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Quote from: pinggoki on December 05, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

I can't be sure about this as I don't want to come off as someone that toots their own horn but I would say that I'm the kind of investor that's going to be making a lot of profit because I deal in the long-term when I invest in something and in the case of bitcoin, I see the potential that it have and I don't like the idea that I will be missing out on bitcoin again, I had the opportunity when it was cheaper, not going to let that slip away ever again.

I think so and perhaps it is not necessary to classify them because investors may have to buy several different products in the end to make a profit like you did.

Or more flexible, in other words, an investor will be the type of investor according to the situation they experience. To be honest, I'm not too sure which type I fall into, but I think the closest I can come is the type that does in-depth research.
As in the case of bitcoin for example, I was not as confident as I am now, but after I did some research, including looking at the history of bitcoin development, the confidence began to grow. Maybe I'm not as smart as other people or people who are more expert in doing research, but at least I have something that I can hold on to in doing research.

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Quote from: Fortify on December 06, 2023, 05:10:54 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 01:54:04 PM

I agree that there are those types of investors who classify themselves as angel investors, venture capitalist,¹ etc. But before they become all of these types of investors, from my own perspective, I have put them into some classes. It is not an exhaustive or an elaborative list but at least, you get the idea of where I am driving at.

Class of Investors to the best of my understanding

New Investor
These are friends and family members who are willing to contribute a small quantity of money to your company.

The Ponzi scheme Investor
One who invests in ponzi scams continuously is this. This is the person who thinks about get-rich-quick schemes.

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

The Wealthy Trader
This one has had a number of profitable investments over the years. They are knowledgeable, experienced, show expertise.

What class of an investor are you?

A lot of these overlap or one might turn into another. Anyone who has been investing for a while will understand that things always start off slowly and can take a year or 3 before you really start seeing the fruit of your patience. A research driven investor who sticks with it and keeps adding funds over a long time, while learning along the way, will eventually become a wealthy trader. It seems rather silly to class it as just a "ponzi scheme" investor, but rather one who is always seeking out "get rich quick" type financial rewards, which more often than not lead to financial failures and setbacks - because scams come in so many forms. It doesn't even need to be a scam, there are so many overhyped companies out there which are coasting along on thin air but eventually come back to earth with a bang.

Or simply they do really connect into each other on which it is really just that right that one could turn into another basing up into someones plans and preference. Just like on what you have said that
research investor/trader would upgrade into that wealth trader which everything do comes from newbie trader. Therefore, it is really just that connected to each other, it would really be just that depending
on how you would really be that making yourself to cross out those status basing up into your experience. Some would be able to succeed and some wouldnt really be able to do so.

For me then it would really be that be on this order.

1. Newbie investor
2. Research investtor
3. Wealthy Trader (if succeeded)

Excluding that ponzi investor but there are people who do eventually trying out their luck when it comes to these investments on which it is really that somewhat
they do really gamble out their money for them to make money if they wouldnt really be scammed in the end.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 01:54:04 PM

I agree that there are those types of investors who classify themselves as angel investors, venture capitalist,¹ etc. But before they become all of these types of investors, from my own perspective, I have put them into some classes. It is not an exhaustive or an elaborative list but at least, you get the idea of where I am driving at.

Class of Investors to the best of my understanding

New Investor
These are friends and family members who are willing to contribute a small quantity of money to your company.

The Ponzi scheme Investor
One who invests in ponzi scams continuously is this. This is the person who thinks about get-rich-quick schemes.

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

The Wealthy Trader
This one has had a number of profitable investments over the years. They are knowledgeable, experienced, show expertise.

What class of an investor are you?

A lot of these overlap or one might turn into another. Anyone who has been investing for a while will understand that things always start off slowly and can take a year or 3 before you really start seeing the fruit of your patience. A research driven investor who sticks with it and keeps adding funds over a long time, while learning along the way, will eventually become a wealthy trader. It seems rather silly to class it as just a "ponzi scheme" investor, but rather one who is always seeking out "get rich quick" type financial rewards, which more often than not lead to financial failures and setbacks - because scams come in so many forms. It doesn't even need to be a scam, there are so many overhyped companies out there which are coasting along on thin air but eventually come back to earth with a bang.

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There are only two types of investors, retail investors and sharks.

People we found in bitcointalk are mostly will be retail investors because we are talking about in thousands when it comes to investments either its related to crypto or any other assets while sharks got the capital which gives them an edge to make money a lot faster than a retail investor.

