Ok, I was right about the profession...... Now we have the (almost, aside from the signature) complete text:
Oшинoвщик
Poдиoнoв
к oтк Кapeeв
Topic: What does this say? (possibly in russian) (Read 3615 times)
Perhaps that is just what 50 year old paper looks like. No idea on the fountain pen,
This could be written not with fountain pen but with a "copying pencil" (a.k.a. "indelible pencil", "ink pencil", "chemical pencil"). In that case the dye would be methyl blue. If this is from 1947 from Soviet Union this would be highly likely. So why was the letter written in long-hand with a fountain pen on a brown paper bag. I'm sorry, but I believe something nefarious is at hand here. I'm now conducting an investigation to get to the bottom of this "supposed" letter.
~Bruno~
~Bruno~
Perhaps that is just what 50 year old paper looks like. No idea on the fountain pen, the last line did look like different handwriting to me.
Here are some more. They are from ammo cans manufactured in the 1970s and appear to use stamps rather than handwriting:
So why was the letter written in long-hand with a fountain pen on a brown paper bag. I'm sorry, but I believe something nefarious is at hand here. I'm now conducting an investigation to get to the bottom of this "supposed" letter.
~Bruno~
Update: I just found this photo. Does anybody recognize anybody at this Russian ammo factory?
~Bruno~
Update: I just found this photo. Does anybody recognize anybody at this Russian ammo factory?
So the most plausible story is Rodionov was responsible for galvanizing the ammo cans, and the cheif of QC signed off on his work. The white powder found on the cans is some white rust. Makes sense to me, that last line does look like "I amm Kaput" though.
First line: "Oshinovshich" -- surname
Second line: "Rodionov" -- another surname
Third line: "k o... Kari..." -- "Kari..." is the signature with end of surname degraded to pen stroke
"k o..." -- illegible, most likely rank or position. Probably "commander of squad"
Second line: "Rodionov" -- another surname
Third line: "k o... Kari..." -- "Kari..." is the signature with end of surname degraded to pen stroke
"k o..." -- illegible, most likely rank or position. Probably "commander of squad"
Here are some thoughts 
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For comparisonpurposes: http://masterrussian.net/f13/russian-handwriting-feedback-examples-wanted-15626/
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I see 6 words
The bottom line states:
I amm Kaput
It's written on a brown grocery store bag paper with purple ink. A ball point pen was not used, possibly a fountain pen.
The bottom line states:
I amm Kaput
It's written on a brown grocery store bag paper with purple ink. A ball point pen was not used, possibly a fountain pen.
Neat observation about the use of a fountain pen. Now that you've brought it up, it explains the dark areas in the letters as if stopping, then restating after a refill. The tip of the pen would have been heavy-laden with ink until the writing process commenced anew.
I keep thinking about the shirt image I posted above. Although it was a joke at the time, I envision it being worn at certain functions, i.e. OWS, and when somebody ask what is means, one can honestly reply, "If you don't know, then I can't tell you." I would suggest two major changes though: not yellow and a very small Bitcoin logo place about the same place you would see a Playboy Bunny logo on said brand shirts. If the conversation seems to end without being ask further questions, kindly state that it's Bitcoin related, whereupon a whole dialog is now started about Bitcoin. If the Russian message is revisited, either still state you can't relay the message and/or point them to this thread.
Therefore, if this idea ever comes to fruition, and somebody is now reading this post because they saw such a shirt, remember that it was my (Bruno) idea and not Matthew's.
~Bruno~
I see 6 words
The bottom line states:
I amm Kaput
It's written on a brown grocery store bag paper with purple ink. A ball point pen was not used, possibly a fountain pen.
The bottom line states:
I amm Kaput
It's written on a brown grocery store bag paper with purple ink. A ball point pen was not used, possibly a fountain pen.
From the person who found it:
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interesting. the ammo came in a wooden sealed crate. inside the wooden crate were two metal, sealed tins with the ammo inside. the metal was covered in some sort of white powdery residue. is some areas there seemed to be less of this residue and this is also where slight surface rust appeared on the sealed tins. the slip of paper was sitting on top of the two tins. if it is an inspection slip of sort, it wouldn't be the first time i've found one. just never a hand written one like this. i'll dig out another one.
Why is it so difficult to interpret? Bad handwriting?
Because too little information I see. I don't know the exact process, but
the people who made this paper had that knowledge. So they have more context to understand that writings.
There two names of responsible persons (first is family name "Rodionov", and second person put his signature which is not fully readable)
First person was responsible for technological process (something related to Zink protection from corrosion)
Second person was responsible for distribution and access control.
Probably he approved shipping from factory or from another storage place
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After some thinking, there might be another possibility:
the second person is technical controller.
"k otk" might be the "department of technology checking"
First person was responsible for technological process (something related to Zink protection from corrosion)
Second person was responsible for distribution and access control.
Probably he approved shipping from factory or from another storage place
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After some thinking, there might be another possibility:
the second person is technical controller.
"k otk" might be the "department of technology checking"
This seems most believable to me. Why is it so difficult to interpret? Bad handwriting?
There two names of responsible persons (first is family name "Rodionov", and second person put his signature which is not fully readable)
First person was responsible for technological process (something related to Zink protection from corrosion)
Second person was responsible for distribution and access control.
Probably he approved shipping from factory or from another storage place
---
After some thinking, there might be another possibility:
the second person is technical controller.
"k otk" might be the "department of technology checking"
First person was responsible for technological process (something related to Zink protection from corrosion)
Second person was responsible for distribution and access control.
Probably he approved shipping from factory or from another storage place
---
After some thinking, there might be another possibility:
the second person is technical controller.
"k otk" might be the "department of technology checking"
Does it look like the second word has exactly 8 letters in it and starts with P?
Let's agree on the letter count of all five words, safely assuming that there are only five.
~Bruno~
Let's agree on the letter count of all five words, safely assuming that there are only five.
~Bruno~
Oshi Love's him
Robio
I am finnished.
Robio
I am finnished.
WIP:
First line: oшинoвщик (that's the best I can come up with), it's a profession... Which could be well ....
a) a guy who put tires on wheels (шины - tires)
b) a guy who insulates electrical wirings
Second line: poдиoнoв - Rodionov (last name)
Third line: к o___ кa___
First line: oшинoвщик (that's the best I can come up with), it's a profession... Which could be well ....
a) a guy who put tires on wheels (шины - tires)
b) a guy who insulates electrical wirings
Second line: poдиoнoв - Rodionov (last name)
Third line: к o___ кa___
1. Omml covuih
2. P
3. L
4. Amm
5. X
2. P
3. L
4. Amm
5. X
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