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What do you think? Is it related to morale, ethics or what is your opinion?
it depends on the owner of the gambling site on what he think why he conduct such rule but there are sites that allows self referral 
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I don't think cheating is the right word for that but it can be called as a violation if it's clear to their rules that they don't allow such thing and you still commit it but it would be nice if they will explain if what's the real cause for your account to get banned because the reason might be different from what your expecting .
It would seem to me that there could be problems with registering more than one account due to the fact that suc
h website sites sometimes offer promotions and giveaways. Not only that but multiple accounts could look suspicious in the eyes of regulators. So the casinos might not want to put themselves into hot water...
h website sites sometimes offer promotions and giveaways. Not only that but multiple accounts could look suspicious in the eyes of regulators. So the casinos might not want to put themselves into hot water...
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Sometimes a casino is also partly to blame. Most often casino sites can detect multi-accounts and other violations. But the problem is that they don't flag it. They don't even warn the gambler that creating a second account is a violation of their terms and conditions. They could also create a feature in which any user is automatically blocked when creating a second account. But majority of the casinos couldn't care less about these violations. They would only act on it when a jackpot or a big win happens. That's the time they would inform the player that he does not qualify for the prize because of the violations.
Suppose those casinos can tell their members who have multi accounts by sending their email. In that case, I think that can attract both of them to have a conversation to discuss what the gamblers need to do so the casinos do not have to ban them and will delete the secondary account. Or maybe a gambler does not read their TOS that having multiple accounts is prohibited, and whoever breaks that will ban all of their accounts.We know when a gambler wants to withdraw their money and the casino does not process their request instead of banning their account. That makes a gambler disappointed and some of them brought that case here and flagged the casino.
Sometimes a casino is also partly to blame. Most often casino sites can detect multi-accounts and other violations. But the problem is that they don't flag it. They don't even warn the gambler that creating a second account is a violation of their terms and conditions. They could also create a feature in which any user is automatically blocked when creating a second account. But majority of the casinos couldn't care less about these violations. They would only act on it when a jackpot or a big win happens. That's the time they would inform the player that he does not qualify for the prize because of the violations.
First of all, a gambling site that would immediately make you feel that you are a cheater doesn't deserve any more attention towards the members. Reputable gambling sites wouldn't be that strict, and they wouldn't assume that someone is cheating. I don't think everyone has experienced what you are talking about, but it can happen for sure. It makes it even more challenging to see it happening to multiple people, but I guess it's just how the world works. It's unpredictable.
Totally agree but I don't want a gambling that's too lenient though, they're going to be easily exploited by people that are always looking for ways to exploit things in order for them to abuse the system and get huge benefits from it. 
First of all, a gambling site that would immediately make you feel that you are a cheater doesn't deserve any more attention towards the members. Reputable gambling sites wouldn't be that strict, and they wouldn't assume that someone is cheating. I don't think everyone has experienced what you are talking about, but it can happen for sure. It makes it even more challenging to see it happening to multiple people, but I guess it's just how the world works. It's unpredictable.
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
No you are wrong Alucard1, they can also detect the user-agent of your browser, your fingerprint and the cookies they have sent. these days, a site can track their users not only via IP address but other means just like what you said fingerprinting. this article - 5 Ways To Identify Your Users Without Using Cookies , will give you an idea how these sites can identify their users even without using cookies. players are not the only smart here, even site owners have their own ways how to detect possible abuse of their users. so don't get too confident that you can surpass the site's ToS.
The casino however wouldn't check users whether they cheat or not after registering. The casino will only check the user when they are about to withdraw the big amount of money from them which the casino plays their part to which they contributed as to why the cheating player continues to cheat.
For the caught cheater, I guess not being able to withdraw the big amount can just be considered a penalty for trying to cheat. Not the ending they expect.
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
No you are wrong Alucard1, they can also detect the user-agent of your browser, your fingerprint and the cookies they have sent. these days, a site can track their users not only via IP address but other means just like what you said fingerprinting. this article - 5 Ways To Identify Your Users Without Using Cookies , will give you an idea how these sites can identify their users even without using cookies. players are not the only smart here, even site owners have their own ways how to detect possible abuse of their users. so don't get too confident that you can surpass the site's ToS.
What do you think? Is it related to morale, ethics or what is your opinion?
It's more about trying to see if you can cheat the casino, you are fully aware that you will eventually get caught cheating the casino, still, you proceed, this is a bad idea and unethical, we have seen in the scam section how multiple accounts can get you in trouble, when it comes to gambling learn from the experience of others and always check the rules and follow it, you are risking your money for not following the rule and trying to cheat.
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
No you are wrong Alucard1, they can also detect the user-agent of your browser, your fingerprint and the cookies they have sent. these days, a site can track their users not only via IP address but other means just like what you said fingerprinting. this article - 5 Ways To Identify Your Users Without Using Cookies , will give you an idea how these sites can identify their users even without using cookies. players are not the only smart here, even site owners have their own ways how to detect possible abuse of their users. so don't get too confident that you can surpass the site's ToS.
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
No you are wrong Alucard1, they can also detect the user-agent of your browser, your fingerprint and the cookies they have sent. Spotting same IP adresses is not the only way they can use to seek multi accounts. 
Only newbies or those who are not aware of how online casinos works, the faucets, bonuses, and referral rewards are given to motivate their members to play more and refer their friends and not to abuse it, the worst thing is you reached substantial winnings but cheat the system, you are fooling yourself if you are going to cheat don't play, you'll face an issue later.
