Topic: What do you think if Bitcointalk accepted videos? (Read 591 times)

I personally like the idea of having a way to embed some video from YouTube or other platform here or directly uploading it and keep it static until someone here decided to watch and play it here on the forum without redirecting to a third party website.
Though, since we are talking about videos being used for educational purposes and in order to make Bitcoin information to it more widespread amount newbies in the forum, then I must point out the obvious and say such a feature is likely to be used by some members to share videos with devious quality and could be mostly untopic.
I know was a matter of fact, such feature to embed videos on the forum would be heavily used in the politics & society section of the forum to spice up political debates and even misinformation/ conspiracy theories.

Rather than seeing people posting mostly educative and useful tutorials and technological news about Bitcoin and alternative currencies, this would be a boost for ANN designers, people from the Off topic section and some advertisers in the forum.

It is kind of similar to what people used to say about the use of deepfakes to influence polítics and governance, when in reality artificial Inteligence and deepfakes are being overwhelmingly being used to produce pornography.

I just think that accepting videos here would breach the gap between here being a community and being a social media platform, of which is no different from TikTok and Instagram or YouTube.
I like this conventional idea that has somehow taught many great lessons and has provided insight into future prospects. If this gets turned into an app that be downloaded freely, the infusion of video playback options wouldn't be a bad idea still.

If there are people who find a topic hard to understand then a video of instructions would really help that person. Although I am not against the idea of bitcointalk accepting videos but we know that there are people who make videos where the information or content of the video is fake or having wrong information which doesn't do any good at all in my opinion. There's also the situation where of someone quoted a psot with video then it will load unless it is set not to automatically play or videos only show when it is posted and won't show when someone quote the post with a video.

Video's are very educative especially when you are trying to learn a new thing or something you know but not familiar with.

I recently join one challenge on the forum known as " 100 push-ups A Day Until Bitcoin is $100k"
At first when I started the challenge I was not doing the push ups correctly so I decided to go on YouTube and I found a push ups video that helped me and I started doing it correctly in a proper manner.

So either ways if Bitcointalk accepts video is fine it will help more in pass quality information but since is not provided yet one can always visit YouTube like I did and get any information and also post the link in the forum so people can click and it will lead them to were they can watch it.

The idea of the forum supporting the addition of videos is a good one but there should be a certain restriction for newbies in using the features and the forum should prevent autoplay of the video and download which is so annoying whenever I use some online website.
Another one is to prevent the user from using the video features to send malicious attacks which could lead to lost of crypto.

What  about the controls
I think it should be focus auto play or are we suggesting  using a play button if interested

it definitely will.. hosting videos on a different site isn't totally free; but that's not even the problem -- atleast not for a start... Every development normally requires a headstart.

If the forum would enable this feature and then limit it to only one board, I think that something similar would happen to us as with the Press board, which only two users turned into their private board for spamming links. Therefore, I think it would be better if such a feature were available in most boards (some may be exempt), with the rule that low ranks cannot use this feature.

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I honestly don't understand what you meant with what you wrote. Are you actually saying that you can't do what I did (the way I presented the video)? You have a Senior rank and can easily post pictures on the forum, but what you lack is a way to do it. This option does not exist in the post options and you have to create it yourself, but this is how the code looks, so you can try it.

Sounds terrible, and not smooth. I've been in forums that allowed embedding YouTube videos and it didn't go well. Think of a video being posted once and quoted 5 times. The page will be on an endless loading.

It's also bad for privacy. Right now, bitcointalk proxy protects the user's privacy by passing all image requests through ip.bitcointalk.org. You can't do that to a YouTube video. Google will have to know who's watching. That's why DuckDuckGo allows you to view images privately but not videos.

I always have many tabs open, and often several windows. One more or less doesn't matter.

Let's not add mass tracking to Bitcointalk
I've blocked 4 out of those 5 including their advertising domains from my hosts file. See StevenBlack / hosts to conveniently block them. Life is better without social media.

DMCA is for the ones hosting it, not for embedding if it's hosted elsewhere.

I know you're trying to bring creativity and dynamism into the mix, even your past works have shown your good intentions. I've nothing against such conception. However, I'm of the opinion that having videos play in the forum will distract and derail topics of discussion. We know how how these things are easily hijacked. User A sends a video to buttress their point, User B sends a similar video as a follow up but which is slightly different from the first. It goes on and on like that and the import and storyline begins to lose its relevance. Besides, videos are more addictive than comments and we often find ourselves drifting while on them.

