What class of an investor are you? - page 6.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 02:54:04 PM

The researcher investor

Number 3....do you know why? Because I want to maximize every potential through the research I or others conduct with my full power. Moreover, thinking before acting at least prevents us from relying too much on luck, like gambling. So, investment is an investment, and it really bears the fruit of thoughtful consideration, even though the outcome might fail or succeed.

I'm a bit skeptical about number 2... is it really a Ponzi scheme, which is considered bad by many people? I'm pretty sure that's not the type of true investor worth acknowledging.

As for option number four, I believe only a few people would choose this to boast about being "rich." This option is full of arrogance in its explanation as well, so anyone who chooses this option should be able to prove that their wealth is valid. Even true wealthy individuals seem not to consider themselves rich and knowledgeable because there is always another sky above and more stars.

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Quote from: Inwestour on December 08, 2023, 09:45:35 AM

I tried hold and trading, and I see that holding can bring the best result, but it’s worth clarifying that I only buy Bitcoin for investment, this is the only coin in which I am ready to invest. I tried trading both Bitcoin and altcoins, but in any case, hold brings the best profit, so I don’t see the point in studying any other projects. I see that some projects are growing faster than Bitcoin, but I doubt that I can find the right one, but with Bitcoin everything is simple, you buy and hold.

Buying only bitcoin is better options as there is no other coin that is competent with bitcoin. Some altcoins can perform better than bitcoin but bitcoin attained that higher value which no other coin can ever bring off. Bitcoin is not a good option for short term trading therefore one should keep it for years to find out maximum return.

Holding can keep down your daunting behaviour and also as longer you Hold the more will be the value of your asset at the time of selling. Annually bitcoin attained maximum value so previous investor will have greater profit in contrast with newbies as newbies are buying bitcoin at higher worth because it is increasing more and more.

What you said is true, and I agree with that, honestly speaking. As for me, when I do day trading activity, I focus more on other crypto and meme coins that are on the top listing in the market, to be honest.

And in fairness, I get more profit here than on Bitcoin. Maybe we each have our own niche. I'm not saying that Bitcoin is not good for getting profit; that's not my point. My only point is that wherever you are and you know you are making a profit, that is where you should stick and develop it well.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 08, 2023, 05:58:38 PM

I guess that many of us here became the Ponzi investor before we even knew that this scheme was a scam. And then from there, we started to become the research type of investor to make sure that mistake won't happen again. We don't wanna be a victim of the same scams that we've encountered before.

Quote from: bounceback on December 08, 2023, 01:37:03 PM

Beginner need more education to choose which one class of an investor in the future, but many kinds of ponzi investment make new investor interested to invest there and they less knowledge how bad with ponzi investment class.

And that's why they need to know more about the classic investments and the classic scams that are into existence. Because if they don't do, they'll fall for the same scam schemes again and again. But to remember, one time of being scammed is a lesson but second and more is being stupid and ignorant.

And actually what is very worrying is that for a long time the creators of Ponzi scheme investments were those who were most active and enthusiastic in promoting their investments. So it is not surprising that many beginners fall into Ponzi investments. Some of them realize it before the money runs out and there are also those who realize it after the money runs out. But it is true that there are also many beginners who have mature experience after they enter a Ponzi scheme and realize that they have entered the wrong area and they learn from it and no longer make mistakes. Because they become more careful and start to become investors who always do research first.

Even though I don't have much experience with Ponzi scheme investments, I have learned a lot from other people's experiences. So I can avoid it until now. And actually being a careful person doesn't always mean you can avoid risks. But we can minimize the risk.

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Quote from: Inwestour on December 08, 2023, 09:45:35 AM

I tried hold and trading, and I see that holding can bring the best result, but it’s worth clarifying that I only buy Bitcoin for investment, this is the only coin in which I am ready to invest. I tried trading both Bitcoin and altcoins, but in any case, hold brings the best profit, so I don’t see the point in studying any other projects. I see that some projects are growing faster than Bitcoin, but I doubt that I can find the right one, but with Bitcoin everything is simple, you buy and hold.

