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Topic: What do you think if Bitcointalk accepted videos? - page 2. (Read 524 times)

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I feel like neutral on this, as I always view the videos on their platform e.g. vimeo or youtube instead in any third-party sites but having it in here is nothing to worry and still okay as embedded video.

On other forum i used — a general forum like reddit, the admin there create a separate website (like a dummy website) for images and videos to embed on that forum, I guess that was his third website because the other was taken down for obvious reasons. This is to avoid legal complaints, copyrights, etc. Of course, the embedding video is also possible on that forum too.
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In this sense, I thought: couldn't the forum also accept videos?
It'd be comfortable to have an "Upload file" option in general, not just limited to videos (why staying in videos when you could broaden it beyond?). Certain limitations could exist, such as the minimum rank required to be able to upload, or account storage limit (with over 1250 bitcoin in reserves, I'm pretty sure the forum can handle a few gigabytes for each user).

The problem is legal. If a user uploads illegal content, then unless files are actively monitored and reviewed, the forum admins are legally responsible. To be honest though, this would be one of the least important features to account for, if I had to choose. There's no particular problem with uploading a file to a temporary file hosting service whenever needed, and I rarely see non-newbie users who would want to share with us a video.
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I know this forum seems way behind the times in many aspects, but I hate it when I go to some mainsteam-y media site and there's some kind of video that starts playing.  No doubt there could be an option to not autoplay videos, but I'd just rather not see bitcointalk go that route--and it sounds like Theymos isn't leaning in that direction based on his response.

That compromise solution he offered up, the one with an icon to click, might not be a bad idea.  It hasn't escaped me that a lot of the younger generation prefer watching videos to reading, so it's probably not a bad idea for the forum to take a baby step out of the stone age.  And hey, I used to watch a lot of crypto videos and would probably find specially-marked links to them useful.
While someone has a problem of watching videos in the forum. Myself I sometimes wish to communicate here using a voice note, especially when I do not want to type much. I would be happy if that is added than video. On a second, many people here do not have English as their first language which makes it difficult to make connected sentences. Let's assume audio is added, with poor English and different ascents, it's gonna be a nightmare...LOL
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I know this forum seems way behind the times in many aspects, but I hate it when I go to some mainsteam-y media site and there's some kind of video that starts playing.  No doubt there could be an option to not autoplay videos, but I'd just rather not see bitcointalk go that route--and it sounds like Theymos isn't leaning in that direction based on his response.

That compromise solution he offered up, the one with an icon to click, might not be a bad idea.  It hasn't escaped me that a lot of the younger generation prefer watching videos to reading, so it's probably not a bad idea for the forum to take a baby step out of the stone age.  And hey, I used to watch a lot of crypto videos and would probably find specially-marked links to them useful.
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Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?
I think it's a good idea and I fully support it. I believe it should be possible to watch videos via the forum and I believe you are the right person to have a platform that may host the videos or make a site similar to TalkImg where users of Bitcointalk should be allowed to host their videos and then they may share the links on this forum.

I believe a JavaScript embedded pop-up of a video should be a nice feature to have on this forum. I believe someone like PowerGlove may help to create such script for the forum and if it's accepted and implemented by Theymos then it would be much helpful for the members of the forum.
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I can only imagine how much work will be added to the moderators if this feature is added to the forum. Because in order to moderate such posts, moderators will need to review all these videos.
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I guess the topic is about embedded video? In my experience, from some other forums, it does not look good visually and in some cases it's annoying too. 

That's correct.
Some may remember the not-too-long period when animated images were allowed as avatars and some campaigns started using that.
It soon became rather annoying and soon enough theymos no longer allowed them.

Now just imagine what would happen when a lot of people would put in videos, especially on auto-play...


So imho the proposal can work only without auto-play (as already said).
And really, I don't know why would that be needed when somebody can add it just in the way Royse posted the previous example. After all, the videos are not hosted here anyway.
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I sometimes post a video in the following form, but it takes some time, and some users don't even realize that the link to the video is hidden behind the picture.


This is one way to solve it. Another way is to put the link under then screenshot like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSKimRE6qmY

I guess the topic is about embedded video? In my experience, from some other forums, it does not look good visually and in some cases it's annoying too. 

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not all forums do have this kind of functionality but having a video that can be played without going out of the forum will encourage deeper discussions. videos are good topic starter, especially with the news that is happening all over the world or even just the videos of crypto influencers, they are increasing too.

and most of all why it's a great idea is because we can finally post memes from twitter and youtube here once it's put into action.
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If so, do you think it should be possible to share videos from any platform, or just from specific platforms?
I prefer the embedded videos to be from a platform that doesn't force users to view an ad or two [YouTube (e.g. standard videos) is a perfect example of a platform that should be avoided].

