What did elon do wrong in Twitter - page 9.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 04, 2023, 05:32:00 AM

It's only those who have done something for the world can talk about Elon Musk, you can't be a empty barrel and come out in the open saying that this man ruined Twitter or something, line what the hell did you know anyway?

People who frequently utilize the application could also have opinions about how good or bad the app has gotten. You don’t need create something useful for the public or to solve the problems of the world to have opinions of how something should be run.
For you, Elon may have done something good for the world, it should be noted that his actions are first in his best interests. He’s a business man after all and would obviously want to profit from any venture.
Even empty barrels have the freedom to express their views.

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Quote from: bakasabo on August 28, 2023, 09:15:37 AM

First, before discussing what Elon did wrong to twitter, we must understand what is righr for twitter? You dont like that employees were fire, but what if bots are more effective? You say that the app is boring. But it has barely changed. We still write post and insert pictures and smiles into it. Like 3-6 years ago. Turns to be that it was boring before Elon bought it. Right?

Elon bought and owned it so he knows what is right or wrong for it. We can't do much about his decisions and if we don't like it, then we are free to leave. I only don't know if what do you mean by " what if bots are effective "? But the bots effectiveness can depend on the ability of the people who deploy them. Ever since Elon obtained Twitter/X, a lot of things have changed and it doesn't stop there.

Elon is doing his best to produce a lot of profit out of it and maybe to make it look better for some users? For me, I love the old Twitter compared to this new one ( X ) but like I said earlier, what can I do? Nothing, but I still continue using it.

Yep, our opinions don't really matter to Elon as he can do anything he want since it's his company. Elon is fond of AI, bot and other autonomous technology and it's pretty obvious (Tesla). I think the way that twitter work nowadays is fine and not much changed in user experience aside from the payment for that blue check. No matter how Elon change the twitter, for sure we will still use it unless we will change platform. I wonder why there aren't any twitter like crypto social media that is actively being used nowadays. I believe that there's a lot of project that has a social media products, why aren't anyone that had succeed so far.

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Quote from: bakasabo on August 28, 2023, 09:15:37 AM

First, before discussing what Elon did wrong to twitter, we must understand what is righr for twitter? You dont like that employees were fire, but what if bots are more effective? You say that the app is boring. But it has barely changed. We still write post and insert pictures and smiles into it. Like 3-6 years ago. Turns to be that it was boring before Elon bought it. Right?

Elon bought and owned it so he knows what is right or wrong for it. We can't do much about his decisions and if we don't like it, then we are free to leave. I only don't know if what do you mean by " what if bots are effective "? But the bots effectiveness can depend on the ability of the people who deploy them. Ever since Elon obtained Twitter/X, a lot of things have changed and it doesn't stop there.

Elon is doing his best to produce a lot of profit out of it and maybe to make it look better for some users? For me, I love the old Twitter compared to this new one ( X ) but like I said earlier, what can I do? Nothing, but I still continue using it.

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Quote from: STT on September 04, 2023, 08:55:25 AM

It hasnt fallen yet, to turn a ship around you must first come to full stop. Its quite possible in 'fixing' any apparent flaws in the business it might be that he has to risk this appearance of failure at least. I think its been said the platform continues to gain users, its only the doubts of advertisers that promotes the idea he has failed in some way.
I should add its not just quantity but the demographics of your userbase that can bring an advertising premium, I would probably use that to judge Elon Musk's tenure and if his emphasis on quality vs bot traffic he complained about is true.

Honestly, I don't understand what people who are a little cynical about the changes made by Elon on Twitter are saying. Even though so far I think Twitter is planned to be a much more useful social media. Not just a place to vent and advertise products. But it will also become a social media that supports cross-border payments. And even now Twitter users can also earn income by becoming premium users. The point is that many positive things have also continued to emerge after the changes made by Elon. It's just that not many publish it. I think people have to start being careful what they say. Because indirectly they can defame the good name of the Twitter owner himself. talk about reputation. Recently Elon Musk or X is also suing the ADL for defamation.

