians in flip flops are a threat to your national security. LOL you fucking pussies are scared to death of a few people...

Nice straw man. I didn't make any of those claims now you act as if I should answer for them.
Is Tuberculosis a conspiracy theory? Yeah who knew that communicable diseases are an issue in countries with almost no functional medical systems right?


Millions of undocumented people have been flooding in for years. "A few people", yeah you say the same thing,...every time...

Hey smart guy, tell me. Have you ever considered what happens to The Great White North once the US collapses from being overwhelmed economically and civilly by not enforcing its borders? You think you can grow enough food up there in popsicle land to feed yourselves without our imports? Do you think for more than 3 seconds ahead ever?
hero member
Activity: 798
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I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not

Nobody says that. Anyone can apply for the immigration visa and immigrate to the US legally.  

This is not immigration, this is refugee and asylum claims, totally different process and laws... there is nothing illegal about walking to the border and requesting asylum/refugee status... every claim will be checked by seasoned professionals who do this all the time
hero member
Activity: 798
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I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1757
Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!

Yeah, diseases are just a conspiracy theory right?


When someone claims the caravan is carrying a disease that has been eradicated from the planet for almost 4 decades then yes I would call that a really really bad conspiracy theory, fake news and fear mongering.

Whats it like to live in a country where a few thousands civilians in flip flops are a threat to your national security. LOL you fucking pussies are scared to death of a few people...
member
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Seeing as terrorism is a big problem, along with potential future conflict with Russia and China, unidentified persons slipping into the country would quite clearly constitute a threat to national security, among other things.

Don't forget smallpox, it would be such a shame if the caravan was able to bring that back into the US eh?  That might threaten hundreds of millions of Americans!

If it was only smallpox I wouldn't be so worried.  According to Fox News, they are carrying smallpox, leprosy, HIV, measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, influenza, tuberculosis, shigellosis, syphilis... I'm not sure how they are going to survive another 2 months on foot trekking through Mexico with all that

Trump and Fox News’s Caravan Hysteria Reaches a Fever Pitch | The Daily Show (time = 5:58)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqj1C9G3GBw&t=5m58s

What about ebola? Did they leave that one out?
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