Topic: What are the reasons to support war? - page 2. (Read 1689 times)
If we would think, war isn't making good effects as it always leave people in pain and sorrow. But still, there is a practical use of war which would end up in positive things. First is having rebellion inside the country. Another if there is invasion in our sovereign. Also is if there is a threat of having terrorism. This were all on our Constitution as a guideline to have a rise of war. Declaration of war should be undergone through series of debate for it to be passed. This might caused a good effect of having declaration of war.
Everything happens for a reason --- and this includes supporting war. What comes in first to my mind when I hear about the word 'war' is violence. If war is violence, then we should not tolerate war since violence have nothing to bring but pain, sorrow, and destruction. However, this would not equally necessarily mean that we shouldn't fight back. To declare first for a fight is bad, but to declare that you are going to fight back is different. The three main reasons to support war is first, if there is an existence of rebellion. Second, if there is an invasion that threatens our country's sovereignty. Third and lastly, of there is a threat in existence of terrorism. These are the things that pushes a government to declare war.
I think the justifiable reasons for war are to protect yourself from an aggressor or to protect others from an unjustifiable overwhelming force. At this stage in human development i see no other justifiably reason for war. If you think I am wrong I’m more than happy to hear other points of view.
What about preemptive strikes? If some country thinks that another nation is making preparations to attack them, then the former may launch a sudden attack in order to gain an upper hand. This was the justification given by Nazi Germany for invading the USSR.
There aren't too many reasons to support war in fact I'm also 100% against the idea of war in the majority of cases. WW1 & WW2 were probably justified and needed to happen. However, others may argue there are benefits of war; For example, if we look at WW1 and the technological advancements excluding weapons which were made because of the war:
- Mobile X-ray machine
Before the war wounded soldiers were often removed from the battlefield and transported back home to get evaluated or medics diagnosed incorrectly on site resulting in soldiers being mistreated. The mobile X-ray machine allowed medics to identify breaks and the like on site and be able to offer medical care based on the results. These are now used around the world in different clinics. For example, if you are bedridden in a hospital then nurses will now come to you and perform a X-ray.
- Satellite communication
You might recall hearing about messages being delivered via pigeon, telegrams (which were invented in the American civil war or radios which were not very reliable and could be tapped into very easily by simply being on the same channel. Radios also had a certain distance in which they wouldn't be able to transmit to each other.
Of course satellites are used for all sorts of things now including being used by everest base camp to get medical care to climbers who are suffering with Cerebral hypoxia and getting them helicopter evacuation down to lower levels. Without the invention of satellite communication expeditions such as Everest, K2 and the like would be much more risky than it is today.
- Hydrophones
Primarily used to locate U-boats these devices were designed to be used underwater to listen for sounds underneath the surface. These are now being used for various different things including locating submarines below the surface and surveying the oceans. For example, these devices are used to monitor whales within the ocean.
-Penicillin
Probably one of the most breakthrough discoveries at the time which has been deemed a super drug and saved many peoples lives. Imagine a world without penicillin. Infections which penicillin now treats these days were originally fatal. Penicillin was originally discovered in 1869 but, if it wasn't for WW2 then the effectiveness of the antibacterial drug in the world. Yeah we have alternatives for people who are allergic to Penicillin but, at the time this substance saved several thousands of soldiers dying from infection as well as those who had infections in hospitals, care homes and at home.
This isn't even including the advancements made to airplanes (jet engine), air control communication, Nuclear power, Enigma computer and ultra sound. Plus the improvements made to engines used in land vehicles.
Beyond what has already been discussed the only real benefit I can see from war is the technological advancements which are made. Especially within the medical field. You could also look at the cold war between America and Russia and probably argue that we wouldn't have landed on the moon (as soon as we did) and build a space shuttle capable of doing that if it wasn't for the massive dick measuring competition these two countries were having.
Is it a equal trade? Killing thousands of people for advancing medical care such as Penicillin which has saved thousands? It depends on the mentality that you have. Whether saving the majority is better than a select few. It's the typical dilemma where you are given a decision to make on which rail would pick the with three people tied to or one person. There's probably not a perfect answer to this, and war probably isn't justified ever. But, we shouldn't ignore the benefits which do come from war whether it's justified or not.
This is why World War happened. A coalition was formed against German forces and their allies to prevent them from gaining superior control. Of course, there was other things like eradicating a race etc. This is why I feel that in this particular situation war was justified. It was preventing another country from eradicating a race, and taking out several countries.
