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October 04, 2023, 02:26:13 PM
The biggest problem I feel is that when newbies come into the trading market, they come into the market with zero knowledge because they don't know what they are going to gain or lose. In this case, since most people are new, they start trading on seeing others and at some point lose their original money and go back to the previous situation. This problem is a long-term problem and its solution is also a long-term solution. If one wants to operate a trading for a limited time then my opinion is that he should not start In that because if he does not know about the background then he will never succeed in that.
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October 04, 2023, 02:13:07 PM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
His/her decisions.

I'm not expert in trading, but I tried trading already, and I believe that the reason why I lost most of the time with my trades is my trading decisions which often leads me to losses. A win trade means you had a good decision, and vice versa. How can it be solved or stopped? I don't think there's any way to stop it aside from learning from your past experiences. Experiencing it first-hand would be better because you can adjust, and make better decisions in the future. If you experience winning, you might stick to that strategy, and if you lose, you will make some adjustments, and better decisions.

Overall, it's psychological like you said. The problem is yourself, and the only solution for that is to fix yourself as well.
I have to agree on this. There’s no stopping from your losing experiences in trading, because whether we like it or not, trading has its own inevitable losses as well, even pros and veterans have their fair share of losses too. However, if we are in consistent losses, probably there’s something wrong with the way how we trade. With how we make our trading decisions. If you stick with your trading decisions, then nothing will change, you will still be losing most of the time. I suggest you start assessing yourself as a trader and try to learn new skills and strategies as well in trading. Maybe that will at least help you to change your trading decisions and your trading mindset as well.
Its simply inevitable!

There's no way that someone cant really be able to experience losing because this is something that you would really be able to experience along the way even if you are already that experienced or professional on this field on which you could really be definitely be experiencing losing but the most important thing that despite of those losses is that you could really be still ending up on being profitable because
this is one of the most important thing that you would be needing to consider because if you do find yourself that not really much making some winning trades and losses is more than
with your winning then you would be finding definitely yourself in negative.

This is why its really that important that you should really know on how to adopt and be versatle and making learnings out of those mistakes that you had experienced.
We know that mistakes are stepping stones on making yourself better. Its impossible that you cant really be able to point out those potential problems that did really
affect your trading.
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October 04, 2023, 12:58:14 PM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

Don't even think it would be for a month,  the win and lose situation I can say,  it would be for just some days but if I think about it for a month,  not sure at all. I was also being involved in this situation but not for that much time. A month is a long time even I had been in this situation for a week or just 6 days. Some people even didn't like that it repeatedly happens,  also I was doing it for 6 days,  I was not feeling happy in that situation and it was the matter of loss,  I was being in a little loss there after 6 days. So,  you are saying you did it for a month or so. How would you explain that are you were in loss? Or you were in win at last?

We can't stop this experience by our own will,  as trading is volatile,  so we could only applying trading strategies there. But can't think of to stop it. From time to time we get experience and should understand things in trading. Just carry on!
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October 04, 2023, 08:38:44 AM
i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.

It's a good practice to have a journal for your trade where you will note down every trade, its outcome, relevant comments for future references. I saw many professional traders use this kind of method to improve their trading skills and use their experience to be on the winning side of the market. However this helps a trader identify the mole in his strategy and change based on his goal.
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October 04, 2023, 07:59:43 AM
i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.
Well, he has to observe the trading experience he has done. Observation is needed so that he can be more thorough in understanding why he loses and why he wins in trading. And after that, the material collected from observation activities is then reassessed through evaluation practices and then draws conclusions and makes more mature trading plans. And this process sometimes doesn't work immediately. But there should always be lessons to be learned. So we will become more reliable traders.
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October 04, 2023, 06:32:06 AM
i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.
We have no reason to worry because some time we will gain while trading and some time we will lose. But if we want to trade we must have a good idea about trading then we can make profit from trading. Some times we make big mistakes due to our small mistakes.  We have to wear losses. So if we can trade with a good idea about trading, then maybe our losses can be a little bit smaller. We have to follow some rules for trading and then there may be danger for us.
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October 03, 2023, 05:52:41 PM
i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.
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September 16, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

It all boils down to the trader and his strategy, as a trade I don't think you have to always be on the same path of trading or using same style. Like you having a plan, different method of carrying out your day to day trading activities, if you find out that the loss and profit has a reoccurrence (in a way that's not favourable) then give it a pause and ask yourself what are you not doing well, if possible give it a break but not for too long just to figure out the problem.
I believe there's no trader that's going up and down in every trading he makes, there must be a change so if that happens is left for the trader to make amends and the problem might good away if it's handled properly.
Many things happen that are beyond our expectations in the course of trading, therefore we must be prepared for these things.
What you say is very true and indeed we also have to be able to control our emotions in trading to avoid bad things.
Regarding strategy, before trading we must have a strategy that will be implemented to take profits or other plans, but if something outside our control happens then we must be ready for that and also be prepared to carry out other strategies.
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September 16, 2023, 09:52:40 PM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