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Quote from: pinggoki on December 05, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

I can't be sure about this as I don't want to come off as someone that toots their own horn but I would say that I'm the kind of investor that's going to be making a lot of profit because I deal in the long-term when I invest in something and in the case of bitcoin, I see the potential that it have and I don't like the idea that I will be missing out on bitcoin again, I had the opportunity when it was cheaper, not going to let that slip away ever again.

I think so and perhaps it is not necessary to classify them because investors may have to buy several different products in the end to make a profit like you did.

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I am more of a researcher because the market is always changing and one particular approach doesn't suit all market conditions so doing my research before making my decision becomes a top most priority for my investment. When I started I began I started as a complete beginner sourcing capital from friends and family but was to no avail then I had to do some side job to generate capital

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Quote from: Uruhara on December 05, 2023, 08:31:43 PM

Quote from: shawonngp on December 03, 2023, 12:59:46 AM

In the early stage of my investment when i was new investor i got big support from my family members and i started invest. But now i am in third category because i like to invest with deeply researched, it can be crypto investment or other offline in real life investment.

I am also closer to the category of investors who act based on research results. Because without research it is carelessness and speculation which is clearly not true. It's all speculation. But speculating with the help of research results is the best and justified. So it could be said that the most difficult part of investing is actually gathering information in the context of the research itself. And sometimes we also compete to get information faster than anyone else. Because those who are the most late in getting information are definitely those who are late in entering into the investment itself. So it is not surprising that there are paid services to collect information to meet these needs. But I prefer to research in my own way and that can train my own thoroughness. And there is a strong feeling of satisfaction when we manage to get information faster than other people.

Making research first before we make an investment in my opinion is the most important thing to do, and I believe people who are successful with their investments are people who also do in-depth research, especially in this cryptocurrency space. I'm not going to say that if you do your research then you're guaranteed to make a profit, it's not always the case, but at least the percentage of success will be higher. Especially if the research is based on real experiences that we have experienced, of course it will increase our chances of success in doing research.

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I am a diversified investor that has the goal of a short-term trading that has a high risk to have been a quick rich earning to solve my financial challenges while chasing after a pace to a long-term investment with a low risk but profitable aimed to settling for my retirement in the future

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Quote from: Uruhara on December 05, 2023, 08:31:43 PM

Quote from: shawonngp on December 03, 2023, 12:59:46 AM

In the early stage of my investment when i was new investor i got big support from my family members and i started invest. But now i am in third category because i like to invest with deeply researched, it can be crypto investment or other offline in real life investment.

I am also closer to the category of investors who act based on research results. Because without research it is carelessness and speculation which is clearly not true. It's all speculation. But speculating with the help of research results is the best and justified. So it could be said that the most difficult part of investing is actually gathering information in the context of the research itself. And sometimes we also compete to get information faster than anyone else. Because those who are the most late in getting information are definitely those who are late in entering into the investment itself. So it is not surprising that there are paid services to collect information to meet these needs. But I prefer to research in my own way and that can train my own thoroughness. And there is a strong feeling of satisfaction when we manage to get information faster than other people.

On the other hand, I am the type of investor who is not good at doing research, so I prefer to choose coins that are safe to invest in, namely Bitcoin. the difference is that I do research on price action, so that when the price decreases I can buy it, or when I have more money then I buy bitcoin whatever the price, especially when the bearish season comes, of course there is not much consideration in buying it

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Quote from: shawonngp on December 03, 2023, 12:59:46 AM

In the early stage of my investment when i was new investor i got big support from my family members and i started invest. But now i am in third category because i like to invest with deeply researched, it can be crypto investment or other offline in real life investment.

I am also closer to the category of investors who act based on research results. Because without research it is carelessness and speculation which is clearly not true. It's all speculation. But speculating with the help of research results is the best and justified. So it could be said that the most difficult part of investing is actually gathering information in the context of the research itself. And sometimes we also compete to get information faster than anyone else. Because those who are the most late in getting information are definitely those who are late in entering into the investment itself. So it is not surprising that there are paid services to collect information to meet these needs. But I prefer to research in my own way and that can train my own thoroughness. And there is a strong feeling of satisfaction when we manage to get information faster than other people.