You are probably right from the defendants view. Although, flip that around and try to support the country which is attacking for what is probably for political gain, or power. There's two sides and it's people shouldn't support their country declaring war just for power, greed or what ever.
- Mobile X-ray machine
Before the war wounded soldiers were often removed from the battlefield and transported back home to get evaluated or medics diagnosed incorrectly on site resulting in soldiers being mistreated. The mobile X-ray machine allowed medics to identify breaks and the like on site and be able to offer medical care based on the results. These are now used around the world in different clinics. For example, if you are bedridden in a hospital then nurses will now come to you and perform a X-ray.
- Satellite communication
You might recall hearing about messages being delivered via pigeon, telegrams (which were invented in the American civil war or radios which were not very reliable and could be tapped into very easily by simply being on the same channel. Radios also had a certain distance in which they wouldn't be able to transmit to each other.
Of course satellites are used for all sorts of things now including being used by everest base camp to get medical care to climbers who are suffering with Cerebral hypoxia and getting them helicopter evacuation down to lower levels. Without the invention of satellite communication expeditions such as Everest, K2 and the like would be much more risky than it is today.
- Hydrophones
Primarily used to locate U-boats these devices were designed to be used underwater to listen for sounds underneath the surface. These are now being used for various different things including locating submarines below the surface and surveying the oceans. For example, these devices are used to monitor whales within the ocean.
-Penicillin
Probably one of the most breakthrough discoveries at the time which has been deemed a super drug and saved many peoples lives. Imagine a world without penicillin. Infections which penicillin now treats these days were originally fatal. Penicillin was originally discovered in 1869 but, if it wasn't for WW2 then the effectiveness of the antibacterial drug in the world. Yeah we have alternatives for people who are allergic to Penicillin but, at the time this substance saved several thousands of soldiers dying from infection as well as those who had infections in hospitals, care homes and at home.
This isn't even including the advancements made to airplanes (jet engine), air control communication, Nuclear power, Enigma computer and ultra sound. Plus the improvements made to engines used in land vehicles.
Beyond what has already been discussed the only real benefit I can see from war is the technological advancements which are made. Especially within the medical field. You could also look at the cold war between America and Russia and probably argue that we wouldn't have landed on the moon (as soon as we did) and build a space shuttle capable of doing that if it wasn't for the massive dick measuring competition these two countries were having.
Is it a equal trade? Killing thousands of people for advancing medical care such as Penicillin which has saved thousands? It depends on the mentality that you have. Whether saving the majority is better than a select few. It's the typical dilemma where you are given a decision to make on which rail would pick the with three people tied to or one person. There's probably not a perfect answer to this, and war probably isn't justified ever. But, we shouldn't ignore the benefits which do come from war whether it's justified or not.
The main reasons for goverments to support war is financial and territorial resources. These resources are needed for power and domination over other countries. There's no some higher purpose to start war. Only human vices motivate people to initiate such act of violence. Unfortunately it's sad truth about human nature.
Yes, but this isn't a reason to support war. In fact you might argue that this is a reason to not support war as it encourages greed and dominance. For example, if you asked people about monopolies in the business world people would more than likely say they are bad and small businesses should be given a chance to compete. Well, if the USA declared war on a smaller country to gains it's power, profits and strategical position is that really a good thing? This is why World War happened. A coalition was formed against German forces and their allies to prevent them from gaining superior control. Of course, there was other things like eradicating a race etc. This is why I feel that in this particular situation war was justified. It was preventing another country from eradicating a race, and taking out several countries.
Can you explain what's the reason? You can say positive as well as negative reasons.
I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
War can be caused by invasion and war could mean death and destruction of properties. This can be a reason for people to support war. The preservation of lives and to defend your properties.I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
to illustrate the importance of understanding which reason is behind a conflict,
Remember that if there is a lack of ability to enforce or agree on an agreement, it may be a war
last a long time. It will last until either one side emerges successfully, or the situation
has changed so the costs of ongoing conflicts are overwhelming for
all sides. Such a lack of agreements that can be enforced is usually one of the main components
leading to long-term war. In contrast, suppose the possible enforceable and credible agreements
it is possible, but states begin with asymmetrical information, for example, about
relative strength of one of the two countries. In that case, there may be bargaining
failure to lead to war. However, in these settings once the war really begins the kinsman
the strengths of the nation can be more pronounced, and given that credible bargaining is
can and prevent further war costs in states can then reach an agreement with
finish the war. Thus, different battles of the war may correspond to different sources of
bargaining failure. A lack of ability to enforce a bargaining agreement and/or a lack of the ability
to credibly commit to abide by an agreement. the world will not be able to find a place in the world without a fight. . .
