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August 28, 2023, 05:07:11 PM
#30
One of the mistakes of Elon Musk on twitter is that he decided to pay creators, it's good to the creators, but wrong for viewers or readers. The creators on twitter provide low quality information to earn the X ad revenue. Twitter is flooded with spam tweets from influencers seeking quick money. I'd say many people left twitter when he sold the verification for $20, but that won't be compared to the number of people that left twitter the moment he started paying verified users depending on the number of accumulated impressions. He is doing good by promoting free speech on twitter, but a lot of changes on twitter, like uploading long videos on twitter, also read somewhere that people can download videos on twitter, and the need to login before reading tweets on web, etc. He is a billionaire, so he tries anything he feels possible, not minding how twitter operated before he purchased the platform. I've not heard about his intention to sell twitter, not yet. That would have been a major headline news on blogs. 
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August 28, 2023, 04:38:49 PM
#29
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided
Doesn't matter though, I mean it's his business and he can do what strategy he thinks suit his new company. If he fires a lot of his employees and then give them money, then good for them.

Acquiring Twitter or X right now it's a good gauge how good Elon Musk is as a business. And with so many of his haters, for sure they are all praying that X would lost in the fight with Mark Z. But whatever, lesser of two evils?
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August 28, 2023, 04:34:28 PM
#28
Elon doesn't need the Twitter app, so he threw out the old management. He only needs its users... Remember how he negotiated the price when he discovered so many bots on Twitter? Twitter's value is significantly affected by how many active users are on the platform, not by how much money it makes. Now, suddenly "X" has the same amount of Twitter users. Shortly, he'll make another feature for X, not just for social media. He mentioned a "super-app" IIRC, probably like WeChat.

Well, I think that he is in for the long run... so he is probably trying to make a "super app". I saw his posts about "X-payments" and about "X phone". Elon is not where he is because he is stupid and makes stupid moves, he has some plans for sure, he surprised all of us more than once. So nobody knows what will Elon do, and how he will do something...  It's one of his strengths I guess, keeping the enemy clueless about his next move. I don't like Elon, but his bankroll speaks for itself, he is not doing anything just like that.
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August 28, 2023, 04:05:21 PM
#27
The only thing that I notice that people don't like about the decision of Elon Musk was that he took the decision of considering most of the old employees as irrelevant and showing them the way home, changing the name of the company that it's already been known for since its popularity, and making the Twitter platinum almost a compulsory thing for advertisers and big entities as they don't just need to pay for the 4$+ for normal platinum again but now 8$+ for all active features including the benefit of the blue badge.

The above are the things I think people saw as something wrong, which he has done, as the other benefits of buying the blue badge have increased the number of verified accounts trying to scam members on Twitter (X). But for the aspect of him phishing out bot accounts, which was dominating the space, I don't see that as something wrong.

And about the app becoming boring, I don't see it that way, as it's people like you and me who are the content creators on that place, and unless those making it fun stop posting, then I don't think the place is boring. And now that he has enabled paying content creators over their works, I think the place will be more fun than it used to be, as many other people will pick up interest in it as they will also want to earn from the space.
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August 28, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
#26
IMO changing the well known name of twitter to X was a bad move. We all know that brands grow with time and almost everybody in the world knew what twiter was until the name was changed. Musk ditched a decade of PR for promoting his own brand, since he has tesla model x, space x and now X (social platform).
People don't care about personal brands, but rather notice the legacy. Musk has none and he's putting it all on the idea of creating one that's completely owned by him.
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August 28, 2023, 11:43:42 AM
#25
Elon doesn't need the Twitter app, so he threw out the old management. He only needs its users... Remember how he negotiated the price when he discovered so many bots on Twitter? Twitter's value is significantly affected by how many active users are on the platform, not by how much money it makes. Now, suddenly "X" has the same amount of Twitter users. Shortly, he'll make another feature for X, not just for social media. He mentioned a "super-app" IIRC, probably like WeChat.
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August 28, 2023, 11:28:27 AM
#24
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided

I think it's all media BS.
Since Elon bought twitter, that app is 100x better.
I remember before, i never saw content i want, never got ads i want, doesn't matter who i follow, i had bunch of garbage and bots on my home feed!
After Elon bought twitter, i really see what i want to see, i get what i want.

