What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg? - page 6.

BADecker

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Quote from: Vod on January 19, 2018, 04:12:34 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 03:58:06 PM

Thank you, again, for showing us how mixed up you are.

You are the only person mixed up. Tried to help you for over a year but you are still asking the most basic of questions answered many times.

You are too dense to understand life is not a fairy tale. :/

Go on out and play with the rest of the children, and let us adults consider chicken/egg questions... since you don't seem to be able to understand enough to stay on topic.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 03:58:06 PM

Thank you, again, for showing us how mixed up you are.

You are the only person mixed up. Tried to help you for over a year but you are still asking the most basic of questions answered many times.

You are too dense to understand life is not a fairy tale. :/

BADecker

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Quote from: popcorn1 on January 19, 2018, 03:52:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

Quote from: mi56374100 on January 17, 2018, 10:44:25 PM

First chicken belongs to birds, and all the birds are evolved from reptiles, and this way of reproducing since amphibian egg to run reptiles evolution had to lay their eggs on land. Whether the chicken evolved from another bird or the reptile evolved directly, the chicken came out of the egg. So we have the egg. And if you ask the chicken or the egg first, you have the chicken first, because only the chicken can produce eggs.

Except for one major thing. If you have a non-chicken animal that lays an egg, and the egg hatches out a chicken, the number of mutations that would have to happen inside the egg to make this happen, is way beyond what evolution theory suggests.

This cannot happen. We have no theory of such a great number of beneficial mutations to happen in a egg that would make this possible. It can't happen. It is illogical on the face of it.

Besides, since we don't have any evidence of it - certainly no proof - such a thing is only a science fiction story. Find a different story that makes more sense.

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the number of mutations that would have to happen inside the egg to make this happen, is way beyond what evolution theory suggests.
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   SO YOU DO BELIEVE
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I knew one day we would make you better Wink

If you mean that I believe that evolution is reality, no, I don't believe that.

If you mean that I believe that evolution theory is inconsistent with egg-came-first the way it is said in this thread, that is not only believable, but can be easily demonstrated. Here's how.

Punctuated Equilibrium evolution theory was developed, because there is no evidence of a smooth, gradual climb in nature to match standard evolution theory. PE suggests that there were periods of little or no change, followed by periods of great evolutionary change. However, even the periods of great change have no change great enough to mutate the innards of an egg of one animal, into the innards of an egg of another animal.

Egg-came-first is impossible according to any available evolution theory. Does this mean that I believe evolution theory... just because I know something about it? Of course not.

You may have been joking, but if you were serious, you need to see your shrink (again).

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BADecker

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Quote from: Vod on January 19, 2018, 03:18:09 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

Besides, since we don't have any evidence of it - certainly no proof - such a thing is only a science fiction story. Find a different story that makes more sense.

Just because something doesn't jive with your brainwashing doesn't make it untrue. :/

Proof of evolution is all around us. Even the major religions are accepting evolution as fact.

You are too dense to understand, so I post this with the hope others will.

Thank you, again, for showing us how mixed up you are. First, this topic isn't about evolution. It's about the chicken or the egg. Second, my post wasn't an evolution or no-evolution post; it was the inconsistency of egg-came-first evolution with current evolution theory.

Go read it again. Those who use current evolution theory to say that the egg came first, are wrong according to current evolution theory. If they make better evolution theory, they might be able to use evolution theory to say the egg came first. Current evolution theory doesn't allow this.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

Quote from: mi56374100 on January 17, 2018, 10:44:25 PM

First chicken belongs to birds, and all the birds are evolved from reptiles, and this way of reproducing since amphibian egg to run reptiles evolution had to lay their eggs on land. Whether the chicken evolved from another bird or the reptile evolved directly, the chicken came out of the egg. So we have the egg. And if you ask the chicken or the egg first, you have the chicken first, because only the chicken can produce eggs.

Except for one major thing. If you have a non-chicken animal that lays an egg, and the egg hatches out a chicken, the number of mutations that would have to happen inside the egg to make this happen, is way beyond what evolution theory suggests.

This cannot happen. We have no theory of such a great number of beneficial mutations to happen in a egg that would make this possible. It can't happen. It is illogical on the face of it.

