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The USA is certainly not alone in giving sanctions to Russia, I'm sure they are discussing this with their allies, namely the European Union, perhaps the toughest sanctions are strict embargoes such as those experienced by other countries such as Iraq, Cuba or North Korea. I hope peace will come soon and there will be no more war.

Currently Russia is under pressure from America and other NATO countries, many sanctions have begun to be directed at Russia by America and its allied countries, such as the prohibition of the use of dollars for international transactions by Russia, stopping imports and exports from and to Russia as well as the economic sanctions they imposed use it to weaken Russia, but I think the sanctions may not have a long-term effect on Russia and it looks like the Russian economy will not fall that easily, because many Middle Eastern countries  have relations with rusia, apart from that I know they also have pretty good trade relations with china, and so the effect of the American embargo will probably be less affected for russian ekonomic.
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The USA is certainly not alone in giving sanctions to Russia, I'm sure they are discussing this with their allies, namely the European Union, perhaps the toughest sanctions are strict embargoes such as those experienced by other countries such as Iraq, Cuba or North Korea. I hope peace will come soon and there will be no more war.
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Von der Leyen has just announces that Russia is effectively being cut from the SWIFT payments system and that the west will be after the Russian main oligarchs assets across the world (for those unfamiliar with how this works, it is very difficult and not 100% possible). Ursula is also speaking about freezing the Russian Central bank assets. This is along with a tech supply chain squeeze, that may not work too well since China will be taking advantage.

China strongly supports Russia, so I doubt economic sanctions will cripple Russia's ability to finance its military (among other things) in the long term. With full isolation from the global trade, Russia will have no choice but to launch a financial system of its own (based on Blockchain tech). I'd be interesting to know how other countries will react after Russia decides to make such a move. If Russia makes its proprietary blockchain dependent on public chains for security, then it would be completely unstoppable.

Imagine if the Ruble gets digitized, living on a blockchain network tied to the main Bitcoin blockchain for security (like a sidechain). To be able take down Russia's "little coin", countries are going to have to shut down Bitcoin (and the Internet) for good. You and I know this is impossible to achieve, so things will only get worse from now on. Who knows how the world will look 5-10 years from now? Just my thoughts Grin
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Kamala Harris (US Vice President) making some statement on the Russia and Ukraine problem said US and her aligns will impose unprecedented economic sanction on Russia if they continue to evade or attack Ukraine. So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.
So far Russia has continued to increase their military activities in Ukraine, the threat of sanctions from America and Nato does not seem to deter Russia from continuing to carry out military attacks, America has now imposed economic sanctions on Russia and the Americans have imposed sanctions on two large Russian state-owned banks currently, besides that America has also asked the Nato countries to stop all trading activities with Russia, but I think the impact of these sanctions will not seem to have much effect on Russia because as far as I know, Russia is currently establishing trade and economic cooperation with other powerful countrie that is china.

Yes I think that Russia has prepared herself for this sanctions before now and that is making it look like it is just nothing happening to Russia. For now they have strengthen trading activities with her aligns which China is the leader. China itself has a large market network around Asian countries so Russia won't have any problem to divert to China for supplies for the economy.

Before the invasion of Ukraine of course Russia had thought about this, but their strong ally, China, of course, would help a lot in everything so I'm sure if sanctions were imposed it would not cause the Russian economy to fall or go into recession.
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Yes I think that Russia has prepared herself for this sanctions before now and that is making it look like it is just nothing happening to Russia. For now they have strengthen trading activities with her aligns which China is the leader. China itself has a large market network around Asian countries so Russia won't have any problem to divert to China for supplies for the economy.

Yeah yeah, it will do that and this and it will end up just in the same 10 km deep shithole as the USSR did.
For 10 years that's all I've been hearing the US will crumble, Europe is ding of hunger, the US is going through a civil war, Africa South America, all of Asia is with the USSR, thousands of west germans are feeling to East Germany...and we were so damn poor we barely could afford to have anything other than staple foods.

