Topic: What cryptocurrency is closest to my ideal? Monero? - page 3. (Read 3397 times)

I suggest that you do not buy any XMR (or any other currency) until you do a lot more research.  As others have pointed out there are some problems with some of the criteria you are looking for (for example in terms of how they may impact privacy or scaling).

I suggest you start by looking at this site with 100+ Q&A already

https://monero.stackexchange.com/

There are also 30 or so questions comparing Monero to other alternatives based on some of the criteria you specified:

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/cryptocurrency-comparison

If you have more questions, please ask them on Stack Exchange!

These two are in direct conflict with each other. A privacy protecting coin reveals no information about transaction amounts, and therefore cannot make fees dependent on them.

3 is really a bad idea...

 


you should always come and ask your questions on the main PIVX topic (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpivx-private-instant-verified-transaction-proof-of-stake-zerocoin-1262920), the devs are so gracious and kind, what ever the questions. But I hope that I will be able to answer you simply.

there was first a mining phase (PoW) like bitcoin or monero where the coin supply grew to (Max Coin Supply - PoW Phase: ) 43,199,500.

Then as you can see the coin went PoS (a few months ago) and since then the additional incremental supply is decreasing regularly to

PoS Phase 1: [blocks 259201-302399] 50 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 2: [blocks 302400-345599] 45 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 3: [blocks 345600-388799] 40 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 4: [blocks 388800-431999] 35 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 5: [blocks 432000-475199] 30 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 6: [blocks 475200-518399] 25 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (Complete)

PoS Phase 7: [blocks 518400-561599] 20 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system) (In-Progress) (where we just entered),

as you can see it's planned to go to infinity


PoS Phase 8: [blocks 561600-604799] 15 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system)

PoS Phase 9: [blocks 604800-647999] 10 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system)

PoS Phase X: [blocks 648000-Infinite]   5 PIV (90% distributed to staker and masternode - 10% available to budget system

Remember in PoS there are transactions fees but they don't go to stakers or masternodes, as such it's necessary to have a flow of new coins to get the system going. Actually there is around 1450 masternodes (http://178.254.23.111/~pub/DN/DN_masternode_payments_stats.html) and growing with a chance to get a "block" Expected Payment per Masternode: every 1.01 days. which means that the 5 would be splitt between the masternode and the staker meaning around 2.7 which is 0.027% return on your masternodes daily  (because the rate of splitting between staking and masternode evolves too).

the actual supply is 51833610 DNET with a return of 11 DNET daily per MN (of 10k). As you can guess all depend of the number of MN of stakers .

Good luck in your quest. again, Arvydas77 is into something with no1 . but PIVX as all it takes to be the real no2. will see as it's just the beginning.

Please join the main topic here, or the slack

i don't like the third point about the transaction fee being at %, because if i want to send a big amount i would pay a very big fee, like for example sending $1000 would result in $10 in fee, if you want to put 1% for the fee
The other point about pos vs pow, pow is better because it is backed by real power and electricity, pos just incentivate the dumping on the market, why holding if you get coins for free each day?

I have ideal of the combination of these:

1. Bitcoin - as a reserve of the world currency
2. Monero - as the most anonymous coin
3. Decred - the most advanced governance in crypto space
4. Dash - the best PR and marketing.
5. Magi (XMG) - the most friendly community.
6. Ethereum - the world supercomputer, smart contracts and dapps.
7. Waves - fiat gateways.

Yes, it was mentioned a couple of posts prior, and I did find it interesting.

I did have some questions about it though which remain un-answered:

Have you heard of PIVX yet? Seems like a very promising new coin... focuses on all the right things form fungibility to governance with a purpose... I dove in already and am loving every second of learning I am doing.

www.pivx.org will have a brand new re-branded website online in 10ish days so you'll be able to learn alot then without hunting everything down.. 

Thanks. I'll do more research on MaidSafe once its actually more released, i'll see how its going at that point, anything I research now i'll probably forget before its properly out.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/category/safepodcast

This guy made 33 podcasts about MaidSafe.  If you are interested you should watch them. But what is most confusing is that even he did all this I dont think he fully understand what Maidsafe is. Seems nooen was able to explain him so far.

Thanks everyone for the replies so far.

I am still mainly looking at Monero, I saw something called MaidSafe which looked interesting to me but isnt really "released" properly yet (cant host the files) and there is a surprising lack of info on this forum on it given how high in the market cap it is.

PIVX looks interesting, just need a bit more info on it and need to monitor it make sure it is climbing in market cap and coinmarketcap capitalization ranking.

Looks interesting, cant find out all the information i'm after about it though,

Is there a finite number of coins? According to the link there is a limit in the "mining phase" but on coin market cap the number of coins listed in circulation is higher than that number, and the thread goes on for 288 pages so its probably in there but I dont have time to read 288 pages lol....

Using bitcoin code means its not going to be as private as Monero with cryptonote and ring signatures correct? not the end of the world as long as it is private enough I guess but i'm not positive how private it is.

It is pretty small and obscure, so thats another issue, not a total deal killer but it is an issue none the less.

Certainly one to keep my eye on though

Is that like Monero but only for when we colonize the moon? i'm confused :S

I couldnt find it on coinmarketcap either....

(jk, thanks for the reply, still leaning towards Monero for now.)

I am too new to currencies to have realized scaleability was an issue. Obviously I want the thing to be fully scaleable up to and including replacing a national currency if it was called upon to do so (Venezuela i'm looking at you).

I'm not really too concerned about government scrutiny as long as the thing is secure and private enough to resist to a degree the scrutiny.

The past is the past in for me, not too worried about initial launches etc as long as all the fundamentals are right now.

I did look into Zcash prior to my inital post but rejected it for some reason, cant remember why, but I know its out. I'll have a look at Zclassic

Thanks for your reply.

There is no ideal coin.  It is not logical.  You cant be tallest and fastest man on Earth.  It is not mathematical possible. Each coins have advantages and disadvantages. So you need to think which advantages are more important over other advantages.  How coins will evolve. Some things cant be changed, some can easily be changed.

Most important in this stage is to have solid development. Without that even currently perfect coin would be worth nothing in few years time.

Monero.

#5 in market cap

No one can see what you're doing unless you let them.

Wanna know my balance? Nope. You can't.

Wanna see my a specific amount to a transaction? Nope. You can't.

Wanna see if you can find me? Nope. You can't.

Wanna not have to worry if your privacy function is 'on' or 'off' like other coins? Yep. You can.

Is every transaction private. Yep.

Functional(fantastic) GUI. Yep.

Can I increase my privacy level? Yep.

Can I have transactions process faster? Yep.

Monero.

MOONERO, NO SAY MORE

 

Hi, I think you identified most of the right attributes for a good altcoin.

In my view, you are missing 3 of them:
- Scaleability
- Risk of government scrutiny
- Intentions of the coin creators upon launch (slow start, private IPO, etc)

Your initial thought on Monero makes sense and I take it as good coin.
My concern with Monero is that:
- it won't benefit from any development effect of bitcoin as it is too different from it. All apps have to be developed from scratch which will take time.
- anonymity by default could be the kiss of death if the authorities want to ban anonymous coins. Any change of the algorithm would take years to be arranged.

Don't forget that Monero boomed because of Alphapay onboarding it.

You may want to buy MNR but you could consider others coins like Zcash (ZEC) or Zclassic (ZCL) that have:
- scalability
- optional anonymity
- in the case of ZCL only, no private IPO

Monero, Shadowcash, or Spectre, which used Shadowcash's code but improved upon it.  Those would be my choices based on your criteria.