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May 14, 2024, 11:23:34 PM
And now Elon Musk has been ordered to testify in sec investigation. It is for his $44 Billion purchase of twitter. 
It was after  the sec did sue him in October for not going to a interview for a investigation. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-ordered-resume-testimony-sec-210036746.html
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April 25, 2024, 01:43:21 AM
Well now this is something that Elon Musk did do good for twitter. It is planning to launch a tv app for videos.

It will be for uploading videos to the app just like on Youtube. It is for the idea to make twitter a free-speech 'video first' platform.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/23/x-is-launching-a-tv-app-for-videos-soon/

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April 09, 2024, 01:12:57 AM
Well did you see Elon Musk did say they will have the new Robotaxi in 4 months from now. There is not going to be any pedals or a steering wheel in it.

It will be a self driving car and not the new model 2 car he was talking about. For me he does not care if he lost so much money from twitter he is making lots from all his cars.

https://electrek.co/2024/04/05/tesla-robotaxi-unveiling-august-8/
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April 08, 2024, 11:29:16 AM
From my understanding, Twitter is not a t-shirt printing shop, but a large business, industry, media, corporation and it will take years and many years before we can really judge what he did wrong and what he did right. I can use other industry giant as an example - Apple inc. There are two completely different companies with different approaches before and after Steve Jobs. Notice how people talk negatively about Tim Cook and his management, however, their products are still most demanded on the market.
Twitter is relatively smallest social media compared to others but the users think the information shared is more credible than other platforms especially when it came from verified accounts. But Elon introduced verification for everyone for a subscription fee that backfired instantly and lost the share value but as of now other social media is following what he did for example Instagram took the same path of providing verification for payment and also they launched very similar in the name called threads.
Elon Musk's target public are the choleric political militants and jokes/memes enthusiasts. This way he grabbed the interest of people from all ages to his social media. Political matters bring a large public from 40 years old on, plus the fake news, conspiracy theories are really popular among the 50 years old and above. On the other hand, those memes made of scrappy and scribbled cartoons, without context on many cases, are popular among the teenagers and youngs. In the end, it's a very unproductive social media sustained by polemics, exchanged insults, lies and distorted conceptions of life, which inevitably takes anyone who consumes its content for too long into a severe depression.

Elon Musk himself finds himself in such polemics quite often. Just now he is playing the 'justice paladin' role by confronting a major judiciary member from brazilian supreme court on X for censorship and power abuse against brazilian citizens. These news keep the platform active and users engaged.
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April 08, 2024, 11:18:36 AM
From my understanding, Twitter is not a t-shirt printing shop, but a large business, industry, media, corporation and it will take years and many years before we can really judge what he did wrong and what he did right. I can use other industry giant as an example - Apple inc. There are two completely different companies with different approaches before and after Steve Jobs. Notice how people talk negatively about Tim Cook and his management, however, their products are still most demanded on the market.
Twitter is relatively smallest social media compared to others but the users think the information shared is more credible than other platforms especially when it came from verified accounts. But Elon introduced verification for everyone for a subscription fee that backfired instantly and lost the share value but as of now other social media is following what he did for example Instagram took the same path of providing verification for payment and also they launched very similar in the name called threads.

Let us put it this way, he has his own plans when he decided to acquire Twitter. We may not understand his motives, but definitely, he has his eyes when it comes to long-term plans for this social media channel because the money involved is huge. Do remember, he is a businessman, so we can't question his ability on this matter. Who are we to judge his decisions? He achieved something in this life that very few people can. So we don't need to be very pessimistic with his decisions.

If he bought Twitter from its former owner for such a huge amount of money, he must have done it with some important motive. When the social media Twitter was owned by the former owner, he appointed various officers or employees to his Twitter as per his wish, but since the owner has changed, new officers or employees may have been appointed based on his wishes and needs. If we thought that this was definitely a wrong move for Elon Musk considering that the new employee was hired on Twitter's current X platform, we'd be wrong. Elon Musk wasn't wrong in his decision and we certainly wouldn't look at his decision differently if he changed the name and changed various features after purchasing Twitter and more updates are coming.

As the new owner, he has all the privilege to do what he thinks is best for his company. Now, if people are against with him, then get out of the company and find a new job. Or better yet, buy or create your own. But we can't tell a person that he is doing something wrong with his company because we have no idea about his future plans and all the other things related to its developments.

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April 08, 2024, 10:33:34 AM
From my understanding, Twitter is not a t-shirt printing shop, but a large business, industry, media, corporation and it will take years and many years before we can really judge what he did wrong and what he did right. I can use other industry giant as an example - Apple inc. There are two completely different companies with different approaches before and after Steve Jobs. Notice how people talk negatively about Tim Cook and his management, however, their products are still most demanded on the market.
Twitter is relatively smallest social media compared to others but the users think the information shared is more credible than other platforms especially when it came from verified accounts. But Elon introduced verification for everyone for a subscription fee that backfired instantly and lost the share value but as of now other social media is following what he did for example Instagram took the same path of providing verification for payment and also they launched very similar in the name called threads.
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April 08, 2024, 05:17:18 AM

Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully. 

Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.

Spot on. He most certainly thinks long term. Most of the funds collected came from people/companies who trust him, they still do.
he bought twitter on a whim anyway, he probably trying to find a company that could raise his influence and win the trust of people through various means and twitter is definitely one of them even if it tanked in valuation its not gonna do anything, elon not gonna sell it so its really just unrealized floating loss for him unless he sold all his stocks he won't be regretting his own decision moreover its such a good way to advertise for his own company, even if the advertisers are going out of the platform he himself find a way to still make money through various means one of them is through the blue or gold ticker that arguably make scams and fake account more flourishing which definitely is its disadvantage but it does give profit to twitter.
hopefully though he can sort out whatever problem in the platform, many people are already tired with twitter and its current state nowaday as a den of scammers with their fake account purposefully created for phishing people.
if elon could overcome this problem, the valuation of twitter might increase again in the future it matters of his own decision to make twitter a better place.
After showing interest at one time but when he refuse to buy he has to face legal complications and he was forced to buy Twitter. But since he took over, Twitter has changed. Firstly Twitter's staff layoffs and changes in CEO and there various outlandish and unreasonable claims such as giving fodder to a Twitter user took a variety of motives which became a source of frustration for users. Moreover, there are many users who switched back to different platforms. But when he realized he expressed interest in making it user friendly again. Currently, Twitter's system is working successfully to stop fake accounts. The fraud trap that used to be created by fake accounts on Twitter has now been reduced to a fraction. His efforts are gradually working to make this platform more popular.
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April 08, 2024, 04:42:20 AM
If he bought Twitter from its former owner for such a huge amount of money, he must have done it with some important motive. When the social media Twitter was owned by the former owner, he appointed various officers or employees to his Twitter as per his wish, but since the owner has changed, new officers or employees may have been appointed based on his wishes and needs. If we thought that this was definitely a wrong move for Elon Musk considering that the new employee was hired on Twitter's current X platform, we'd be wrong. Elon Musk wasn't wrong in his decision and we certainly wouldn't look at his decision differently if he changed the name and changed various features after purchasing Twitter and more updates are coming.
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April 08, 2024, 04:12:30 AM
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided
you have all the rights to criticize that troll mate so act as human, your points are all valid and that shows how stupid this person is, kicking many employees and replacing with bots? that is inhumane act because tweeter is performing well before he bought it  maybe the company sees an offer that they cannot refuse so they sold the company .
and about the hearsay of selling X? then that shows how or what kind of person He is.
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April 08, 2024, 04:01:57 AM
From my understanding, Twitter is not a t-shirt printing shop, but a large business, industry, media, corporation and it will take years and many years before we can really judge what he did wrong and what he did right. I can use other industry giant as an example - Apple inc. There are two completely different companies with different approaches before and after Steve Jobs. Notice how people talk negatively about Tim Cook and his management, however, their products are still most demanded on the market.
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April 08, 2024, 03:43:16 AM

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Many people find the changes after purchasing twitter which is annoying. He fired most of the employees working there after the purchase of the platform which went viral on social media. There are many who have a negative view of their projects. After purchasing the platform, he wanted it to be resold, but it was no longer made available for sale.

Elon Musk is a world-renowned businessman, he must carefully review any decision he makes because wherever he invests, it is never an ordinary investment. Since he has purchased it, he must continue to make every effort to profit from it. He will try his best on how to make it more user friendly. X Twitter is now known as X. Of course, many expect it to rise again in the future.
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April 08, 2024, 02:52:08 AM

Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully. 

Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.

Spot on. He most certainly thinks long term. Most of the funds collected came from people/companies who trust him, they still do.
he bought twitter on a whim anyway, he probably trying to find a company that could raise his influence and win the trust of people through various means and twitter is definitely one of them even if it tanked in valuation its not gonna do anything, elon not gonna sell it so its really just unrealized floating loss for him unless he sold all his stocks he won't be regretting his own decision moreover its such a good way to advertise for his own company, even if the advertisers are going out of the platform he himself find a way to still make money through various means one of them is through the blue or gold ticker that arguably make scams and fake account more flourishing which definitely is its disadvantage but it does give profit to twitter.
hopefully though he can sort out whatever problem in the platform, many people are already tired with twitter and its current state nowaday as a den of scammers with their fake account purposefully created for phishing people.
if elon could overcome this problem, the valuation of twitter might increase again in the future it matters of his own decision to make twitter a better place.
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April 07, 2024, 10:19:07 PM
More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert?

You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.

Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints.

One needn’t be a billionaire to criticize or have an opinion of the man and how he does things. And when  one openly states his opinion, it doesn’t equals jealousy.
It’s a bit weird seeing how people bend over to excuse the man and his actions.