Besides, since we don't have any evidence of it - certainly no proof - such a thing is only a science fiction story. Find a different story that makes more sense.

Cool

the number of mutations that would have to happen inside the egg to make this happen, is way beyond what evolution theory suggests.
^^^^^^ ^^
Cheesy

^
SO YOU DO BELIEVE
Grin

I knew one day we would make you better Wink

Vod

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Quote from: BADecker on January 19, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

Besides, since we don't have any evidence of it - certainly no proof - such a thing is only a science fiction story. Find a different story that makes more sense.

Just because something doesn't jive with your brainwashing doesn't make it untrue. :/

Proof of evolution is all around us. Even the major religions are accepting evolution as fact.

You are too dense to understand, so I post this with the hope others will.

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Quote from: bcnaranjo on August 13, 2017, 06:56:12 PM

This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

We all know that many people been discussed this kind of issue , and many people been fighting which come first the egg or the chicken , as far as I know chicken come first because chicken created by our God and then comes with an egg that's my theory I guess. We all have various explanation and perspective through this kind of discussion.

Hendralam18

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I love this question, many people may confuse if get this question Huh

First I will explain if we think Egg first how the egg will hatched Roll Eyes

So the conclusion was the chicken first than chicken produce egg,
Egg need incubate by the female chicken

BADecker

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Quote from: mi56374100 on January 17, 2018, 10:44:25 PM

First chicken belongs to birds, and all the birds are evolved from reptiles, and this way of reproducing since amphibian egg to run reptiles evolution had to lay their eggs on land. Whether the chicken evolved from another bird or the reptile evolved directly, the chicken came out of the egg. So we have the egg. And if you ask the chicken or the egg first, you have the chicken first, because only the chicken can produce eggs.

Except for one major thing. If you have a non-chicken animal that lays an egg, and the egg hatches out a chicken, the number of mutations that would have to happen inside the egg to make this happen, is way beyond what evolution theory suggests.

This cannot happen. We have no theory of such a great number of beneficial mutations to happen in a egg that would make this possible. It can't happen. It is illogical on the face of it.

Besides, since we don't have any evidence of it - certainly no proof - such a thing is only a science fiction story. Find a different story that makes more sense.

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mi56374100

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First chicken belongs to birds, and all the birds are evolved from reptiles, and this way of reproducing since amphibian egg to run reptiles evolution had to lay their eggs on land. Whether the chicken evolved from another bird or the reptile evolved directly, the chicken came out of the egg. So we have the egg. And if you ask the chicken or the egg first, you have the chicken first, because only the chicken can produce eggs.

maann23

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I believe it's the chicken, God created all animals wherein they need to multiply.

Algochain

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chicken

Bit Tuka

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The chicken of course. I believe in the creation story this I believe that God created animals right away, not the younger versions.

pombur

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Very simple and already solved issue.
Depends on your point of view. If we accept the theory of evolution, birds evolved from reptiles. Accordingly, it is an animal that You will agree to call the first bird hatched from eggs, laid reptiles. Conclusion: first there was the egg.
If you accept the theory of creationism, then the issue needs to be forwarded to the Creator. What He created was originally pre - chicken or the egg?

Andrianla

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This is a classic question I have ever heard from my childhood, I think Chicken first

novansantoso

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The protein needed to form hard shells the egg was exclusively NOT found in her ovaries of chicken. So easy concluded that the first, because it’s hard shells eggs can not made without the protein such.

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Quote from: bcnaranjo on August 13, 2017, 06:56:12 PM

This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

Chicken comes first, it stated in the Bible. God created animals not eggs.

bravehearth0319

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I think Chicken came first before Egg. it's God creation just like Adam and Eve. they are created by God but built them as a human. So if your going to ask me what came first baby or parents? Psycho reversal ofcourse!

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Quote from: bcnaranjo on August 13, 2017, 06:56:12 PM

This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

I know this is a tricky question, i used to her it from my uncle when i was a young child but, the answer is that the first was the chicken.

Vod

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Quote from: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:17:53 PM

This means that, even though bacteria is never mentioned, they had to exist before or right along with the plants.

Nonsense.

When you invoke your fairy tale magic, anything can happen. There are no rules.

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