This is current Russia, the mighty superpower, before sanctions:

Average wage 492€, on the same level as Bosnia and about 10 times lower than Switzerland
Average life expectancy, 73.2, lower than Bangladesh or Venezuela, 10 years less than Italy or Spain or France, for males just 68.2.
The homicide rate, 8.2, is higher than Tanzania or Zimbabwe, and before you ask it's 60% higher than in the USA.

So, do I have to spell it for you how it will look after they are cut off from all the trading?

You know that Aeroflot has Boeing and Airbus planes for their long-range flights, Renault makes their only cars, and they even import vodka from Sweden and Finland? Enjoy the shitshow!

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Von der Leyen has just announces that Russia is effectively being cut from the SWIFT payments system and that the west will be after the Russian main oligarchs assets across the world (for those unfamiliar with how this works, it is very difficult and not 100% possible). Ursula is also speaking about freezing the Russian Central bank assets. This is along with a tech supply chain squeeze, that may not work too well since China will be taking advantage.
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Kamala Harris (US Vice President) making some statement on the Russia and Ukraine problem said US and her aligns will impose unprecedented economic sanction on Russia if they continue to evade or attack Ukraine. So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.
So far Russia has continued to increase their military activities in Ukraine, the threat of sanctions from America and Nato does not seem to deter Russia from continuing to carry out military attacks, America has now imposed economic sanctions on Russia and the Americans have imposed sanctions on two large Russian state-owned banks currently, besides that America has also asked the Nato countries to stop all trading activities with Russia, but I think the impact of these sanctions will not seem to have much effect on Russia because as far as I know, Russia is currently establishing trade and economic cooperation with other powerful countrie that is china.

Yes I think that Russia has prepared herself for this sanctions before now and that is making it look like it is just nothing happening to Russia. For now they have strengthen trading activities with her aligns which China is the leader. China itself has a large market network around Asian countries so Russia won't have any problem to divert to China for supplies for the economy.
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Kamala Harris (US Vice President) making some statement on the Russia and Ukraine problem said US and her aligns will impose unprecedented economic sanction on Russia if they continue to evade or attack Ukraine. So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.
So far Russia has continued to increase their military activities in Ukraine, the threat of sanctions from America and Nato does not seem to deter Russia from continuing to carry out military attacks, America has now imposed economic sanctions on Russia and the Americans have imposed sanctions on two large Russian state-owned banks currently, besides that America has also asked the Nato countries to stop all trading activities with Russia, but I think the impact of these sanctions will not seem to have much effect on Russia because as far as I know, Russia is currently establishing trade and economic cooperation with other powerful countrie that is china.
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Kamala Harris (US Vice President) making some statement on the Russia and Ukraine problem said US and her aligns will impose unprecedented economic sanction on Russia if they continue to evade or attack Ukraine. So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.

Biden said it will launch one of the most effective destructive weapons it has on Russia if the evading continue and such is able to cause a massive destruction of more than three cities in Russia, is this not an opening ceremony to another third world war that Russia is trying to evoke? That's my contemplation.

This is really beginning to be frightening to hear of such attack from US. Russia doesn't look like giving up the fight despite the sanctions so far going on against Russia. More countries have decided to support in the sanction including Hungary as the latest country to join. Russia promised to attack only military facilities in Ukraine but civilians and residential premises are now getting attacked. The situation in Ukraine is getting bad and citizens are running away.
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Kamala Harris (US Vice President) making some statement on the Russia and Ukraine problem said US and her aligns will impose unprecedented economic sanction on Russia if they continue to evade or attack Ukraine. So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.