And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?
I'm not sure if the length of the embedded videos can put significant stress on the resources of this forum or not [especially since they're hosted somewhere else], but I think a maximum of three minutes would be more than enough for covering a lot of things.

IIRC, there were security risks with embedding such things, so I'm wondering what changed.
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This is a nice idea joker_josue it will definitely help make some things easier to understand via video illustrations. Since everyone is of the opinion they don't want a clickable video, or an autoplay setting, my suggestion is if possible, we can create a video hosting site like TALKImg but it would work like an iframe function on this forum. In that way you have full control over the video without leaving the page.

Plus I think there should be a restriction for it's use probably full member rank upwards.
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Since it is better to make use of the video link than the video itself, this will help us from having the hectic attempts in trying to load some video contents from their respective platforms, i like it the way this forum operates, not only that, when you're logging in, you wont have any delay on loading the content because there is no video uploads allowed that may be part of other reason for a slow in loading the bitcointalk page, this alone is enough reason.
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Countless times on this forum, users have actually made reference to some helpful video links that were not directly hosted on this platform but on other social apps like YouTube, Facebook, Ticktock, etc.

Last year, there was a topic I created in the gambling section in which I included a video that was saved in my gallery, but since I couldn't upload it directly to my post on this forum, I had to upload it on a different website where I was now able to copy the video link. 

Most people cannot actually understand a written article or piece of content as well as they will if it were a video they are watching. So, I agree with @Lucius that "a picture is worth a thousand words.".

This idea is cool to me. 
legendary
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The main thing to ask yourself is Why do you need this feature and what use will it do above all that is already available?

Tutorials and informative videos, there are loads available on the internet. Of course you can suggest an "Official" bitcointalk-community driven video set for newbies who seek information.

In my opinion, uploading such "Series" should be on video hosting sites like Youtube or so. Images already on this forum ends up being an eyesore (no offense to anybody).
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Virtual hero, what's this?
This is just you creating an online version of someone/character you may wish to be address as online, base on username, style of chatting and others
legendary
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Mainly for aesthetics, Talkimg could maybe offer a way to "make a video thumbnail" of an image that is uploaded, which would darken the image a bit and overlay a basic circle/play button, then provide that as the uploaded image which can be linked. If it asks for a direct URL to the video itself during the upload, it could also provide the BBCode to put the image & link together for a post.

Still would require a user to grab an image/screenshot of the video they'd want to use and upload it, as I assume talkimg would not want to try grabbing thumbnails of videos themselves. In any case, there should probably be a disclaimer added with these types of image/links letting users know that clicking would take them to a 3rd party site.

edit: I think this could potentially work for a [video] tag as well, but the forum would need to have a template image that gets put over top of any [video] tag. The video tag would essentially then accept an image URL as a thumbnail, and a video URL.
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With the forum that sometime went down and it takes time for the forum to load the images even though it just 2MB, the forum isn't ready yet to allow embedded videos. Usually the size of 1 minute video around 50~ MB, although we can compress it or reduce the resolution, but I don't think it's good to watch an blurry/low quality video.

At least the forum still allow GIFs, even though it's not effective to be used as tutorials.

legendary
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Videos are increasingly part of our way of communicating. Although some of us like to watch more or fewer videos on the most varied topics, we have to agree that in many cases they are very useful.

I am not sure that I recognize the video as part of the communication here on the forum. Watching videos makes me completely passive in that communication, plus it's mostly quite broad and for something that I read in 30 seconds, it's most often packed into a 2-minute video. Seems like quite a waste of time to me.

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What are your opinions? Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?

Just imagine spammers with this capability. You have to watch the whole video to be sure that it is a useless thing.  Sad

A posted link is enough if someone wants to hear more.
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as long as the video doesnt autoplay im good with it. i like static pages. and ill hit youtube for videos if im in the mood
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I have nothing against that idea, because they say a picture is worth a thousand words, and adding a video to the forum in a quick and easy way might be a step in a positive direction. However, I think that such a feature should somehow be limited to at least the Member+ rank, because there should be no doubt that otherwise there will be those who will abuse such a feature.

I agree with this, otherwise the feature surely will be abused.

I sometimes post a video in the following form, but it takes some time, and some users don't even realize that the link to the video is hidden behind the picture.


I'm doing exactly the same if I want to show a video. To be honest, I don't understand why anyone sees this way of showing videos inconvenient. And if you want to watch a particular video, is it so hard to click on the link or linked image?

I'm just happy with how this forum woks and afraid of some unnecessary "improvements" that can potentially damage the forum.
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