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Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

There are lot of activities that happen to support the online casino and also money goes in maintaining the platform and servers in support. Also , the developer and promoter of the site get into the business to earn some out of the services they provide. I guess asking for little edge on online casinos makes sense considering the convenience they provide of playing in your own comfort zone .

Any business do really need to profit yet building a site does really have a cost and also into its staffs.So, its nonsense for a gambling site or business
wont get any fees or house edge from to its players and yes it isnt really that bad unless if the owner/operator would ask too much.
A little house edge is considerable.

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Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

There are lot of activities that happen to support the online casino and also money goes in maintaining the platform and servers in support. Also , the developer and promoter of the site get into the business to earn some out of the services they provide. I guess asking for little edge on online casinos makes sense considering the convenience they provide of playing in your own comfort zone .

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Casino with zero edge might be there, but such services won't last for a long. In simple when a new gambling site is beginning its services maybe for the promotion purpose it can run for limited time period. If there is zero house edge what will be the earning of the casino owner. Whatever might be, everyone looks for profit and none runs gambling as a free service.

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Quote from: Reatim on January 24, 2020, 02:49:25 AM

i dont know how will a gambling site makes profit without any edge?how can they support their activities without taking anything from players?
i think this is not possible unless they are offering other sort of making money to sustain.though this is the problem from more sites to gain gamblers to play because of their high house Edge but for me it is not applicable for Gambling sites to operate without any percentage,maybe smaller is much better but not totally free.

A Casino with 0% house edge is not possible.In slot machines this is not sustainable but it can be in Poker where the casino offers only the service for people to play poker and take a 1% from all winning hands.Some casinos advertises themselves with 0% house edge when they are offering such service.All other methods are not sustainable.

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i dont know how will a gambling site makes profit without any edge?how can they support their activities without taking anything from players?
i think this is not possible unless they are offering other sort of making money to sustain.though this is the problem from more sites to gain gamblers to play because of their high house Edge but for me it is not applicable for Gambling sites to operate without any percentage,maybe smaller is much better but not totally free.

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Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

I feel anyone should not mind paying the edge looking at convinience online casinos allow for players to play in their preferred environment , be it on a couch or while at job. Also , edge of online casinos is less as compared to that of traditional casinos, thats around 1 % compared to 5 %. Online casinos too require edge to maintain their platform, pay money to developers , in promotions and also the owner would be earning for self too.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 22, 2019, 04:08:06 PM

I would say that any casino running with a 0% house edge is likely just biding its time before it pulls off an exit scam.

After all, operating costs alone can rack up to a considerable amount for a casino, offering 0% house edge likely gives the casino zero income, unless they have another source.

Because of this, I would avoid playing at any casino with no house edge, unless they have a highly convincing strategy of generating revenue in some other way.

why can they just be honest and tell the truth about thier duration because that will make them look trusted than not saying anything about thier exit plans. that way they can get more costumer and who knows maybe they get good karma and they can win over those gamblers which should also prolong thier site life .

Probably because they had a plan from a start to scam people who will deposit into their site. Obviously 0% house edge will not bring good revenue to the gambling owner. They had weekly or monthly expenses for the site where they are going to have it of course from the site. So, they will probably end up exit scam. Good advice is to stay away from this kind of service.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 22, 2019, 04:08:06 PM

I would say that any casino running with a 0% house edge is likely just biding its time before it pulls off an exit scam.

After all, operating costs alone can rack up to a considerable amount for a casino, offering 0% house edge likely gives the casino zero income, unless they have another source.

Because of this, I would avoid playing at any casino with no house edge, unless they have a highly convincing strategy of generating revenue in some other way.

why can they just be honest and tell the truth about thier duration because that will make them look trusted than not saying anything about thier exit plans. that way they can get more costumer and who knows maybe they get good karma and they can win over those gamblers which should also prolong thier site life .

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I would say that any casino running with a 0% house edge is likely just biding its time before it pulls off an exit scam.

After all, operating costs alone can rack up to a considerable amount for a casino, offering 0% house edge likely gives the casino zero income, unless they have another source.

Because of this, I would avoid playing at any casino with no house edge, unless they have a highly convincing strategy of generating revenue in some other way.

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Quote from: smyslov on October 17, 2019, 11:59:37 PM

Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

Can you name that gambling sites will be open without a house edge, this is good promotion but I doubt if they can keep on, not saying that they will fail but, if they couldn't get a profit, how can they continue their operation, they can offer this to a limited period of time but not permanently if they want to stay in this business, gamblers are ok with house edge a much lower house edge than the other gambling site, it's fair for everyone.