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Quote from: STT on September 04, 2023, 08:55:25 AM

It hasnt fallen yet, to turn a ship around you must first come to full stop. Its quite possible in 'fixing' any apparent flaws in the business it might be that he has to risk this appearance of failure at least. I think its been said the platform continues to gain users, its only the doubts of advertisers that promotes the idea he has failed in some way.

thats true but I doubt that the platform itself is gaining any users though, its more or less the same or even less userbase than it was before acquired by elon for the simple fact that elon is trying hard to get rid all of those bots accounts that might affect the platform itself.
but I do somewhat agree that to turn ship around you must first come to full stop in this case elon has given good business decision that helps him tremendously in term of gaining that money that was spent for acquiring the platform through method of subscription to their twitter plans, added with the fact that he's trying to give back to the community by giving some kind of money earning method for those influencers.
good solution coming from him I guess, despite the fact that there are bad critiques about the decision he's making right now.

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Quote from: STT on September 04, 2023, 08:55:25 AM

It hasnt fallen yet, to turn a ship around you must first come to full stop. Its quite possible in 'fixing' any apparent flaws in the business it might be that he has to risk this appearance of failure at least. I think its been said the platform continues to gain users, its only the doubts of advertisers that promotes the idea he has failed in some way.

As long as there are still many users for the Twitter platform, the social media platform will continue to run and I also agree with you on this because when a platform has not stopped operating and there are still many users who enjoy using it, it means that Elon Musk still cannot be said to have failed in this matter. Even though advertisers say otherwise because they also want to make it easier to stick ads in order to be able to make profits through the platform.

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It hasnt fallen yet, to turn a ship around you must first come to full stop. Its quite possible in 'fixing' any apparent flaws in the business it might be that he has to risk this appearance of failure at least. I think its been said the platform continues to gain users, its only the doubts of advertisers that promotes the idea he has failed in some way.
I should add its not just quantity but the demographics of your userbase that can bring an advertising premium, I would probably use that to judge Elon Musk's tenure and if his emphasis on quality vs bot traffic he complained about is true.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 04, 2023, 04:29:24 AM

If you actually use Twitter/X now and you are one of the million simple users of the platform who just likes to tweet and stay updated regarding news and whatnot, you will not feel the changes Elon applied (aside from the UI being darker and the name).

See, what people don't see is X is still in the midst of changes and a lot of updates have yet to be settled. Elon Musk bought Twitter for a reason and to do something with it, we all just need to see and wait.

I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would think that X sounds okay when Twitter is the perfect name for it. He gave his kid an absurd name which goes to show that he isn't great at naming stuff.

Also, billionaires like Musk don't really need reasons to buy anything in this world. Think!

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Quote from: posi on September 01, 2023, 01:08:08 AM

Quote from: mindrust on September 01, 2023, 12:21:12 AM

Elon did nothing wrong.

He kicked them useless employees because they were doing more harm then good. They were democrat sjw’s and let’s be honest nobody likes them other than the other democrat sjw’s. I like the current state of twitter more tbh. It is a lot more entertaining and even DJT sent a new tweet lately which means x is on the right path. Elon did the right thing buying twitter. Now he can promote anything he wants without any fear of getting censored by any democrat fuckwits like Dorsey or zuck.

This is what he is preparing to upgrade for the social network Twitter, a full-featured social network that is essential to us. So what is Elon doing wrong? We don't even need anyone to praise him for what he does, but feel it through our own experience. He is trying to bring the best social platform for us to use for free, but I don't understand why so many people are always annoyed with everything he does.

I want to ask, who are complaining about him, do you use twitter? Or are you using Mark Zuckerberg's Threads? Cheesy

. The worst social network I have ever experienced.

Why do others always want to spread hate? You are very right why we keep complaining about the updates, and that update you posted is really good, which is less hassle to us because they don't require now numbers. Again, I don't idolize Elon, but his work is great, and he is the kind of person who wants humanity to have comfort. I rarely use Twitter as I am on other social media platforms, but I do sometimes question why we are using another app for messaging since it can only be added to one app, which is what Elon is doing.

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I am in no position to judge someone like Elon Musk, because since the day I was born I've never build anything that's useful for the masses, I always laugh at people who judge those who are 1000 levels above them, like what the hell?

It's too early to call someone like him (Elon) a dumb person because people like him always have their plans and goals, while worrying about if they do something wrong or right why not worry about ourselves?

It's only those who have done something for the world can talk about Elon Musk, you can't be a empty barrel and come out in the open saying that this man ruined Twitter or something, line what the hell did you know anyway?

