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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

I honestly don't think that it's rigged but I think the house edge is much more than it should be. If they are going to rig their website, then how are they going to generate who's going to lose if they are supposed to win? It will be one complicated code. If it's just going to be random, then might as well just increase the difficulty of winning on their game instead of randomly cheating on people.

Gambling sites are already making a lot from their small "house edge". There's no need for them to rig their games at all. Maybe if they are going to rig the game, it's only for the high rollers and they wouldn't mind losing a couple of BTCs in total from the smaller players.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

casino are more prone to be rigged imho, instead dice game are in bitcoin from a longer time and are more legit, also we have very notorious people behind dice game like stunna, which is trusted, behidn casino site we have not super trusted member, but casino have on their side more fun, i like them more you have more choice

Provably fair system can be used for any casino game, not only dice. Casinos are NOT more prone to be rigged as long as they have the provably fair system implemented.
Rigging a dice game is as easy as rigging any other, because you're not playing against another human but a program, so all you have to do is tinker with it.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Due to House Edge casino is on the winning side of the deal here. Objectively speaking, it is better for the casino to offer proper, serious and trusted experience.
In the long run they will earn more money. But there is also the possibility that casino will try to mask their fraudulent activity and bet manipulation.
Lying is always risky, sooner or later someone will uncover the truth behind fraudulent bet manipulation.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 19, 2017, 12:19:35 PM

Quote from: bitbob82 on May 19, 2017, 11:25:42 AM

Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.

AFAIK genius cannot make profits from casinos, yes your degree will not get you opportunities to beat the house edge and lucky people may not find possibilities to become professionals. Hence I am not finding any chances for those people to be existing in real life. Making profits from casino might be possible only in fictional stories.

People who got inspired by rumors do develop greedy opinions about entire gambling industry and keep trying to copy those fictional stories.

Have you not seen the movie 21 about the MIT blackjack team which is based on a real story? People still do that, just saw a documentary about it recently.
Card counting isn't even illegal under US federal law. Casino's can ban you or try to prevent you from doing it, but you're not going to go to jail for it.

Just stating that what you're saying is wrong, a genius can definitely make money from a casino, legally.

This documentary is a must watch IMO:
The Player: Secrets of a Vegas Whale

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Don Johnson is known for beating three casinos in Vegas in a single night. In the documentary, Johnson explains his strategy, and admits he needed a little luck, but his winnings were mostly due to smart gambling.

In the documentary, the big whale player explains how he beat the system, and how he managed to turn the odds to his favor playing table games. As most veteran players know, it is almost impossible to win lot of money with table games, as odds are always stacked against you.

The theory explained in the documentary is simple, when casinos in Vegas and Atlantic City were down in popularity and money, they needed big name whales such as Johnson to play. They offered whales benefits, which Johnson used to take advantage of the system.

His system was simple, he managed to arrange a 20% refund every time he lost money, and by splitting and doubling, he managed to get up to $50,000 in free play. Using different methodologies, as well as scaring dealers into committing errors, Johnson is still ranked as one of the top 10 winners in a single night in casinos.

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Quote from: bitbob82 on May 19, 2017, 11:25:42 AM

Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.

AFAIK genius cannot make profits from casinos, yes your degree will not get you opportunities to beat the house edge and lucky people may not find possibilities to become professionals. Hence I am not finding any chances for those people to be existing in real life. Making profits from casino might be possible only in fictional stories.

People who got inspired by rumors do develop greedy opinions about entire gambling industry and keep trying to copy those fictional stories.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

casino are more prone to be rigged imho, instead dice game are in bitcoin from a longer time and are more legit, also we have very notorious people behind dice game like stunna, which is trusted, behidn casino site we have not super trusted member, but casino have on their side more fun, i like them more you have more choice

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Quote from: bouren on May 16, 2017, 11:42:09 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Your concern is valid but most of the casinos follow "probably fair" codes. However, there are many scam casinos. It is better if you choose promising ones from the gambling section here as every casino on the list is checked and reviewed by members of the forum.

Well yeah there maybe casino that are not playing fair games but it doesn’t mean that every casino is involved in such unfair activities. There are casino that are trust worthy and they like to play fair games with their clients. Like any other business having both the fair and unfair people involved in it casino also have the same issues.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Beforehand, I've also had the same thoughts as you, I've even decided not to playing casinos anymore, but after I've tried my luck in the casino for a few days I guess we're just need to waiting for the exact time to playing casino, there's a time when we can always win, Only in a certain period of time that's the exact time to playing casino. Good luck!

Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.

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Quote from: ASHLIUSZ on May 15, 2017, 06:15:41 AM

Casinos and dice games give guaranteed profit when it is used with limitations. The same when goes beyond limit the profitability decreases, also we cannot make modifications to minimize the loss as it is completely based on luck. Considering it an entertainment and moving on to play with what we can afford is the best an user can do.

Well yeah it is a luck game and there could not be make any changes in it for to minimize the risk. This is what makes the difference between the gambling and the trading that in trading you can come with a plan to reduce the risk on the investment on trading while the gambling is an ongoing game mostly depending upon luck.