There's a rules to follow and if you violate it you'll face consequences later on so you have no win on this especially you do multi accounts and you are abusing the referral program of that specific gambling site. We can't win against the house literally, its hard to cheat with them and you must not try it.
If you think that gambling site is good enough, then focus on your one and only account to avoid any inconvenience, this could be more fun to stay on that site than to be blocked for that bad reason.
If you think that gambling site is good enough, then focus on your one and only account to avoid any inconvenience, this could be more fun to stay on that site than to be blocked for that bad reason.
It's unethical you know the rules but you still break it because you are greedy to make money from referring yourself when a gambling casino offer a giveaway and they have a faucet for new members to try their games, they expect some members to abuse it they have a way to check members who abuse their giveaways, if you'rere playing for a longer time in gambling casinos you should know better, read their terms and follow the rules so you will have no issue when you withdraw your earnings.
If my position is in that person then I will stop my actions, it's useless anyway I can't withdraw the referral reward because fraud was found ,I always follow the rules so I don't experience this ,IMO actually it's up to them because I have no right to judge maybe it's do not have a morale because to get money anything he's can do it
If you do have solid evidence and have shown all the irregularities in the management of the casino, then it would be very good to make a thread on allegations of fraud. Because after all, you have seen a great deal of disapproval by the casino manager. So that this kind of thing can be a concern for the casino in question.
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
They can really detect if you are having a multiple account so this could be more of a problem if your both account got blocked because of violating their ToS. Being greedy like this is not good at all and even if there’s an affiliate program that could give you more, you should still not do it and better to invite friends if you really want to earn money through that affiliate. Also, KYC might be your problem if you created multiple accounts, this is risky to try and not advisable at all. 
That situation is more on the ethical part since there's a reason why most platforms never disclose the issue on why users get banned and at the same time some sites even encourage their players to use VPN when it's against their own rules and it could put their players at risk if KYC becomes a requirement. Then again some sites do mention the reason or at least provide some proofs on how accounts get flagged with multi accounting, I remember back then fortunejack received a complaint in their thread and they provided some deposit address that was related between the two.
Yeah, that's the real issues on some crypto platforms, they never disclose the reason for banning an account, they will only said that they have some kind of evidence that the user is cheating. But the user will tell us otherwise, so it's like a "he said she said". There are some kind of arbitration though.
Anyhow, I guess it's case to case basis, whether it's ethical or morale, still the benefit of the doubt is still on the gamblers who have been accused of cheating.
I assume that when we sign up we agree to few points where they have some set of rules and if they are not followed we get banned. Since the conditions, rules are pointed on two or more pages, we tend to skip those points and just sign up. So what I feel is, we might have crossed the rules and regulations as said in the forms and we are getting banned without any notice. This might be one of the reason they do not provide you the reason for either banning or trashing your accounts?
You already mentioned the problem, it is already written to the rules and regulations of the casino platform that there is no allowed of having multiple accounts on a single device but still you have done it, so expect that it is already a form of cheating because you have violated the rules of the casino which will make you ban. If you want to take advantage of those free money for every new user then you may do it in another account, they can only detect the IP address.
While reading at this thread Why do most (if not all) casinos ban users’ accounts if have more than one?. Something came to my head and here it is:
We in this forum have seen so many gambling sites launched and many of us have tried those sites. Sometimes, the new gambling site provides a giveaway for new members to test to find out that the site is worth continuing to use and can be a good site for us.
The problem is that when we do a test with free money or make a deposit to our account on the site and we can win some money, we become greedy and want to get more money. We can register on the site using our referrals, and we know that many of the gambling sites have affiliate programs.
Then, after we register and deposit some money, we can win again and when we win, we want to withdraw the money. Still, it turns out that the site tells us that we are cheating. Still, they haven't or don't tell us where the form of cheating is even though we know that we have registered twice on the site and that site has also informed us that they will not allow anyone to register using the same IP or having multiple accounts and they can check every member to find any form of cheating.
What do you think? Is it related to morale, ethics or what is your opinion?
We in this forum have seen so many gambling sites launched and many of us have tried those sites. Sometimes, the new gambling site provides a giveaway for new members to test to find out that the site is worth continuing to use and can be a good site for us.
The problem is that when we do a test with free money or make a deposit to our account on the site and we can win some money, we become greedy and want to get more money. We can register on the site using our referrals, and we know that many of the gambling sites have affiliate programs.
Then, after we register and deposit some money, we can win again and when we win, we want to withdraw the money. Still, it turns out that the site tells us that we are cheating. Still, they haven't or don't tell us where the form of cheating is even though we know that we have registered twice on the site and that site has also informed us that they will not allow anyone to register using the same IP or having multiple accounts and they can check every member to find any form of cheating.
What do you think? Is it related to morale, ethics or what is your opinion?
It depends what lengths the person is going to in order to commit these frauds against casino companies quite frankly. Just like a store in the real world is allowed to set reasonable rules (e.g. you must be wearing shirts and shoes to enter) the casinos also have terms that you agree to before registering. Every single site offering such rewards will specifically limit the reward to one per customer and require agreement before creating your account(s). If the customer decides to break those agreements then it will be up to the discretion of the casino on if any sort of refund is appropriate - I would expect them to do the decent thing and refund it for genuine mistakes where neither side has lost or gained anything, however you cannot expect the casino to eat a loss based on the benefit from a special promotion that is wrongly abused. It seems pretty obvious.
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