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 04, 2023, 02:48:03 AM

Elon Musk is an overrated dude and he has literally proven that again and again. He is very intelligent for sure, but he is not some sort of celestial entity who turns whatever he touches to gold or something.

Twitter is one of those examples where he messed up big-time by trying to do something different which didn't sit well with the mainstream audience. His arrogance clearly screwed him over in this case.

Also, what the heck is X? He comes up with idiotic names for things/people. Twitter is way better in comparison.

Alright, this is more like a hate post for Elon Musk now. Yes, he made some questionable decisions but I really don't think everything he did after buying Twitter was bad. According to Elon Musk he chose the name X cause it is a symbol that pertains to imperfection that makes everyone unique and as the social media platform is use to present and express one's self then it's like stating that you can express your unique self there. Nevertheless, what Elon names Twitter or X doesn't matter as he owns it and it is not new that businessmen who buys already existing products and companys rebrands it to create a new image for them. If you actually use Twitter/X now and you are one of the million simple users of the platform who just likes to tweet and stay updated regarding news and whatnot, you will not feel the changes Elon applied (aside from the UI being darker and the name).

See, what people don't see is X is still in the midst of changes and a lot of updates have yet to be settled. Elon Musk bought Twitter for a reason and to do something with it, we all just need to see and wait.

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Elon Musk is an overrated dude and he has literally proven that again and again. He is very intelligent for sure, but he is not some sort of celestial entity who turns whatever he touches to gold or something.

Twitter is one of those examples where he messed up big-time by trying to do something different which didn't sit well with the mainstream audience. His arrogance clearly screwed him over in this case.

Also, what the heck is X? He comes up with idiotic names for things/people. Twitter is way better in comparison.

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I think one of the major mistakes that Elon Musk made with Twitter, was to try and monetize it too quickly. (Subscription option) .... because most people see Twitter as a "free" service. Roll Eyes

He also fired too many experienced people too quickly to make a statement. Roll Eyes

His motivation for this seemed to be to "clean" out the people that apposed his vision.... or those that supported the "old" Twitter.

The re-branding was also not necessary, because Twitter is a well-known global brand and it is a waste of money to market the new name. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: summonerrk on September 03, 2023, 03:54:51 PM

On the contrary, the Twitter community is one of the most influential in the world. And this is true, because ministers of different countries and presidents have been registered there, and there are also many official accounts of different campaigns that make quite official statements there.

That is why it's toxic: it's full of politicians and their followers spreading agendas and fake news to turn citizens against citizens for political gains and benefits, reaching a huge public.

I understand there is a positive aspect on this for presidents and ministers, that is to share news in real time with the country, but I think the negative aspect overcomes the positive one, because greedy people don't have any ethics or respect for the truth when they only seek for power at all costs. So the volume of garbage and lies posted there surpass the volume of worthful posts.

In the world we have today, ignorance and idolatry prevail, and X has become a perfect tool for spreading both...

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Quote from: uneng on September 03, 2023, 03:37:20 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 31, 2023, 11:26:49 PM

Now, I'm sure Elon Musk did think about these changes before he applied them, having his own reasons for even coming up with these ideas. However, from the backlash he is getting from a lot of users, I believe it was indeed better if we had built his own social media platform from scratch instead of buying Twitter that a lot of people already have an established opinion and experience using.

I believe what he did when bought Twitter was to buy a wide community of toxic internet users. He wants to be in direct touch with these people, because he knows how to feed them and keep them active virtually inside an environment they feel it's safe and confortable for them, while they generate traffic, engagement and lots of polemics through fake news, retarded memes, demotivating or extremist ideas and opinions regards the world.

Twitter or X is a pool of useless informations posted in real time which can lead someone to waste their whole day or life scrolling their feed with the content I mentioned above. Not that another social medias are much different from that, but I guess X has an extra pinch of sadism others lack, thanks to the 'genius' of Musk.

From a rational and unscrupulous point of view aiming only financial and influence gains, he did nothing wrong. It's working greatly for him...

I don't think Twitter (X) is too toxic a community, I've met a lot of gaming communities that I could call really toxic.
On the contrary, the Twitter community is one of the most influential in the world. And this is true, because ministers of different countries and presidents have been registered there, and there are also many official accounts of different campaigns that make quite official statements there.
Therefore, this is a great investment for Elon Musk, he has gained the power to manipulate in a place that allows him to manipulate the most unpredictable place on earth - the cryptocurrency exchange.