Without house edge it is impossible, and if that's true they might have got other games with increased house edge. When it comes to casinos there might be limitations on spending as well the maximum payout. This is possible based on calculative script making, Else this will be of faucets.

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Quote from: Renampun on October 17, 2019, 05:06:47 PM

Quote from: Runnert on October 17, 2019, 08:20:23 AM

We are currently working on a casino without any house edge. To give you some answers to your questions: 1We are not looking for profits.2We paid for the hosting costs and do all development as a sort of hobby. please ready our thread if you have any more questions!

Did you raise the long-hidden thread just to promote your gambling site that provides a 0% house edge?
I think this is useless!

0% house edge sounds really impossible because that's the only source of income from a gambling site
even if you only profit from the withdrawal fee, I don't think you will be able to cover all the costs you need
0% house edge indirectly I think is a hoax.

Well i didn't really feel like starting a new discussion.. Since there were old thread that are not closed an related to the topic.

We do not profit from withdraw fee. We are not looking for any income. What costs did you have in mind? All we pay for is hosting lol. Tongue

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Quote from: Renampun on October 17, 2019, 05:06:47 PM

Quote from: Runnert on October 17, 2019, 08:20:23 AM

We are currently working on a casino without any house edge. To give you some answers to your questions: 1We are not looking for profits.2We paid for the hosting costs and do all development as a sort of hobby. please ready our thread if you have any more questions!

Did you raise the long-hidden thread just to promote your gambling site that provides a 0% house edge?
I think this is useless!

0% house edge sounds really impossible because that's the only source of income from a gambling site
even if you only profit from the withdrawal fee, I don't think you will be able to cover all the costs you need
0% house edge indirectly I think is a hoax.

Digging up some old thread just to announced up their no house edge site.Yes, it do sounds good but wouldn't be enough for them to get some players.

Ive seen that poster above where shilling out his site all over the place telling that they do pay up everything when it comes to expense just to make
people experience on having no edge place but if we do think generally its really impossible for a gambling site to have no edge yet gambling sites are businesses.
Unless if you do build up some charity then its understandable.

Like i said above. Didn't feel like starting a new discussion.
Yes we pay everything, running a online casino isn't so expensive as you guy think. The only cost we have at the moment is hosting, which we consider as all most nothing.

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Quote from: smyslov on October 17, 2019, 11:59:37 PM

Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

Can you name that gambling sites will be open without a house edge, this is good promotion but I doubt if they can keep on, not saying that they will fail but, if they couldn't get a profit, how can they continue their operation, they can offer this to a limited period of time but not permanently if they want to stay in this business, gamblers are ok with house edge a much lower house edge than the other gambling site, it's fair for everyone.

if you can see the date the he posted it . it was on the year 2017 . if ever there were zero house gambling those days , they wont still survive until today and i guess im corect because there are now no popular gambling site that has a totally zero house edge . most that we see are only 1 and there are few that less than 1 but those are only thier claims and we still didnt know if they are lying or not because i think there is no way for us to verify the exact edge that they are using .

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Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:22:40 AM

I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?

I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.

I really hope this project will work out!

Can you name that gambling sites will be open without a house edge, this is good promotion but I doubt if they can keep on, not saying that they will fail but, if they couldn't get a profit, how can they continue their operation, they can offer this to a limited period of time but not permanently if they want to stay in this business, gamblers are ok with house edge a much lower house edge than the other gambling site, it's fair for everyone.

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Quote from: bhadz on January 11, 2018, 08:03:33 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on January 10, 2018, 11:47:46 PM

0% house edge mean that casino will not get profit from it, than how could you make profit if you make that casino where 0% house edge? But one thing it clear that mostly gamblers like it very much to play in this type of casino.

It's like a very generous casino that they don't want to take edge from their gamblers. And the possible outcome of it is the casino will be quick when it comes to closure as they don't have any profit because they are offering 0% house edge. A businessman will typically think on how he can maintain his business but if not, he will become bankrupt easily.

No casino will be generous like that of course. It's not just about maintining their service but also the work they have put in order for players be able to play their platform. Gambling is a business thing. No gambling owners will provide service for free and everyone of them is making sure that the house edge is fair thus players won't look for another casino.

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Quote from: Renampun on October 17, 2019, 05:06:47 PM

Quote from: Runnert on October 17, 2019, 08:20:23 AM

We are currently working on a casino without any house edge. To give you some answers to your questions: 1We are not looking for profits.2We paid for the hosting costs and do all development as a sort of hobby. please ready our thread if you have any more questions!

Did you raise the long-hidden thread just to promote your gambling site that provides a 0% house edge?
I think this is useless!

