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Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 03, 2015, 09:15:24 AM

Okey what you really think about this religion , I see a lot of threads of haters and people linking only to what a bunch of criminals do with the name of the Islam while it's not what Islam actually is .

Most likely Muslims here will defend Islam and Christians and Jewish may or may not defend it and for Atheist they probably hate every religion out there , so I'd like to hear from you and let's see your opinions (without hurting and insulting the Prophet PBUH) . Note that I'am a muslim (don't think it matters tho)

I only think of it as another religion wherein some people use it for their advantage to have power.. just pure politics all in all..

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Ramsay,

while your post reeks of conspiracy theories... happening of the last 15 years give you alot of credence, much more so, than I would like. The fact is, that both muslims and non-muslims are but chess pieces in much larger game.

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Islam extremism had largely been kept in line by secular dictators in most of the current problem areas yet the US broke down the door, ransacked the countries, shipped more arms to weak armies and allowed the extremists to flourish. This in turn, allows a new generation of terrorists to have land and weapons to rejuvenate, conquer and spread which will create further destabilization towards another end in the region or just the PR of the new folks on the block running roughshod and plastering it all over the media to gear up a war sick people into doing it all over again. And Congress does nothing to reign in the intelligence agencies that fester up the tension yet they do continue to ship arms under and above the table which creates a cyclical profit opportunity for the military industrial complex that is conflated w/ national defense.

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I am neutral on existence of God.

On Islam - there is no universal tradition, just set of rules, that are followed to higher or lesser degree around the world. On one end, you have salafists (Saudis, ISIS, Taliban and euro-wahabbis), who want to go "back to roots" (or back to caves) and live word by word according to rulebook from 7th century written by desert nomad. On the other, there are quite modern, powerful countries like Turkey or even Russia, where Islam developed in another more modernist form.

I dont feel hatred towards it or its believers - ardent believers are simply way too backwards to be a direct threat to current order. Rather I am afraid of westerners, who use it as yet another tool to shut down dissent - via political correctness. In this way, hapless muslim immigrants prove to be quite useful...

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I think all religions suck. They were invesnted in a time where people had a need to believe in something. These days its not needed and only causes stress, fighting, war and hurt. But I do think that people who believe in a religion, be it islam or other have a right to do so in a safe and polite manner.

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

Is it really? Agonist myself.

This forum is filled with people of a higher IQ.. The idea of a "god".. is pretty silly. Most with the ability to use logic start to understand pretty much every organized religion only exists as a method of control.

I do find most people over 40 however have had the idea of some BS thing in the sky so drilled into their brain cognitive dissonance over comes their ability to reason.

I'll give you the higher education and IQ, but maybe the biggest factor is the libertarian and anarchist mindset shared by, probably, the majority of people in this forum, religions are fascist and authoritarian by design, all the stuff the maljority of us do not like.

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Quote from: NUFCrichard on June 04, 2015, 02:43:31 PM

Quote from: spazzdla on June 04, 2015, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

This forum is filled with people of a higher IQ.. The idea of a "god".. is pretty silly. Most with the ability to use logic start to understand pretty much every organized religion only exists as a method of control.

There are plenty of people of higher IQs that are religious. Look at Einstein, and his God doesn't play dice stuff!
I don't see religion as a mean of controlling people, I see it as a way of giving meaning to life and to reduce the fear of the unknown following death.

Whether this forum is filled with people of a higher IQ is also very very questionable!

I have yet to meet one, and no, Einstein was not religious nor a theist. He himself said he didn't believe in a "personal" god, such as Christians or Muslims do. So, Einstein could be looked as, as an Agnostic or Deist only.

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Quote from: spazzdla on June 04, 2015, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

This forum is filled with people of a higher IQ.. The idea of a "god".. is pretty silly. Most with the ability to use logic start to understand pretty much every organized religion only exists as a method of control.

There are plenty of people of higher IQs that are religious. Look at Einstein, and his God doesn't play dice stuff!
I don't see religion as a mean of controlling people, I see it as a way of giving meaning to life and to reduce the fear of the unknown following death.

Whether this forum is filled with people of a higher IQ is also very very questionable!

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I think Islam is more than 600 years younger than Christianity, and that in 600 years it will have become more like Christianity is now, i.e. more of a passing interest and not worth destroying your and other peoples lives for.

There are obvious exceptions to that in Christianity, and there probably will be in Islam in the future, but I still predict that people will drift away from all religions sooner or later, Islam included.

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Quote from: spazzdla on June 04, 2015, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

Is it really? Agonist myself.

This forum is filled with people of a higher IQ.. The idea of a "god".. is pretty silly. Most with the ability to use logic start to understand pretty much every organized religion only exists as a method of control.