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Actively joked about buying twitter, when the executives are calling him out of his bullcrap he flinched, but they pressed on and even attempted legal charges against him which forced him to buy Twitter. Tried so hard to make money off of his most stupid purchase ever, that he started charging people for something that was exclusive and free back then which caused utter turmoil and chaos from fake accounts trolling the whole platform. When things died down he went ahead and made yet another stupid decision by rebranding twitter to X all because of his "X" obsession back in the days of Paypal and cause he's suffering from midlife crisis, which tanked the twitter valuation making it even more impossible for him to sell twitter should he decide to.

He basically trolled himself all because he wanted to look cool on the internet.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 31, 2023, 11:26:49 PM

Now, I'm sure Elon Musk did think about these changes before he applied them, having his own reasons for even coming up with these ideas. However, from the backlash he is getting from a lot of users, I believe it was indeed better if we had built his own social media platform from scratch instead of buying Twitter that a lot of people already have an established opinion and experience using.

I believe what he did when bought Twitter was to buy a wide community of toxic internet users. He wants to be in direct touch with these people, because he knows how to feed them and keep them active virtually inside an environment they feel it's safe and confortable for them, while they generate traffic, engagement and lots of polemics through fake news, retarded memes, demotivating or extremist ideas and opinions regards the world.

Twitter or X is a pool of useless informations posted in real time which can lead someone to waste their whole day or life scrolling their feed with the content I mentioned above. Not that another social medias are much different from that, but I guess X has an extra pinch of sadism others lack, thanks to the 'genius' of Musk.

From a rational and unscrupulous point of view aiming only financial and influence gains, he did nothing wrong. It's working greatly for him...

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Quote from: Thehallows on August 27, 2023, 08:30:41 PM

Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided

elon selling twitter? where is the official news that contains this news, Elon Musk deliberately bought Twitter because he saw Twitter as the most exciting social media platform and has active daily users in the world, different from other social media, so he won't sell Twitter easily,
but regarding Twitter users after the rebranding to X it went down, quite a lot was reported, even the decline became 4%, from what I noticed, Elon is currently trying to keep his users active on X aka Twitter by creating paid accounts for the content creators or accounts that have great appeal (influencers) and I don't think Elon is doing anything wrong about the business he is running, I just support him in his expertise in managing business and seeing opportunities but in the crypto world I hate him lol

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Quote from: posi on September 01, 2023, 01:08:08 AM

Quote from: mindrust on September 01, 2023, 12:21:12 AM

Elon did nothing wrong.

He kicked them useless employees because they were doing more harm then good. They were democrat sjw’s and let’s be honest nobody likes them other than the other democrat sjw’s. I like the current state of twitter more tbh. It is a lot more entertaining and even DJT sent a new tweet lately which means x is on the right path. Elon did the right thing buying twitter. Now he can promote anything he wants without any fear of getting censored by any democrat fuckwits like Dorsey or zuck.

This is what he is preparing to upgrade for the social network Twitter, a full-featured social network that is essential to us. So what is Elon doing wrong? We don't even need anyone to praise him for what he does, but feel it through our own experience. He is trying to bring the best social platform for us to use for free, but I don't understand why so many people are always annoyed with everything he does.

I want to ask, who are complaining about him, do you use twitter? Or are you using Mark Zuckerberg's Threads? Cheesy

. The worst social network I have ever experienced.

So true. Without having to be praised, Elon continues to make progress with Twitter. There may be a lot of news spread by Elon's competitors that makes Elon's good name sometimes questionable. But in reality Elon is a hard worker. He works more than he talks. And a few moments ago when the Threads application was launched. We see a lot of negative comments on Twitter. Many say that Twitter will lose the competition. But take a look now. Twitter even already has a license to pay with crypto if I remember correctly. So if Elon wants Twitter to be able to launch a crypto payment system then he just has to do it. Because it looks like he already has permission.

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Quote from: Thehallows on August 27, 2023, 08:30:41 PM

Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided

Elon Musk is a known business man who has loads of ideas on how to drive a business to success but I do not consider his approach to twitter the best as it has now become more restricted than it used to be and also somewhat different from what Musk initially intended for it to be. First was that he wanted it to be censorship free and free for all but now, the regulations in twitter is more than there ever was or intended.

I think Elon is trying to recoup his investment but he might be going about it the wrong way.

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