In addition, I think this forum should continue to make itself distinct and not see itself as copying what others are doing.

Watch a few seconds at the beginning, fast forward with 10x, 20x or 30x even more, watch last few seconds. A 10 minutes video will not take more than 1 minutes to get a rough idea about the video. Is moderation too hard :-)?

I imagine a good problem though. If the video is hosted on Bitcointalk server then watching it on the TOR browser is nearly an impossible job LOL. For a 10 minutes video I will need half an hour to finish it :-D.

Totally agree, I miss that simplicity the same.
90% of the content of most of these videos is useless and does not add any information to what is really needed.

The forum still allows flash videos which does not work in 2024. The admin of the forum does not feel that it should be upgraded, being the only forum of Bitcoin. It would be amazing if there was a fix to show videos within the forum. I also doubt that is possible within the forum, Talkimg moving forward to become a source to display videos will be great, it will cost a lot for sure.


That does not look presentable! That kind of predicament will not give an assurance to anyone unless a rank holder like you presents it. I have not been able to do such a thing with my posts or topics as I am only a small rank holder. If there is a way to show the video within the forum by only those who are ranked Sr Member and above then it will be good. There are a lot of users who have been awakened in my signature campaign and these guys were not a part of the forum when the merit system was implemented. If you give access to full member and above then we might see a lot spam content in the forum.

Lucius's trick is a smart solution but it's not very practical because I have to leave the website and watch video on another platform. For a smooth experience, it will be good if we are able to embed videos from popular platforms like YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Twitch, Twitter... and if they'll be embedded with lazy image loading. Lazy image loading will not slow down the website.
I mentioned those websites intentionally because they censor violence and illegal content, so forum wouldn't be under DMCA complain. If we allow videos from any source, then moderators will probably have to work very hard.

I see some upsides to having videos directly embedded in forum posts, but like theymos pointed out, there are definitely some privacy concerns too. So, I'm on the fence about it.  Personally, I don't mind the occasional click-through to another site to watch a video, it's not a huge deal.

Maybe the devs could brainstorm a solution that offers the best of both worlds?  A pop-up window that plays the video within the forum could be a good compromise.  That way, you still get the embedded video experience, but without potentially compromising your privacy by having videos load automatically and sharing our IPs with third-party sites.

Some youtubers did not add a text description of the video content or a summary of important points in the video.

To get what we need, we have to watch a full video that is sometimes too long and waste time for watching.
Even we get what we need, if we don't type it in our own note, in future, if we need that information again, we will have to watch that video again, another waste of time.

I like to read books, blog posts, articles than watching a video.

I don't want embedded videos. If there's a video link, I'll open it in an external window, and either play it on the side, or full screen. Many other sites that have embedded videos don't work for me, because I don't allow the tracking cookies. I'm okay without working embedded videos.
It gets worse if it's animating by default. My browser is set to animate GIFs only once, and ads are blocked. Whenever I visit a website without those default settings, I'm instantly surprised and annoyed by the amount of animations on my screen. I like a "quiet" screen, and anything that moves distracts.

I refuse to watch ads, and the day my adblocker doesn't block them anymore is the day I stop using Youtube.

I hate voice messages with a passion. Suddenly it goes from a screen to sound that goes all around me.

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How about limiting it to only certain boards? Or even just one, so the rest of the forum stays nice and quiet.

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There's another thing I hate about "video tutorials": whenever I need something, the first thing Google shows me is a bunch of Youtube videos. To find what I need, I need to watch some guy film himself, tell me to subscribe, bla bla bla bla bla and finally (if I'm lucky) I get to see what I needed. I miss the days when a "Howto" was just written text with images, so I can quickly scroll through it to find what i need. Video is very time consuming.

Thank you for your feedback.

A common point of view was noticed, which is very good in a community: the idea is good, this capability would be interesting, but in reality it would not be very useful for the dynamics of the forum.

The link continues to be the best way to take the reader to the video you want to present. 

Before adding a new feature, I would imagine the admins check for the demand on that feature through users exploring other more difficult routes to achieve the same result. With videos, I don't see an obvious demand for it, I've hardly ever had to embed a video into a post I was making and also come across posts containing custom links to videos sparingly.

Without much real users, if an easy to use feature is added, it would be abused, necessitating the need for stricter moderation, adding to the workload of the mods.

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It would be a cool feature to have but I'll vote No on it, cause of the obvious drawbacks and that it doesn't improve communication on the forum.