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it can't be helped that some casino sites are rigged. men are greedy and would do anything it takes to tske advantage of the people who invest in them. of course there are a lot of trusted casinos out there but I think even these sometimes manipulate the results to make better income for the owners and operators

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 18, 2017, 02:04:28 PM

Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

If you prefer to do sports betting because you are into sports that's understandable. But if you do it just because you think there are no legit online casinos you are wrong. There are many of them where bets are provably fair and usually they earn from the house edge, not from cheating their customers.

You are right,there are casinos that can prove their fairness with multiple ways. For example: Betvoyager. You can check result of every game session with fairness control. If you think you are cheated then go to check numbers and compare results with real numbers. If you are not still get convinced ,you can check that complex code of fairness control on different sum hash sites. IMO you need to enjoy from gambling overall, if you gonna to check every single result, you can take advantage of being stressful on casinos Wink

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

If you prefer to do sports betting because you are into sports that's understandable. But if you do it just because you think there are no legit online casinos you are wrong. There are many of them where bets are provably fair and usually they earn from the house edge, not from cheating their customers.

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Quote from: ASHLIUSZ on May 15, 2017, 06:15:41 AM

Casinos and dice games give guaranteed profit when it is used with limitations.

No casinos or dice games can give you guaranteed profit, no matter what strategy or skills you are applying, it totally depends on your luck. Don't know what kind of limitations you are talking about lol.

Quote from: Winner on May 18, 2017, 01:15:38 PM

I like Casino games yet I find playing Dice games really bad to play because they seems like they are the most rigged game within the Casino.
I don't have any issues with Casino games that don't feature Dice Rolling because they are kind of fun to play when there is nothing else worth doing online. I like to have a little bit of a chance when gambling online, playing Dice games really does not help with that at all.

You should try sites which are popular and allows you to verify your bets. If you bet and you believe that your roll was rigged you can always verify your bets. There are even third party sites that allows you to do the same.
You can try crypto-games.net. Been a part of that community for a very long time and I know you are totally legit.

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I like Casino games yet I find playing Dice games really bad to play because they seems like they are the most rigged game within the Casino.
I don't have any issues with Casino games that don't feature Dice Rolling because they are kind of fun to play when there is nothing else worth doing online. I like to have a little bit of a chance when gambling online, playing Dice games really does not help with that at all.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Your concern is valid but most of the casinos follow "probably fair" codes. However, there are many scam casinos. It is better if you choose promising ones from the gambling section here as every casino on the list is checked and reviewed by members of the forum.

As a gambler its already a common sense thing for us to seek out the best gambling site and we would really choose those reputable and does have many positive feedback regarding to its fairness because this is one of the important indications that we are playing on a fair site.Scam or rigged cant really be avoided if you are carelessly enough on playing without knowing the history of the site.

I think no one will play blindly in all sites especially in new sites. The newcomers may confuse and play, but if they have thinking capacity, they also do some research before choosing any site. The scam site also there but you can not guess which scam and which is not until anyone face a get bad experience on that site.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on May 16, 2017, 01:47:56 PM

There are some new rigged casinos, but usually an online dice site ends up either disappearing without attracting any players, or go big and popular and then you're making so much money that trying to scam would be like throwing money away. There were some cases of popular casinos that were rigged, but they were all eventually found and abandoned. I remember one of them made their own seeds, that they switched with provably fair ones, making the site look like provably fair, when in fact it wasn't.
If you choose a popular casino, chances that you'll get scammed are slim to none.

999dice i guess as an example that until right now still used and popular for some people , even though they have been proven clearly not fair and can not provide the site bankroll , really shady but unfortunately a lot of people still fall to play there .

as the site still gives them profit more than they get on a provably fair dice game site , really strange and makes you wondering is that really matter to have provably fair when it has same result or even better without provably fair? Sad

i don't know.

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There are some new rigged casinos, but usually an online dice site ends up either disappearing without attracting any players, or go big and popular and then you're making so much money that trying to scam would be like throwing money away. There were some cases of popular casinos that were rigged, but they were all eventually found and abandoned. I remember one of them made their own seeds, that they switched with provably fair ones, making the site look like provably fair, when in fact it wasn't.
If you choose a popular casino, chances that you'll get scammed are slim to none.

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They are the best. They help me to improve myself when I feel so tired and it is apparent that they bring happiness and joyful to my life. It is even greater when there are a lot of online casinos accepting Bitcoin as a payment method

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Quote from: bouren on May 16, 2017, 11:42:09 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Your concern is valid but most of the casinos follow "probably fair" codes. However, there are many scam casinos. It is better if you choose promising ones from the gambling section here as every casino on the list is checked and reviewed by members of the forum.

As a gambler its already a common sense thing for us to seek out the best gambling site and we would really choose those reputable and does have many positive feedback regarding to its fairness because this is one of the important indications that we are playing on a fair site.Scam or rigged cant really be avoided if you are carelessly enough on playing without knowing the history of the site.

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Quote from: BillCoin on May 14, 2017, 03:31:03 AM

Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Your concern is valid but most of the casinos follow "probably fair" codes. However, there are many scam casinos. It is better if you choose promising ones from the gambling section here as every casino on the list is checked and reviewed by members of the forum.

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