I think he set long term goals because in my eyes that app is far better, bots are long gone, politics is not pushed on surface as before and content makers can now earn money from ads revenue. win-win
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August 28, 2023, 11:21:37 AM
#23
From the time that he acquired it and did a lot of talk about it publicly, that's when he started doing wrong about it. And with all of the adjustments, layoffs, and humiliating them publicly, that's the continuation of it. This gives the chills that whatever you do to others, it will also be back to you.
true with the massive layoffs that elon is doing, quite literally he did massive layoff without any delay I guess karma bites him but right now though it seemed that he's already found a strategy to get back all that money he previously spent in acquiring twitter though its at the cost of losing twitter users but the blue ticks and gold ticks badge has proven to be quite effective strategy that its even getting replicated by instagram.
in this regard I understand elon frustation about meta trying right and left copying whatever he has right now that even he tried to have fight in cage.
though right now thread, the imitation of twitter has never being discussed anymore the trend was rather shortlived honestly and maybe its just gonna be failing and people would latch onto twitter again like before.
after all people are already more familiar with it.
We can say that it's actually karma for him but even with that, he's still a rich guy that can do pretty much everything crazy that he wants. I remember when he fired one of his software engineers and then later on, he needed him back again so he offered him the job again. I don't know what would happen if the SE accepted the job again or put him on his ignore list. If he's willing to sell it lower than the acquisition amount, he's not really doing business on it and just wants to liquidate it because of frustrations through his mishandling and mismanagement. But I doubt it that he'd take a lot of loss and will just allow it to happen or maybe he's too desperate to do that.
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August 28, 2023, 09:42:03 AM
#22
From the time that he acquired it and did a lot of talk about it publicly, that's when he started doing wrong about it. And with all of the adjustments, layoffs, and humiliating them publicly, that's the continuation of it. This gives the chills that whatever you do to others, it will also be back to you.

Nobody really cares about that, and we just have to avoid him if we don't want to be in the loop of the game he often engages in.
Just for the clout and some info, many are concern not because they're concern but because we just wanna know what's happening and what will be the current situation of it in the future and that is because it's a big corporation and one of the most known companies out there.
true with the massive layoffs that elon is doing, quite literally he did massive layoff without any delay I guess karma bites him but right now though it seemed that he's already found a strategy to get back all that money he previously spent in acquiring twitter though its at the cost of losing twitter users but the blue ticks and gold ticks badge has proven to be quite effective strategy that its even getting replicated by instagram.
in this regard I understand elon frustation about meta trying right and left copying whatever he has right now that even he tried to have fight in cage.
though right now thread, the imitation of twitter has never being discussed anymore the trend was rather shortlived honestly and maybe its just gonna be failing and people would latch onto twitter again like before.
after all people are already more familiar with it.
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August 28, 2023, 08:59:20 AM
#21
From the time that he acquired it and did a lot of talk about it publicly, that's when he started doing wrong about it. And with all of the adjustments, layoffs, and humiliating them publicly, that's the continuation of it. This gives the chills that whatever you do to others, it will also be back to you.

Nobody really cares about that, and we just have to avoid him if we don't want to be in the loop of the game he often engages in.
Just for the clout and some info, many are concern not because they're concern but because we just wanna know what's happening and what will be the current situation of it in the future and that is because it's a big corporation and one of the most known companies out there.
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August 28, 2023, 08:15:37 AM
#20
First, before discussing what Elon did wrong to twitter, we must understand what is righr for twitter? You dont like that employees were fire, but what if bots are more effective? You say that the app is boring. But it has barely changed. We still write post and insert pictures and smiles into it. Like 3-6 years ago. Turns to be that it was boring before Elon bought it. Right?
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August 28, 2023, 08:08:47 AM
#19
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided
Nobody really cares about that, and we just have to avoid him if we don't want to be in the loop of the game he often engages in. For example investing in Twitter or memecoin which is often manipulated. There is no benefit whatsoever that we can get other than being a victim. We have to be aware from the start that if you are not a player with big money, don't go into the assets they hold. Regarding the workers who were fired and replaced by robots, don't you see that they have eliminated many jobs, maybe some are still unemployed because of their policies. Like it or not, Elon Musk doesn't care as long as he is still profitable and can control his desires, then we are just puppets. Therefore it is better to avoid things that involve him in the business world.
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August 28, 2023, 07:52:09 AM
#18
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided


You remind me of a sports fan who, watching a game from the couch, eating chips and drinking beer, yells at the TV that the football player kicked badly, gave the wrong pass and generally ruined the match because he... a professional beer bottle emptier... would do it better.

As for the statement that the application is more boring, I would like to remind you that the content on it is created by the community, not employees. Employees were supposed to take care of the stability of the platform (I did not notice any damage), filtering inappropriate content (I noticed an improvement). In my opinion, laying off 80% of employees is essential when taking over such a large corporation, because it usually turns out that they were spending most of their time in work by drinking coffee and there was no one to supervise it.

One day in the life of twitter employee


Platform X is owned by Elon and he has the right to do anything with it. But it's hard to understand how many people are trying to criticize or berate Elon like this or that...they think he's wrong but while they're just normal users and nothing of X. Those who criticize or disparage Elon only lead me to believe that they envy him because they don't have what Elon has.