Remember that if there is a lack of ability to enforce or agree on an agreement, it may be a war
last a long time. It will last until either one side emerges successfully, or the situation
has changed so the costs of ongoing conflicts are overwhelming for
all sides. Such a lack of agreements that can be enforced is usually one of the main components
leading to long-term war. In contrast, suppose the possible enforceable and credible agreements
it is possible, but states begin with asymmetrical information, for example, about
relative strength of one of the two countries. In that case, there may be bargaining
failure to lead to war. However, in these settings once the war really begins the kinsman
the strengths of the nation can be more pronounced, and given that credible bargaining is
can and prevent further war costs in states can then reach an agreement with
finish the war. Thus, different battles of the war may correspond to different sources of
bargaining failure. A lack of ability to enforce a bargaining agreement and/or a lack of the ability
to credibly commit to abide by an agreement. the world will not be able to find a place in the world without a fight. . .
I think the justifiable reasons for war are to protect yourself from an aggressor or to protect others from an unjustifiable overwhelming force. At this stage in human development i see no other justifiably reason for war. If you think I am wrong I’m more than happy to hear other points of view.
For me, there is no reason for me to support war. If I have a way to stop it, I'll do it. At the end of the day, no one wins if we go on war. It will only bring sadness to anyone who has been affected. It can destroy a person's life and it will just continue no matter how bad we want to stop it. Greedy people wants war because they benefit from it. They are the one who should be fighting on the battlefield so they know what they just started.
Thats true, why some countries join war or support war because they have some vested interests like selling their warships and weapons. Also conquering the resources of the other countries like petroleum products, golds etc.
Can you explain what's the reason? You can say positive as well as negative reasons.
I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
That's quite strong allegations about the USA, yeah trump is a pain in the a**, but I don't think America goes to war for resources acquisition. There's world market to properly acquire resources you need for your country, and America participates well in that economy.
We're in the new era now, no such reason to support war specially if lives are at stake.
Can you explain what's the reason? You can say positive as well as negative reasons.
I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
I think the most common reason for war is the urge to capture resources owned by another jurisdiction. For example, the USA frequently goes to war to secure access to energy resources.
War will never end as long as the leader's imparted ideology to his followers continues to live.
War kills people and destroy lives. War will never be justifiable when someone has to suffer, specially the innocent ones. Supporting war is like aiding a genocide.
If one of the side is an evil force. It's the biggest reason to support not just the war but the supporting the side that are fighting for what's right and defending the innocent ones.
What is an "evil force"? I doubt the "evil force" sees itself that way, usually your side is the "evil force" to them...
I recall an old cartoon where a soldier was asking a general why they were fighting the enemy, so the dialog went like this:
Soldier: - Why are we fighting them?
General: - Because we're right and they are wrong!
S: - Then why are they fighting us?
G: - Because they think they're right and we're wrong!
If one of the side is an evil force. It's the biggest reason to support not just the war but the supporting the side that are fighting for what's right and defending the innocent ones.
At wars I found strange to see so many geography-ignorant people talking so high on how they "own some land", despite never even being there or even able to point it in a map...
I really do not like the war because my country has been through a lot of wars and that has made my country is growing very slowly in all aspects but fortunately i am still living on my country without having to live in another country, we have protected it with our blood and flesh.
I am very sorry for the countries that are suffering war at this time and especially the soldiers who are fighting on the battlefield of the fatherland.
I am very sorry for the countries that are suffering war at this time and especially the soldiers who are fighting on the battlefield of the fatherland.
War is also means of intergroup relations among nations of all world. War serve as possible means when all mediation is of know use.....however the outcome of the benefited one party than the other because it might led to overruled on the losers of the war
Well first of all you have to understand there are truly evil people in this world. It is true that war happens for a complexity of reasons including money, but never forget that leaders who are truly evil will not stop on their own so in order to protect those who are innocent victims war may be necessary. If you think this can be a totally utopian world you are kidding yourself. Evil exist.
To support war is to get power. I am power hungry and I support war.
There are some high ranked people support war it is because they want to own something that they want to get.
No specific reason, I just want this world to come to an end.
I think the main reason for supporting the war is the power to seize and defend a territory. other than that by waging people can mendalatkan resources and profits for the winning.
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