What do you think about the actual world conflicts?

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Quote from: Scoremaster on August 27, 2014, 08:43:14 AM

the middle east will always be a hot bed of bullshit because there are a lot of bullshit cultures there and poverty that causes people to kill others.

i don't think it s a product of different cultures. i think the cruelty/war/poverty it s more a product of
different politics and their ability to just let people kill each other whenever they want..

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that it's stupid, they should spend more money on discovering new things in the universe or build new techs to conquer planets, stuff like that

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

Currency and resources war. Inevitable outcome of large scale industrialization.

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guess money is our problem then.

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Quote from: Mike Christ on August 11, 2014, 11:12:04 PM

Quote from: cryptasm on August 11, 2014, 04:37:48 AM

Think most conflicts nowadays are either money making schemes for arms manufacturers or geo-political bullshit for control of our dwindling resources.

The problem is that there is way too much money to be made from war.

And the reason there is way too much money to be made from war is due to the socialization of its cost. Without the wealth of the entire nation at one's disposal, war would be far too expensive to wage at any level outside of defense from invasion.

Not so true in the US. The military industry complex is getting big and many people jobs are depended on the on going warfare to sustain the companies that provide arm and service to the military.

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Quote from: cryptasm on August 11, 2014, 04:37:48 AM

Think most conflicts nowadays are either money making schemes for arms manufacturers or geo-political bullshit for control of our dwindling resources.

The problem is that there is way too much money to be made from war.

And the reason there is way too much money to be made from war is due to the socialization of its cost. Without the wealth of the entire nation at one's disposal, war would be far too expensive to wage at any level outside of defense from invasion.

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Quote from: Mobius on August 10, 2014, 06:56:59 PM

Quote from: Leina on August 10, 2014, 05:26:23 PM

Quote from: dKingston on August 10, 2014, 04:04:34 PM

This wars/conflicts that we are witnessing today could be a prelude to a World War. Just look at the nations aligning themselves. The biggest war on History is on the horrizon.

The core of the warfare will be done via currency and economic. And lesser countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Georgia and Ukraine suffer conventional gun and bullet method.

I don't think this is very true. Few countries other then the US are big enough trading partners to other countries to make economic warfare effective.

Oil and gas export from Russia is big enough to threaten Euro Zone. Diverting all the energy resources to China will have huge ramification for US and USD.

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I think the biggest military guys just got crazy. I live in Ukraine and wanna still be alive you know. STOP MILITARY ACTIONS.

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Think most conflicts nowadays are either money making schemes for arms manufacturers or geo-political bullshit for control of our dwindling resources.

The problem is that there is way too much money to be made from war.

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

The middle east conflict will continue for many years, when we're dead they will still be fighting.
The US/EU-Russia conflict will continue in Ukraine and also on other territories. Politicians and bankers want wars.

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

There is always 3th party involved in who benefits from conflicts.
I wonder it's a war machine seller or big drug dealer...

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

In my opinion its a bunch of pots and kettles calling each other black

In the Ukraine the USA calling Russia invaders and trying to destroy the peace of the country similar to what is occurring in Iraq again now that the puppet government they put there is collapsing (Not that I support ISIS) but they left a big mess.
Iran as always has its nuclear talks and boycotts from the world financial system, which is to keep the country at bay.
Israel invading Gaza gets praised more than commended but in a sense makes for a stark contrast to Ukraine Self determination but not Palestinian Self Determination.

Basically we have foils playing against each other where propaganda from one side or the other can form interesting contrasts to real situations occurring in other places in the world.

Quote from: Mobius on August 10, 2014, 06:56:59 PM

I don't think this is very true. Few countries other then the US are big enough trading partners to other countries to make economic warfare effective.
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Russia's are pretty effective though it cuts both ways why the EU is super pissed about food exports right now that said they may compensate the farmers.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/eu-mulling-compensation-for-farmers-affected-by-russian-food-ban-1407510970

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Quote from: Leina on August 10, 2014, 05:26:23 PM

Quote from: dKingston on August 10, 2014, 04:04:34 PM

This wars/conflicts that we are witnessing today could be a prelude to a World War. Just look at the nations aligning themselves. The biggest war on History is on the horrizon.

The core of the warfare will be done via currency and economic. And lesser countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Georgia and Ukraine suffer conventional gun and bullet method.

I don't think this is very true. Few countries other then the US are big enough trading partners to other countries to make economic warfare effective.

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

especially in the middle east, about palestina vs zionis israel, i think it's ideology conflict, it's about how to defence the freedom the palestina people, it's about how to defense the country against the real terorist (israel)
there are thousands innocent people death, hundred building is broken, and hundred children and woman are injured
we must fair to the condition of palestina people

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Quote from: dKingston on August 10, 2014, 04:04:34 PM

This wars/conflicts that we are witnessing today could be a prelude to a World War. Just look at the nations aligning themselves. The biggest war on History is on the horrizon.

The core of the warfare will be done via currency and economic. And lesser countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Georgia and Ukraine suffer conventional gun and bullet method.

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Most conflicts (whish we don't talk about) are border related after imperialism era, when colonial forces left they didn't leave clear borders hence many conflicts in Africa for example are related to this or tension in Asia for that matter

Civil wars and extremism, and religious fanatics are also a source of conflict

Then comes geopolitical reasons and this usually are at a bigger scale and most of the time includes the US directly or indirectly such Ukraine right now, or Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, China sea ect

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This wars/conflicts that we are witnessing today could be a prelude to a World War. Just look at the nations aligning themselves. The biggest war on History is on the horrizon.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 10, 2014, 11:58:31 AM

Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

In my opinion, this is another ''cold war'' in progress, and Russia and USA fight over influence in this areas(specially Ukraine is the target).
Middle east conflict is even more complex, since 1948 when UK left this territory and UN was unable to find working political solution for this area.
Now, I don't think that we will see solution to this conflicts soon because it seems nobody is really interesting in peace bnow, after xso much bloodshed.

US and UK on one side and Russia and China on another side.

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Quote from: bitsta on July 31, 2014, 08:43:45 PM

Hey folks,

what do you think about the recent conflicts (russia, ukrain)
and espescially the middle east conflict??

regards,
bitsta

In my opinion, this is another ''cold war'' in progress, and Russia and USA fight over influence in this areas(specially Ukraine is the target).
Middle east conflict is even more complex, since 1948 when UK left this territory and UN was unable to find working political solution for this area.
Now, I don't think that we will see solution to this conflicts soon because it seems nobody is really interesting in peace bnow, after xso much bloodshed.

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