It all boils down to the trader and his strategy, as a trade I don't think you have to always be on the same path of trading or using same style. Like you having a plan, different method of carrying out your day to day trading activities, if you find out that the loss and profit has a reoccurrence (in a way that's not favourable) then give it a pause and ask yourself what are you not doing well, if possible give it a break but not for too long just to figure out the problem.
I believe there's no trader that's going up and down in every trading he makes, there must be a change so if that happens is left for the trader to make amends and the problem might good away if it's handled properly.
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September 08, 2023, 11:26:22 AM
Just because they made a profit and made a loss doesn't mean it was equal numbers neither. I mean you could make 5k profit and 3k loss, which means you are in 2k profit and that's the important part, you should be making as much profit as you possibly could from it.

You can still continue to make a loss time to time, like you can go one profit and one loss back to back, but as long as you profit more than you lose then it's fine and nothing is wrong with that. I get that it will not be simple, but it will at least exist to a point and you should be hoping that it will work for you in the end. I understand that some people worry about it, because they do not like to check the results of it, but it will happen without a doubt.

When profit is greater than loss then in such situations continue your business and in a same time try to learn about the reason due to which you loss money but when the situations goes opposite like your percentage of loss increases than wining percentage then it is alarming for you.

I think that if you made 2k profit in regular win and loss condition then people will not see this sum but they will focus more on their loss as loss is very hard to bear. Trading work only when you utilize all the possible gained knowledge and success does not occur quickly and suddenly but time is necessary to experience other important factors which you don't know before.

Trading will be easy for you if you follow the trading signals and involve yourself in discussion of groups about trading.
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August 30, 2023, 04:53:37 AM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such an experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Probably the reasons are - TA, ineffective strategies, too emotional, and greediness.
But I will tell you OP that this is really how trading looks. You can't make all day in profit nor think that you can earn a profit consistently but sadly, losing is still going to happen. And whether we like it or not, even if you are in trading for many years, nobody is exempted. And the best thing to do is work on your strategies and enhance our knowledge in order to raise our level of market understanding which could really have a huge impact in making TA.
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August 30, 2023, 04:33:10 AM
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
His/her decisions.

I'm not expert in trading, but I tried trading already, and I believe that the reason why I lost most of the time with my trades is my trading decisions which often leads me to losses. A win trade means you had a good decision, and vice versa. How can it be solved or stopped? I don't think there's any way to stop it aside from learning from your past experiences. Experiencing it first-hand would be better because you can adjust, and make better decisions in the future. If you experience winning, you might stick to that strategy, and if you lose, you will make some adjustments, and better decisions.

Overall, it's psychological like you said. The problem is yourself, and the only solution for that is to fix yourself as well.
I have to agree on this. There’s no stopping from your losing experiences in trading, because whether we like it or not, trading has its own inevitable losses as well, even pros and veterans have their fair share of losses too. However, if we are in consistent losses, probably there’s something wrong with the way how we trade. With how we make our trading decisions. If you stick with your trading decisions, then nothing will change, you will still be losing most of the time. I suggest you start assessing yourself as a trader and try to learn new skills and strategies as well in trading. Maybe that will at least help you to change your trading decisions and your trading mindset as well.
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August 29, 2023, 02:59:33 PM
...So the problem is we have to be able to restrain ourselves. And we should only enter into trades when we are truly psychologically prepared. should not be too excited but also should not be too lazy in making analysis and trading. Everything must be done quietly...
It is obvious that beginners want to earn a large amount of money as soon as possible. Therefore, they believe that if they open new orders more often, the faster their goal will be achieved. The fear of lagging behind the market movement leads to mistakes that entail the loss of money.
It's true, a lot of people, especially newbies, think that they need to make a lot of trades in order to earn a lot of profit that too in a very short period of time, and they ignore the fact that it also increases the chances of them making wrong trades and losing money which makes it completely useless to execute many trades. When you are earning $30 from 10 trades and then losing $20 in a single trade, it makes all your hard work go in vain.

The very first thing newbie investors need to keep in mind is that cryptocurrencies are not a get-rich-quick scheme and they need to keep calm, it can help them get financial stability but only if they try to understand things more clearly instead of rushing things and trying to make a quick profit.
Just let them on what their first impressions and believe could be on which they would really be soon realize on whats the reality of this field on which it never been that easy for you to deal with.
It is really that common that newbies would really be having that kind of impression in towards things knowing that it is really that first time. On the time that they would be having that actual experience
then these sentiments would really be changing and they would be able to adjust and act accordingly on how it would really be looking like. Occurrences of similar situations or results arent that shocking
on which you would definitely be able to experience it out along the way but it doesnt really mean that something.