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Ya. According to the descriptive concept, I am a research type of investor, I love bitcoin but also research altcoins to increase profit opportunities. That also helped me learn a lot of experience in risk management, portfolio and asset management. In the era of crypto macro development and constant change, it is necessary to research to invest with the right goals.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 01:54:04 PM

What class of an investor are you?

i am:

Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 01:54:04 PM

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

The Wealthy Trader
This one has had a number of profitable investments over the years. They are knowledgeable, experienced, show expertise.

even if i love bitcoin i wont invest near a ATH i wait for the correction.. people can only know when a ATH is happening if they do their research
buy low sell high.. is the best rule to follow. do your research to see if price is at a cycles low mid or high

gold is at total history ATH so not a good time to buy at all

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Quote from: angrybirdy on December 02, 2023, 11:59:39 PM

Quote from: Ben Barubal on December 02, 2023, 10:50:22 PM

Being an investor is one of the best ways to make money or earn money, as long as the investment you make is right. Because if you are a class of investors who only spend money and don't think carefully about the investment, your capital investment will be wasted.

That's why we should be wise investors and don't be like investors who are always scammed by scammers, but other investors don't really have anything to bring; they should learn, of course. That's why I'm researching coins to invest in here in the crypto space.

Precisely! Being an investor, your goal is to achieve your expected value of your investment. before you consider to invest, first thing that you must to do is to make a research about the project that you want to invest, analyze and make a study about it so that the money you will put in it will not be wasted in the future. If investment is your forte, for sure that you already experienced being scammed by others, it really happens to a new investors because they are quick to believe even without sufficient explanation and evidence about the project and that's one of the main reason why pioneer investors already know what they are going to do prior investing their money in a prospect project.

It would be unwise to dabble into a new project and not understand what you are doing, this will easily waste your money. Investment/trading and any other avenues that give money need learning, and not only that, the person must assess the level of capital needed, the risk involved and the time it would consume. These are some of the vital factors that affect any investor and trader, and must be some of the criteria to consider before opting for any one.

Personally, I trade and invest in multiple assets and I believe that everyone could try their best in them too no matter how they view them. As we have said, learning is key, and it's until we learn that we will definitely know if we are fitting for a certain trading/investment class or not, not that we will just choose and let the rest be, all must be considered and known for the best decisions. By the way, you may consider this as extra advice.

However, for the scamming aspect, well, it is the person who wants himself to be scammed in this regard. The world is exposed enough that we should know the right channels to go. A simple research of the right companies/persons to use shouldn't be too cumbersome for any intending investors/traders.

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I just noticed that most of us here are really researcher investors, and that is the truth, and we should be active crypto community traders in this industry. But I didn't notice that there are any Ponzi investors here, or maybe no one wants to admit it.

But most are also new investors, and there will be more newbie investors as we approach the halving and bull run next year, that's for sure. Many investors will chase once the plane takes off or the ship's anchor is lifted.

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I can't be sure about this as I don't want to come off as someone that toots their own horn but I would say that I'm the kind of investor that's going to be making a lot of profit because I deal in the long-term when I invest in something and in the case of bitcoin, I see the potential that it have and I don't like the idea that I will be missing out on bitcoin again, I had the opportunity when it was cheaper, not going to let that slip away ever again.

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Quote from: shawonngp on December 03, 2023, 12:59:46 AM

In the early stage of my investment when i was new investor i got big support from my family members and i started invest. But now i am in third category because i like to invest with deeply researched, it can be crypto investment or other offline in real life investment.

I think you should be at third category from start because investigation prior to invest is a suitable option but perhaps you learn from your losses and now you are investigating about different coins. Investigation is not a bad thing but if you are spending much more time on Investigation then I think you will hardly find the accurate decision on time because now market is going to pump and if your Investigation ends you will have lost this better chance of earning.

There is no need to investigate about bitcoin so you can invest easily and quickly in bitcoin without any worry because the price is hitting higher value rapidly so soon we will see another highest price. One should must think deeply before investment because money does not come easily so if we are making an investment then we should also think about risk and if we can handle the risk then we can also take the profit but don't be too late if you want a bitcoin investment.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 04, 2023, 05:16:18 AM

Quote from: angrybirdy on December 02, 2023, 11:59:39 PM

Quote from: Ben Barubal on December 02, 2023, 10:50:22 PM

Being an investor is one of the best ways to make money or earn money, as long as the investment you make is right. Because if you are a class of investors who only spend money and don't think carefully about the investment, your capital investment will be wasted.