Buying only bitcoin is better options as there is no other coin that is competent with bitcoin. Some altcoins can perform better than bitcoin but bitcoin attained that higher value which no other coin can ever bring off. Bitcoin is not a good option for short term trading therefore one should keep it for years to find out maximum return.

Holding can keep down your daunting behaviour and also as longer you Hold the more will be the value of your asset at the time of selling. Annually bitcoin attained maximum value so previous investor will have greater profit in contrast with newbies as newbies are buying bitcoin at higher worth because it is increasing more and more.

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I guess that many of us here became the Ponzi investor before we even knew that this scheme was a scam. And then from there, we started to become the research type of investor to make sure that mistake won't happen again. We don't wanna be a victim of the same scams that we've encountered before.

Quote from: bounceback on December 08, 2023, 01:37:03 PM

Beginner need more education to choose which one class of an investor in the future, but many kinds of ponzi investment make new investor interested to invest there and they less knowledge how bad with ponzi investment class.

And that's why they need to know more about the classic investments and the classic scams that are into existence. Because if they don't do, they'll fall for the same scam schemes again and again. But to remember, one time of being scammed is a lesson but second and more is being stupid and ignorant.

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I have experienced with all kinds class investor start from new investor, ponzi scheme investor until become the wealthy trader, before become investor of cryptocurrency I have invested before in scheme ponzi business with promising reward return in daily day around 2% until have ponzi investment return 10% in daily day. I learned with many kinds of investment class before consistent with investor of cryptocurrency and get more benefic than ponzi investment.

Beginner need more education to choose which one class of an investor in the future, but many kinds of ponzi investment make new investor interested to invest there and they less knowledge how bad with ponzi investment class.

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Quote from: 2girls on December 07, 2023, 04:07:15 PM

Getting research ab out different coins made me a better trader but that take more time as compared to a tutor or someone is teaching a person trading. Personally I believe we should do trading with having a good capital available in each sense.

Also we should avoid most things in trading like we have to do trading with full confidence in order to get out of the pressure of loss. Mostly users got frightened by having loss in different areas.

Every investor must at least have the type of research investor, because the first thing that must be done before investing is research. because without this our investment has no targets and goals.

What's more important for investors, apart from research, is that the opportunity for low prices can be exploited, but they must be prepared for risks in the future, or even forget it, that's why we need to always use non-principal money when investing, and last but not least, we have to be mentally strong.

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It's a bit difficult for me to answer all of this, but what is clear is that I am an investor in crypto, but of course as an investor I am ready for the risks posed by crypto. and in my opinion it is rare for investors to always make a profit, because there are times when losses always occur. but what is clear is that I am not the type of person who doesn't dare to try because in my opinion, by daring to try, we will definitely gain extensive experience and insight, but in the process of experimenting, start small first so that the risk is not too big and of course learn from experience and always don't give up when facing obstacles and obstacles. So in my opinion everything also contains a lot of risks so basically there are advantages and disadvantages.

it seems like the right one for me is, I'm an investor in crypto and someone who always trades in crypto. and I really enjoy the profits from investing in crypto, but I am also ready to experience losses from investing in crypto and trading in crypto.
Yes, but of course everyone has their own reasons.

and I also only invest and trade from my own money, not given capital by anyone. and of course every human being has a different story.
but of course I am
not a researcher investor
not a new investor.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on December 08, 2023, 11:12:47 AM

Considering this is bitcointalk, the official platform for bitcoin discussions, you should expect the majority of the bitcoin holders here to be whales

Bitcointalk is the forum launched by the satoshi and lot of OGs and developers were here engaging in the development of bitcointalk so does the early investors who could be whales now if they still actually be holding the bitcoins they bought. But talking about the active members engaging no, I bet they can't be sharks with very rare exceptions.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on December 06, 2023, 03:01:06 PM

There are only two types of investors, retail investors and sharks.

We can belong to either of these category by the way we have invested on bitcoin, if we are rather a whale or a rayfish bitcoin holder otherwise known as retail bitcoiner.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on December 06, 2023, 03:01:06 PM

People we found in bitcointalk are mostly will be retail investors because we are talking about in thousands when it comes to investments either its related to crypto or any other assets while sharks got the capital which gives them an edge to make money a lot faster than a retail investor.