I'm not making excuses for him or anyone because it won't help me make more money or become rich. My point is, if we don't like someone or a product, we can ignore it, why disparage or criticize it when we don't have enough money to own it? Just like bitcoin, there are many people who criticize and disparage it, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Besides those who criticize it, there are millions of others who still think bitcoin is divine, including me and you.

Those who like to criticize expensive products like Tesla, Iphone...but the interesting thing is that those people are the ones who don't have enough money to own it.

If you think Elon is bad at managing X, you can buy it and manage it the way you think is best. Or if you feel Tesla is trash, invent the best car yourself to show the world, LOL.
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April 07, 2024, 07:01:43 PM


Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints.

You seem unaware of the millions of people working administrations, in the Government, Private Industry, Venture capital firms, health care, insurance firms, and 1000 of other companies collecting salaries of US$ 5000 + Plus some plans, leasing and all other. In that world you go to the bank and get a credit, pay 10% and finance the rest.
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April 07, 2024, 08:40:59 AM
When you run publicly traded companie(s), one being a social media war zone (Elon stated just that, well before knowing he’d buy it, and mentioned he expected to get in to battles when he logged in..he’s a very verbal /controversial troll., by design. He knows how to suck people in to his web of attention seeking) then you’re more than fair game to be criticized, analyzed and critiqued up and down, left and right, daily. As one should be when they’re no longer in full control of the companies and there’s thousands to millions of other owners that bank on you doing well, literally. You don’t go public otherwise.
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Also no, I can’t afford a Tesla. I live in a box on the streets of Narnia. Signature campaign is what keeps me fed, also how I bought a wardrobe to get here. Could be worse.
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April 07, 2024, 08:12:44 AM
I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is.  I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man).  The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit.  Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc.  He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter.
You would really be having that kind of boggled mind on why people has always that something that has to say on whatever the decisions made by Elon, as if they do really knows on how to handle up a business or company on which whenever they've seen that those steps and actions been made out is against into their interest then they would really be directly be criticizing it on which it isnt really just that
they would really be shutting up their mouths and let those owners handle their own business. They are smarter than you and its their company in the first place and its none of your business
on what they would gonna do into their own company.

It is really just that simple on which if you dont really like on how they do act out then you could really always stop on using their service as simple as that.
Lots of bashes and criticisms but still ending up on using it. lol

Not sure why you are expressing such a frustration with the tendency of people to criticize the decisions made by individuals like Elon Musk, especially in the context of business and company management. The OP appears to believe that those who are not directly involved in running the business should refrain from criticizing the decisions made by its owners as the owners are perceived to be smarter and more capable than the critics.
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April 06, 2024, 07:12:12 PM
I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is.  I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man).  The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit.  Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc.  He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
I doubt that his fans never see him as he is though. I remember when i hadn't done any research about him, and i actually thought he had good pretty good pr. And i totally saw him as an iron man. Like did marvel as well, by putting him into iron man movie. But after he called that diver who was part of a team that saved those kids from a cave a pedo, i started to wonder what kind of man elon actually is. If he had shut up, he still could enjoy that legendary status, but then he opened his mouth more.

So i had to look more closely, and to my surprise, all i found was more smoke and mirrors. Man buys companies, and doesn't design anything. If anything he tries to act like steve jobs and order people around telling to cut costs and safety and just do stuff. He wanted to be be known as founder of tesla, even if he really wasn't, and some kind of rocket engineer even when he wasn't. His big ideas seemed to be childish and way he talks about science is just amazingly dumb. I have seen actual scientist explaining stuff and when people know what they are talking about they don't try to evade subjects and speak as vaguely like elon.

I had to sell my twitter account because of his bigotry and right now he is just retweeting extreme rightwingers and rumors with texts like "conserning" or "interesting" and no research or sources seem to be needed for the stats he is interested in.
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April 06, 2024, 05:58:02 PM
More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert?

You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.

Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints.

One needn’t be a billionaire to criticize or have an opinion of the man and how he does things. And when  one openly states his opinion, it doesn’t equals jealousy.
It’s a bit weird seeing how people bend over to excuse the man and his actions.
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April 06, 2024, 03:23:08 PM

Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully. 

Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.

Spot on. He most certainly thinks long term. Most of the funds collected came from people/companies who trust him, they still do.
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April 06, 2024, 08:27:06 AM
I don’t have a twitter / X account, I’d never buy a Tesla as half of them are shit, I wouldn’t buy is solar panels as they are ripe with issues etc etc.



More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert?

You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.
Criticisms would really be that normal but on the time that it already crosses up the line then it would really be that something understandable that it is really that out and something that viable or something right.

We do know that there are positive and negative criticisms but its true that when jealousy hits big time then this is where you would really be spitting out some non sense words towards a particular thing
and this time we are talking about Elon and on the ways he handled out Twitter which is now "X". Yes, we did see such changes but we do really know that still there are tons of users who do make use of it.
He had imposed that checkmarks but still there are ones who are willing on paying up for the subs.

Its impossible that these billionaires arent that wary on the actions that they are taking. They wont really be able to reach out such state if they werent that good enough
on business decisions.
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