What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? - page 2.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 21, 2019, 03:02:34 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 21, 2019, 08:07:33 AM

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Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Did the report confirm he colluded with the russians or not? It didn't, therefore you must admit he is innocent, otherwise you are just a biased person and hate trump deeply for some reason. I don't know if it's all the NPC brainwash or what but USA isn't doing too bad after 2.5 years of Trump's presidency, no third world war yet.

Technically, a lack of a recommendation to prosecute is not a confirmation of no collusion or its opposite.

There's no "need to admit he is innocent," except that we should presume innocence. But the Trump haters don't, they presume guilt.

More importantly, what the evidence indicates is multiple attempts to entrap Trump staff and associates into the setup that would create the appearance of collusion, for the purposes of bringing down a sitting duly elected US president.

There are numerous indictments coming for these matters.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 21, 2019, 08:07:33 AM

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 10:51:11 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator. Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess. As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Did the report confirm he colluded with the russians or not? It didn't, therefore you must admit he is innocent, otherwise you are just a biased person and hate trump deeply for some reason. I don't know if it's all the NPC brainwash or what but USA isn't doing too bad after 2.5 years of Trump's presidency, no third world war yet.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 21, 2019, 08:07:33 AM

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 10:51:11 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator. Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess. As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Weird, almost like Trump is actually anti-establishment...

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who the hell cares?

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 21, 2019, 07:54:58 PM

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

I think a few people will believe it, are these investigations fair?
The judiciary has become dominated by politics, and according to the interests of the authority comes out the final decision,
The investigation will be in favor of the Democrats ..

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 21, 2019, 08:07:33 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 20, 2019, 12:00:38 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 10:51:11 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator. Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess. As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Actually, not so weird at all. Given how many Republicans hated Trump.

Here's Romney's anti-Trump speed from during the campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iefXdC794I

Here's a more balanced take on these issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0ze9d72_U

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 20, 2019, 12:00:38 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 10:51:11 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator. Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess. As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

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he just shit himself and made a lot of money.

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Quote from: Waradlain on April 20, 2019, 05:15:27 PM

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Quote from: Waradlain on April 20, 2019, 04:31:38 PM

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

Nothing else but PRESIDENT HARASSMENT in other words?

More like an incomplete attempted coup, and all the rats trying to cover their asses after the fact.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 20, 2019, 04:58:06 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on April 20, 2019, 04:31:38 PM

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

Nothing else but PRESIDENT HARASSMENT in other words?

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Quote from: Waradlain on April 20, 2019, 04:31:38 PM

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

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Quote from: Waradlain on April 20, 2019, 04:31:38 PM

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

The conversation was surrounding the impact of having a special counsel to his Presidency. It was being discussed that a special counsel will prevent Trump's presidency from getting things done, which is what happened. Trump also lost the political momentum that he had from being just elected.

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Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 20, 2019, 07:22:25 AM

Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:18:42 AM

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do...

True, but I'm still unable to unravel the phrase "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" as it relates to the situation.

The closest I can come is to consider the way Democrats and DC insiders tried to execute a coup. That certainly has not been accepted protocol, at least in the US of A.

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Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:27:03 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 20, 2019, 07:22:25 AM

Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:18:42 AM

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do...

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 10:51:11 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator. Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess. As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 20, 2019, 09:37:11 AM

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

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Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:27:03 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 20, 2019, 07:22:25 AM

Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:18:42 AM

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

It's not irrelevant, unless the unstated, poorly implied meaning behind "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" can be bent to make your point.

I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies.

This is a very puzzling opinion of yours, given that the subject is politics and political administration. I'm reminded of Jimmy Carter bringing all his cronies to Washington, but it's not just him. And conversely, Trump has put many, many people in place that certainly are not his "business cronies."

leaving that aside, maybe you can explain this? What is a "Cronie?"

Leaving that aside and looking at "fully manning the USA government with competent experts," I'm all for it. When do we start firing all the incompetent idiots now in the USA government?

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 20, 2019, 07:22:25 AM

Quote from: Fortify on April 20, 2019, 07:18:42 AM

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

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