0% house edge sounds really impossible because that's the only source of income from a gambling site
even if you only profit from the withdrawal fee, I don't think you will be able to cover all the costs you need
0% house edge indirectly I think is a hoax.

Digging up some old thread just to announced up their no house edge site.Yes, it do sounds good but wouldn't be enough for them to get some players.

Ive seen that poster above where shilling out his site all over the place telling that they do pay up everything when it comes to expense just to make
people experience on having no edge place but if we do think generally its really impossible for a gambling site to have no edge yet gambling sites are businesses.
Unless if you do build up some charity then its understandable.

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Quote from: Runnert on October 17, 2019, 08:20:23 AM

We are currently working on a casino without any house edge. To give you some answers to your questions: 1We are not looking for profits.2We paid for the hosting costs and do all development as a sort of hobby. please ready our thread if you have any more questions!

Did you raise the long-hidden thread just to promote your gambling site that provides a 0% house edge?
I think this is useless!

0% house edge sounds really impossible because that's the only source of income from a gambling site
even if you only profit from the withdrawal fee, I don't think you will be able to cover all the costs you need
0% house edge indirectly I think is a hoax.

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Quote from: ethlover on June 16, 2017, 05:40:31 AM

Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.

life isn't fair

and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge?

and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said.

I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income.

If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site.

We are currently working on a casino without any house edge. To give you some answers to your questions: 1We are not looking for profits.2We paid for the hosting costs and do all development as a sort of hobby. please ready our thread if you have any more questions!

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Quote from: noormcs5 on January 10, 2018, 11:47:46 PM

0% house edge mean that casino will not get profit from it, than how could you make profit if you make that casino where 0% house edge? But one thing it clear that mostly gamblers like it very much to play in this type of casino.

It's like a very generous casino that they don't want to take edge from their gamblers. And the possible outcome of it is the casino will be quick when it comes to closure as they don't have any profit because they are offering 0% house edge. A businessman will typically think on how he can maintain his business but if not, he will become bankrupt easily.

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Quote from: Schuyler on August 30, 2017, 04:28:19 AM

Yes it's true. I have no idea that theres a casino offer 0% edge at this time. The question here is ,if the casino has 0% edge, how do they earn? Offering 0% house can actually be profitable? Or they may make it for promos or attract new player to visit their website. Anyway,whatever it is I hope it is not scam.

Its not a scam, its a reasonable way to gain market share which is not often an easy task to do in any industry. If you observe something as mainstream as Amazon then they also run very close to zero profits seemingly at times, but also they have vastly achieved the task for gaining market share in not just USA but worldwide in quite a short period of time relatively.

Nobody could say this close to the bone strategy is a failure then, the risk is that company must keep growing in order to justify such an aggressive approach and be extremely efficient and well supported by capital when required. As no profits are building up they rely on the revenue of past expansion to allow them to continue, all growth must be valid and well chosen business or it would be two steps backwards.

Long term I dont suppose 0% edge is that feasible as the company must ensure security and other measures to operate, its not a factor which can be ignored so there is inherent costs to operation. Scales of economy do also justify gaining custom as fast as possible though.

Who said that a 0% house edge will not be profitable? Indeed casinos earn a lot more if there is house edge since it would almost certainly improve their chances of winning against the gamblers, but that doesn't mean that with 0% house edge there would be no chance the casino will profit. Remember that there is still a chance that the gamblers could have a long losing streak and that would result to the casino profiting in the end. Also do keep in mind that there is still betting limits, which will prevent gamblers from doing a martin gale system with big capital since those gamblers still will hit that limit for sure.

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Quote from: Schuyler on August 30, 2017, 04:28:19 AM

Yes it's true. I have no idea that theres a casino offer 0% edge at this time. The question here is ,if the casino has 0% edge, how do they earn? Offering 0% house can actually be profitable? Or they may make it for promos or attract new player to visit their website. Anyway,whatever it is I hope it is not scam.

Its not a scam, its a reasonable way to gain market share which is not often an easy task to do in any industry. If you observe something as mainstream as Amazon then they also run very close to zero profits seemingly at times, but also they have vastly achieved the task for gaining market share in not just USA but worldwide in quite a short period of time relatively.

Nobody could say this close to the bone strategy is a failure then, the risk is that company must keep growing in order to justify such an aggressive approach and be extremely efficient and well supported by capital when required. As no profits are building up they rely on the revenue of past expansion to allow them to continue, all growth must be valid and well chosen business or it would be two steps backwards.

Long term I dont suppose 0% edge is that feasible as the company must ensure security and other measures to operate, its not a factor which can be ignored so there is inherent costs to operation. Scales of economy do also justify gaining custom as fast as possible though.

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