Considering this is bitcointalk, the official platform for bitcoin discussions, you should expect the majority of the bitcoin holders here to be whales with the combination of other retail holders, if the whales does not exist here, where else could they have existed than bitcoin forum, you cannot know the real identity of every bitcoiners here, that's why privacy is very important.

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Quote from: 2girls on December 07, 2023, 04:07:15 PM

Getting research ab out different coins made me a better trader but that take more time as compared to a tutor or someone is teaching a person trading. Personally I believe we should do trading with having a good capital available in each sense.

Everyone really needs to do research on every job they want to start, because without knowing about the depth or ins and outs that exist in each coin or cryptocurrency in general, it will certainly be very difficult for traders to choose the best cryptocurrency to trade with them in the market. Because traders also need to choose cryptocurrencies very carefully so as not to get stuck with shitcoins that are less useful in the market.

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Also we should avoid most things in trading like we have to do trading with full confidence in order to get out of the pressure of loss. Mostly users got frightened by having loss in different areas.

Those who are afraid of losing in various areas are people who may not understand the risks in trading and may be wrong in choosing the coins they trade in the market. Apart from that, it could also be because they don't have spare capital when trading so that is the only capital they use for trading so they are more easily afraid and panic when they experience losses in various areas.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on December 06, 2023, 03:01:06 PM

There are only two types of investors, retail investors and sharks.

People we found in bitcointalk are mostly will be retail investors because we are talking about in thousands when it comes to investments either its related to crypto or any other assets while sharks got the capital which gives them an edge to make money a lot faster than a retail investor.

But I think in this forum there are also big investors (whales/sharks) or whatever. But the majority of users here seem to be retail investors. But OP here is only asking about what level we are currently at as investors. Maybe shark investors can be interpreted as rich investors if adjusted to OP's language. And I don't think I belong there yet. Because I still invest with limited capital and can only pay in installments gradually from the profits from the business I own with my husband. Maybe it could be said to be a research investor if adjusted to OP's language. Because I do a lot of analysis before investing in anything. Especially with crypto, of course you have to be more careful because of the high risk. I hope one day I can become a rich investor (Sharks/Whales). Cool

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Quote from: Unbunplease on December 08, 2023, 07:25:56 AM

In order to trade, you need to have certain knowledge and skills, as well as the character and ability to maintain financial discipline. Not everyone has these qualities. Personally, I like holding more than trading, so I try to study projects thoroughly before investing in them

I tried hold and trading, and I see that holding can bring the best result, but it’s worth clarifying that I only buy Bitcoin for investment, this is the only coin in which I am ready to invest. I tried trading both Bitcoin and altcoins, but in any case, hold brings the best profit, so I don’t see the point in studying any other projects. I see that some projects are growing faster than Bitcoin, but I doubt that I can find the right one, but with Bitcoin everything is simple, you buy and hold.

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Quote from: 2girls on December 07, 2023, 04:07:15 PM

Getting research ab out different coins made me a better trader but that take more time as compared to a tutor or someone is teaching a person trading. Personally I believe we should do trading with having a good capital available in each sense.

Also we should avoid most things in trading like we have to do trading with full confidence in order to get out of the pressure of loss. Mostly users got frightened by having loss in different areas.

In order to trade, you need to have certain knowledge and skills, as well as the character and ability to maintain financial discipline. Not everyone has these qualities. Personally, I like holding more than trading, so I try to study projects thoroughly before investing in them

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 02:54:04 PM

The Ponzi scheme Investor
One who invests in ponzi scams continuously is this. This is the person who thinks about get-rich-quick schemes.

People might think that this set of investors doesn't exist, but I can confirm that there are people that are addicted to Ponzi scheme investors. Regardless of how much they lose, immediately they see another Ponzi firm they will still put their funds. They are impatient people that want to make a profit without any stress or delay. I have a friend that dislikes investing in Bitcoin because he thinks it is a waste of time. He prefers investing in businesses that promise large profit within a short time.