In my opinion, if anyone feels this social network is boring and degraded, just exit and delete the application. Elon does not beg or force anyone to use X. These people should create their own social networks instead of whining and complaining about products owned by others.
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August 28, 2023, 06:08:58 AM
#17
I'm not sure if it is known news or just hearsay, but I have yet to hear any news or information regarding Elon Musk actively selling Twitter (now rebranded as X). As far as I know and based on his recent tweets, he is still gathering opinions and making public statements about possible changes he will add to the platform, like removing the Block feature from the messaging section. If you can, please link any article or news you have read this about so we have a proper source unless this is a personal claim.

There is no truth behind OP's words. He's spamming probably to bolster his posts and activity. First, it's not Twitter anymore but X. I also haven't heard about Elon Musk actively selling X. It's also fake news that Elon removed all the former employees and replaced them with bots.

People are quick to call Elon's acquisition of Twitter a failure. I guess most of these people don't even know that Twitter was already a losing company before the takeover. So it's dumb for the new owner not to make huge changes otherwise the company will stay having a negative net income. I actually believe that Elon will turn X into a successful company soon.
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August 28, 2023, 05:25:53 AM
#16
He invested heavily in buying Twitter. And of course someone like Elon Musk won't buy something without careful planning. I think Elon's journey with Twitter is still very long. I can't even say whether every step he took on Twitter was a mistake or not. Well we don't know that. Because we don't know what Elon's plan is behind all of that.

But I feel that Twitter users have recently started to increase again. So I think Twitter or X are still in pretty good shape. But if I want to give my opinion about Elon's actions on Twitter, it is that he was too hasty in making changes. Which makes users who are not used to leaving this platform. But there must be a reason behind it all. Because as I said, Elon doesn't seem like a careless person. He must have big plans that he must do immediately.
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August 28, 2023, 05:22:42 AM
#15
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided

Why not criticize him? He has dismantled large parts of what made Twitter great, because he overpaid for it without having a plan. He was a rich billionaire that used twitter to spread whatever ridiculous messages he had day to day. Sometimes they took moderation action that went against him and only by owning the platform could have make sure that would never happen again. He put an offer out there, not expecting for it to be accepted, but because he overvalued it so highly it was. At that point he took several steps to backpedal, but had no legal way to back out of the offer and would have been forced to buy it from that point on. So now he is stuck with a platform which is probably worth less than half what he paid in the last year and is just running random experiments on it at this point - like it's his personal project and not used as a valuable communication device around the world.
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August 28, 2023, 05:12:13 AM
#14
In my opinion he has committed and continue to commit a series of mistakes which have decreased the value of the company. The most obvious problems are the fact he tried to rebrand Twitter to "X" , when the blue bird logo and name were already part of the popular culture, they were pretty much established, but he did not care.

It would be as if Coca Cola decided to rebrand to "F", it does not make sense to ditch a name and logo which already worked very well.

Also, his plan of not allowing users to block others would only discourage regular users to spend more average time logged in, nobody wants to use a social media where there is no control on what you want to see or ignore.  Huh
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August 28, 2023, 05:04:56 AM
#13
We're not billionaires so we don't know what super rich people like Elon Musk are thinking. Maybe for us what he did was wrong, but maybe it would be right? the proof is that until now only a few twitter users have left Twitter, some are trying to get used to themselves with the changes made by Musk. So no matter what Musk wants to do with Twitter, all of us here cannot call it wrong, because we are not billionaires and Twitter owners.
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August 28, 2023, 04:48:02 AM
#12
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online. He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it . Don't mistake me I'm not trying to criticise the dude but i don't get why this happened for real his plan was nice trying to reduce cost of work . But what went wrong
Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided

The whole Twitter deal seemed crazy to me when Elon Musk paid so much money to buy the company. Couldn't be just build a better company from scratch with such kind of money? Anyways now he owns that huge company that is only losing money for him and Zuckerberg is trying to build the new company. Firing a lot of staff, cutting down cost and trying to rebrand the company seems like the equity 101 on how to make a company profitable and sell it on. However, the big investors usually keep the companies 3-5 years to really turn them around and sell them. It takes time for the financial statements to reflect the new situation and also for growth projections to be improve. I don't think there is anybody interested in buying Twitter right now at a higher price than what Musk paid. He is probably stuck with it for quite some time.
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August 28, 2023, 03:52:52 AM
#11
Wait a minute I used to think online is the next generation if your not going online your toast but elon musk just lost funds in Twitter trying to take it fully online.
Online, Twitter is always online since it was deployed to use except when their service is down technically that barely happens.

Fully online, what's this?

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He sacked almost all the employees ,replaced them with bots and now he is trying   to sell it .
Other big techs have to sack their employees to reduce cost of operations after pandemic effects become worse and the world has been in a economic recession.

Sell it, I did not know Elon is going to sell X.

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But what went wrong Twitter usage is really going down I think the app is more boring . What do you think we all know elon this might be another business Strategy right Undecided
If it is boring, you can stop using it and use Threads, Facebook, Nostr or stop using social media.
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