The thing you should have in mind is to adapt and be versatile on whatever things that is facing on you. If you do find yourself that trading is really that hard then you should really just simply adjust
and do all your best and might on making yourself that sustainable because not all would really be that sustainable and able to survive this unpredictable space or market.
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August 29, 2023, 01:06:20 PM
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...So the problem is we have to be able to restrain ourselves. And we should only enter into trades when we are truly psychologically prepared. should not be too excited but also should not be too lazy in making analysis and trading. Everything must be done quietly...
It is obvious that beginners want to earn a large amount of money as soon as possible. Therefore, they believe that if they open new orders more often, the faster their goal will be achieved. The fear of lagging behind the market movement leads to mistakes that entail the loss of money.
It's true, a lot of people, especially newbies, think that they need to make a lot of trades in order to earn a lot of profit that too in a very short period of time, and they ignore the fact that it also increases the chances of them making wrong trades and losing money which makes it completely useless to execute many trades. When you are earning $30 from 10 trades and then losing $20 in a single trade, it makes all your hard work go in vain.

The very first thing newbie investors need to keep in mind is that cryptocurrencies are not a get-rich-quick scheme and they need to keep calm, it can help them get financial stability but only if they try to understand things more clearly instead of rushing things and trying to make a quick profit.
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August 27, 2023, 04:54:35 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
I think his trading strategy is not completely working, that’s why he is more into losses and some winnings lately. If he will continue to use it, probably there will be no changes in his trading outcome, but if he’ll develop a new and a more reliable strategy, he can start maximizing his profits and minimize his losing moments. Moreover, his trading habits might also be triggered. He should assess more of his trading habits and strategies so he can finally track the sources of his trading losses.
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August 27, 2023, 12:52:14 AM
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If a person is experiencing one day win and another day loss then I think trading is not beneficial for him because the loss and profit become balance and a person remains at that stage.

In my opinion an experienced trader do not face such situation because he knows how to manage the circumstances that are against his hopes and he learned all the things before taking step into trading so if a person is facing such situations then main thing is that he does not understand the market completely so he should stop trading here.

Trading is for getting success and work to handle every situations so if one is not able to maximize his profit then pausing trading for some durations and learn again will be suited good.
Just because they made a profit and made a loss doesn't mean it was equal numbers neither. I mean you could make 5k profit and 3k loss, which means you are in 2k profit and that's the important part, you should be making as much profit as you possibly could from it.

You can still continue to make a loss time to time, like you can go one profit and one loss back to back, but as long as you profit more than you lose then it's fine and nothing is wrong with that. I get that it will not be simple, but it will at least exist to a point and you should be hoping that it will work for you in the end. I understand that some people worry about it, because they do not like to check the results of it, but it will happen without a doubt.
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August 26, 2023, 04:56:00 PM
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One of the main causes for this claim that the crypto market is unpredictable is the winning and losing that happens in it. You win today but lose tomorrow. No matter how skilled a trader you are, you do not always win. Even if you are making money at one time, your greed and need for more money may prevent you from knowing when to stop. 

No matter if you make a profit or a loss for the day, you should always stick to and monitor the closure of your entry point. Many people fail to recognize when they should give up and try again the next day at that point. 

The way to get out of it is to learn when to quit even if you are at a win or loss. Don't deal as though tomorrow won't come to test your lucky charm.
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August 26, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
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Stop Loss (SL) That's how you manage your loss so that you don't lose a lot. And if you are loosing one day and making profit on the other, change your time frame. Take it to 3/4 day or weeks. Weekly opening trades and closing them will give you best results if you are struggling with day trading analysis. Putting a limit to your trades with stop loss will let you close the trade without making huge loss or even getting liquidated. It is a practice that will help you minimize your losses. So that you will be able to open a new trade with better options.

Or if that is happening repeatedly and affecting your life, then take a break. Change your strategy and analysis pattern. Come up with a new thing which will work according to the current market condition. Hopefully that will help you get rid of such trades. Or you can skip a day or two between trades to better understand the market. Remember, the more time you give the better results you will get from your analysis.
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August 26, 2023, 10:29:17 AM
#94
What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Trading is just like gambling which you can guarantee profit because you literally just speculating on the price by using indicators that use only previous data to give a prediction and doesn’t guarantee that it’s signal will really happened.

It’s common to experience lose and win repeatedly if you don’t have any strategy and just trading based on your feeling. Traders that consistently winning are those who analyze a certain tokens and familiarize on its behavior before they enter on any trading.
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August 26, 2023, 10:25:51 AM
#93
Skillingcash, a trading app that I installed one day from Seychelles company and started trading everyday. Darts, it was unexpected to see my results. I ended up spending more money than I was expecting. It’s very hard to keep up with trading if you are not controlling yourself and your emotions. I spent around $25 on Tesla shares on ended up losing the entire 100% amount in the daily market. It was so crazy experience for me that I ended up putting more money so that I can invest and acquire the losses. Though I was thinking that I will be able to recover it I ended up sticking those funds in middle of trades.

The problem is only with the emotions I guess. Nothing else can make us loop around it. Just personal experience. This could be entirely different for everyone.
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