I do find most people over 40 however have had the idea of some BS thing in the sky so drilled into their brain cognitive dissonance over comes their ability to reason.

I sadly disagree on this point with you mate , Even if I wasen't Muslim [ Or any other religion out there ] and we use logic as you are saying ... the result would be "there is a god" because simply the first question will come into my mind is "who created humain" , who made "nature" , who made "animals" , and the answer would be pretty simple "Oh there is a creator" . At least that's my logic .

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I'm also an Atheist, but I spend a lot of time in Islamic lands and have come to like the culture. The kindness and hospitality I have experienced from Muslims has shown me the peaceful side of Islam that most Americans never see or even hear about.

So, I don't hate religion, I just don't believe in a God. I think people are people and some find love in their faith while others use it to further their hate. That's why in Islam we see beautiful acts of mercy as well as DAESH's absurd violence.

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

Is it really? Agonist myself.

This forum is filled with people of a higher IQ.. The idea of a "god".. is pretty silly. Most with the ability to use logic start to understand pretty much every organized religion only exists as a method of control.

I do find most people over 40 however have had the idea of some BS thing in the sky so drilled into their brain cognitive dissonance over comes their ability to reason.

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Quote from: Lethn on June 04, 2015, 03:47:29 AM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

It's not weird at all, a lot of people here will be Anarchists and Libertarians, adding to that Bitcoin involves highly advanced mathematics, also, I have no problem insulting people who openly practice intolerance.

My view entirely. I don't so much as "hate" religion, what I Hate is intolerance. If you're religious and aren't intolerant to people or idea's that go against your religion, that's fine with me. But when I see religious folk being intolerant(I see it all the time), that's when we have problems. The only logical answer to this of course is the end of religion, at least the main monotheistic ones.

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 04, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

It's not weird at all, a lot of people here will be Anarchists and Libertarians, adding to that Bitcoin involves highly advanced mathematics, also, I have no problem insulting people who openly practice intolerance.

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(This is for those who think that all terrorism/terrorist are muslims)

Islam is the religion/place of peace.
And some peoples are doing some terrorism act under the name of islam or with a muslim's name. But actually they're not muslims.
Eg.: Gandhiji (in india) was killed by an RSS (a terrorism which is banned thrice in india but still alive) in the name of Kader (which tattooed on his hand) and the same RSS groups killed a bunch of peoples at gujarat (in 2002, you may google it). It was more are less known by all peoples in india, still got prison for those killers.

And why would you bother only Islam? Even there're more and more religions exists and they're killing muslims?

If someone kills someone with a muslim's name, its called terrorism.
same if some kills a muslim, you'll never bother about that. Why this is happening?

~Rude Boy

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It's weird how all people here are atheists Shocked

no one is religous ir what I keep seeing them in other threads , feel free to post your opinions .
Also and as I said ... please I said without hurting however I see some people insulting

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on June 03, 2015, 09:15:24 AM

Okey what you really think about this religion

I think the fanatics have taken Islam away from you. They are now firmly in charge of it. You'll have to fight for it if you want it back again.

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Quote from: Xialla on June 03, 2015, 10:29:59 AM

I hate all religions, Islam includes..on those days, it is just use as argument for stupid behavior, manipulating people and criminal violent acts.

I'm an atheist, but not much of a hater. Hate in my opinion engenders more hate, in vicious and never ending cycles. Other types of wrong thinking does that too, though.

Correct or right thinking, including what may be called "enlightenment", would be to break through these mindless little circles of hate, greed, and manipulation by others for their selfish motives. This is a worthy goal whether one is immersed in one culture or another, or one religion or another.

As for Islam, it certainly does have it's problems, which in the aggregate seem to affect those in the religion the most adversely, and in particular, cultures and states which are largely Muslim do not seem to be able to emerge into the 21st century.

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Quote from: Xialla on June 03, 2015, 10:29:59 AM

I hate all religions, Islam includes..on those days, it is just use as argument for stupid behavior, manipulating people and criminal violent acts.

I'm an atheist, but not much of a hater. Hate in my opinion engenders more hate, in vicious and never ending cycles. Other types of wrong thinking does that too, though.

Correct or right thinking, including what may be called "enlightenment", would be to break through these mindless little circles of hate, greed, and manipulation by others for their selfish motives. This is a worthy goal whether one is immersed in one culture or another, or one religion or another.

As for Islam, it certainly does have it's problems, which in the aggregate seem to affect those in the religion the most adversely, and in particular, cultures and states which are largely Muslim do not seem to be able to emerge into the 21st century.

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My opinion of Islam is the same as for any other religion, it's utter bullshit!

Free yourself. No gods, no masters!

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