Lol this just reminds me of a friend I have, he's just so addicted to Ponzi schemes that he sees it as the only way that'll make him rich, regardless being duped and scammed several times, when asked why he was still very persistent, he'd always say, the times he lost money wasn't his time and that his time will surely come and he'll hit it big through the Ponzi schemes.

He was the person that introduced me to Ponzi, that was when I started looking for ways to make money online, then I wasn't quite familiar with Bitcoin. It only took me two experiences of loosing my money to realize this was a total bullshit and I started sorting for other ways and that was how I learnt about bitcoin.

This dude has even device techniques of following the Ponzi, deep down he knows they're all scams but he has also devices means to cash out from them, he'd always look for new and fresh Ponzi schemes and then invest his money because he believes whoever invests in the earliest stages of the project wouldnt loose money, and funny enough it always works for him, he makes good money from them but it's a very risky venture and that's a risk I can't afford to take.

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Getting research ab out different coins made me a better trader but that take more time as compared to a tutor or someone is teaching a person trading. Personally I believe we should do trading with having a good capital available in each sense.

Also we should avoid most things in trading like we have to do trading with full confidence in order to get out of the pressure of loss. Mostly users got frightened by having loss in different areas.

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Op you would have add average investors. Because when I looked at the categories I didn't see my level or the category I belong. From the categories I am not a new investors because I am not yet to invest but already investing and I am not a Ponzi scheme investor again though I have invested there and lost but not again and I am not doing research to think before investing and as I said, I am already investing so I am not there as well then also I am not a wealthy investor so from the list where do you categorized the already investing average investors?

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I can classify myself as a researcher investor because I tried to dot my i's and cross my t's but in a bull market it is better to be a Ponzi scheme investors because almost everything pumps, you first buy and do your research so has to know how long the project can go. Doing through research in the bull market is a waste of time and will make you lose money

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 02:54:04 PM

I agree that there are those types of investors who classify themselves as angel investors, venture capitalist,¹ etc. But before they become all of these types of investors, from my own perspective, I have put them into some classes. It is not an exhaustive or an elaborative list but at least, you get the idea of where I am driving at.

Class of Investors to the best of my understanding

New Investor
These are friends and family members who are willing to contribute a small quantity of money to your company.

The Ponzi scheme Investor
One who invests in ponzi scams continuously is this. This is the person who thinks about get-rich-quick schemes.

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

The Wealthy Trader
This one has had a number of profitable investments over the years. They are knowledgeable, experienced, show expertise.

What class of an investor are you?

Even though I haven’t come across an economic or investor classification like the one you mentioned here before I will give brief information about myself according to the types of investors you mentioned here;

First of all, I think I am partly a Ponzi investor because although very rarely I make risky but high-return investment choices that have the logic of working this way. On the other hand, I think this is the most accurate classification in which I can describe myself as I have the profile of a researcher who generally prefers to do detailed research for long-term investments. I think this option can be a dominant in my investment profile especially if I conduct detailed analysis and research about my entire long-term investment basket.

Finally, I think that “The Wealthy Trader” option may be a partially suitable option for me because I have a deep-rooted history of successful transactions, experience and knowledge in financial markets. I think this option may be suitable for me especially since I have frequently made successful and significant profit-making transactions in the last year.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on December 05, 2023, 09:29:08 AM

I just noticed that most of us here are really researcher investors, and that is the truth, and we should be active crypto community traders in this industry. But I didn't notice that there are any Ponzi investors here, or maybe no one wants to admit it.

But most are also new investors, and there will be more newbie investors as we approach the halving and bull run next year, that's for sure. Many investors will chase once the plane takes off or the ship's anchor is lifted.

People who take risks by knowing that they are investing in Ponzi schemes but still do it just hoping that they might earn a lot of profit from it shouldn't be afraid to admit it because there is nothing wrong in doing something deliberately, especially if you are spending an amount that you can easily afford to lose just like a gambler who gambles for fun or just to see if their luck works or not if they have a plan to play a certain game and try to hit a high multiplier choosing very high odds.

However, someone who is too naïve to understand that they've been investing in Ponzi schemes and have done it multiple times hoping that they will get rich from their investments might feel bad opening up about it because that will make them look like a fool since they have been scammed multiple times by the same type of scammers.

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