That's why we should be wise investors and don't be like investors who are always scammed by scammers, but other investors don't really have anything to bring; they should learn, of course. That's why I'm researching coins to invest in here in the crypto space.

Precisely! Being an investor, your goal is to achieve your expected value of your investment. before you consider to invest, first thing that you must to do is to make a research about the project that you want to invest, analyze and make a study about it so that the money you will put in it will not be wasted in the future. If investment is your forte, for sure that you already experienced being scammed by others, it really happens to a new investors because they are quick to believe even without sufficient explanation and evidence about the project and that's one of the main reason why pioneer investors already know what they are going to do prior investing their money in a prospect project.

Maybe I'm the only one here who doesn't know which type of investor to classify myself as. Because as a person whose economic condition is not very stable, you can still do research if only to determine where to safely drop money. And on the other hand, I also sometimes take high risks by betting on dropping money into one of the fairly new projects. 50:50 I consider it a gamble to get some important lessons from one type of investment to another. For me, the challenge is to be willing to take risks when other people are afraid to enter and conversely, I avoid risks when other people are aggressive in investing. As for investors, Ponzi schemes are the thing I avoid the most and don't want to touch. Maybe I think Ponzi Scheme Investors are loan sharks who at any time will take the opportunity to harm other people on a large scale.

If we do really just tend to look or zoom out, whether which one you would really be dealing with, it would really be basically be needing up those kind of research exempt into those ponzi investors on which it is basically you are trying to put yourself in harm knowing these ponzi are scams in the first place. Then why you would really be putting up yourself on such condition if you do really know on where it would be going?
For the sake of risks taking then it wont really be that worth because of the risks involved which it isnt really that something recommendable specially into those noobs who are really that aiming for fast income or money which they are really that putting themselves on great danger.

For those wealthy investors then they wont really be that able to reach out that condition for nothing, of course they are already reached up the pinnacle of success when it comes to investment
on which it did really come into a point that you dont have already problems when speaking about capital and multiple income source.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 26, 2023, 01:54:04 PM

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

Yes, of course this will be my choice, before we put the money we have saved so far, we divert it to an investment. Of course, everyone will definitely research first how the prospects for that investment will develop. If you are sure about this investment, for example Bitcoin, you have studied the Whitepiper white paper and studied how the Blockchain system works. Of course, I will invest in these assets, of course I will do DCA every month, especially as we entered the bearish phase yesterday, of course it will be an opportunity to double your money.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on December 02, 2023, 11:59:39 PM

Quote from: Ben Barubal on December 02, 2023, 10:50:22 PM

Being an investor is one of the best ways to make money or earn money, as long as the investment you make is right. Because if you are a class of investors who only spend money and don't think carefully about the investment, your capital investment will be wasted.

That's why we should be wise investors and don't be like investors who are always scammed by scammers, but other investors don't really have anything to bring; they should learn, of course. That's why I'm researching coins to invest in here in the crypto space.

Precisely! Being an investor, your goal is to achieve your expected value of your investment. before you consider to invest, first thing that you must to do is to make a research about the project that you want to invest, analyze and make a study about it so that the money you will put in it will not be wasted in the future. If investment is your forte, for sure that you already experienced being scammed by others, it really happens to a new investors because they are quick to believe even without sufficient explanation and evidence about the project and that's one of the main reason why pioneer investors already know what they are going to do prior investing their money in a prospect project.

Maybe I'm the only one here who doesn't know which type of investor to classify myself as. Because as a person whose economic condition is not very stable, you can still do research if only to determine where to safely drop money. And on the other hand, I also sometimes take high risks by betting on dropping money into one of the fairly new projects. 50:50 I consider it a gamble to get some important lessons from one type of investment to another. For me, the challenge is to be willing to take risks when other people are afraid to enter and conversely, I avoid risks when other people are aggressive in investing. As for investors, Ponzi schemes are the thing I avoid the most and don't want to touch. Maybe I think Ponzi Scheme Investors are loan sharks who at any time will take the opportunity to harm other people on a large scale.

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I am a new investor but family members who do not support many families to contribute a small amount of money to your company. Nowadays most of us have a chaotic family life we are always defending our ideas. Which is one of the reasons for disagreement among family members. The main goal of a business organization is to surpass all other organizations and reach the pinnacle of success. If the family creates problems practicing this kind of mentality will have an adverse effect on the family.

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