Biden said it will launch one of the most effective destructive weapons it has on Russia if the evading continue and such is able to cause a massive destruction of more than three cities in Russia, is this not an opening ceremony to another third world war that Russia is trying to evoke? That's my contemplation.
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Sanctions will do absolutely nothing. Russia getting poorer, and I mean like seriously poorer, almost starvation level of poorer is something Putin knew would happen and yet he still went ahead. I am sorry but the reality is that if you want to put NATO at the borders of Russia, then Putin will always do something evil, dude is trying to do the "right" thing in his mind and when you are an evil horrible person thinking you are justified then there is really no limits and no consequences that are too dire. You will go to distance to kill every single person in the world if you have to. Go read on Hitler, and you will see Putin but european version.
Sanctions are there to make sure Russians suffer, and not Putin, which means that Russians will hate Putin even more after the sanctions. Even though we all know elections are not legit and fake, we could at least make sure that Russians all hate Putin enough that he couldn't leave his palace and just stay put, the moment he goes to streets there would be people who hate him surrounding him.

You may think that it is a scary thing for people to go against him, but if you know Russia, you know that if there is a better person to do what Russia has always done above Putin after he lost all the power, then even people around him will leave public alone and try to undermine Putin and put a new person in charge. Sort of like what happened to Yeltsin, that is what Europe is aiming at. Turning Putin into Yeltsin to make sure he resigns himself after finding EVERYONE around him, literally near him, starting to hate him.
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Putin is prepared for it since Russia has its "friend" to trade with in case US and NATO imposed hard sanctions.

.... I still can't figure out why Putin is doing this.
It's hard to understand him if you're used to western ideologies. He's coming from the "protect Russia from destruction" point of view if you read his translated speech. He's fearful that one day the NATO will choke Russia if Ukraine joins the Alliance. Russia already experienced a blockade in one of its sea routes before and Putin doesn't want a possible repeat of that.

Funny how he also calls the US an empire of lies.

I would also like to add that it seems Putin could not get an assurance that Ukraine will remain a neutral country from diplomatic talks which forced him to go for a military solution.

So before the threat that he is thinking of, he wants to eliminate it in the expense of thousands of lives that will be lost.
Ukraine are now in pro-democracy so I don't think what Putin was thinking will happen. He is too paranoid, in my opinion.
Hopefully, we will see fast resolution of this war. But I believe, Ukraine will surrender as they have no resources to fight Russia.
Russia seems to be very prepared on this attack. So high likely, Putin is planning this for years. And no one can stop him as he already started the war.

You cannot dismiss the possibility that Ukraine wanted to join the alliance before the Russia made a move. Their inexperienced President already said earlier that he was asking member countries if they can beome part of NATO.

Russia has always been prepared to use its military since NATO continue to expand and militarize countries near their border.
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Putin is prepared for it since Russia has its "friend" to trade with in case US and NATO imposed hard sanctions.

.... I still can't figure out why Putin is doing this.
It's hard to understand him if you're used to western ideologies. He's coming from the "protect Russia from destruction" point of view if you read his translated speech. He's fearful that one day the NATO will choke Russia if Ukraine joins the Alliance. Russia already experienced a blockade in one of its sea routes before and Putin doesn't want a possible repeat of that.

Funny how he also calls the US an empire of lies.

I would also like to add that it seems Putin could not get an assurance that Ukraine will remain a neutral country from diplomatic talks which forced him to go for a military solution.

So before the threat that he is thinking of, he wants to eliminate it in the expense of thousands of lives that will be lost.
Ukraine are now in pro-democracy so I don't think what Putin was thinking will happen. He is too paranoid, in my opinion.
Hopefully, we will see fast resolution of this war. But I believe, Ukraine will surrender as they have no resources to fight Russia.
Russia seems to be very prepared on this attack. So high likely, Putin is planning this for years. And no one can stop him as he already started the war.

Maybe Putin could no longer control his temper because of Ukraine's irresponsible moves so this war might have been his last resort. But honestly, this war that will took a lot of lives should never be the best option in times like this. There could have been a peace talk prior to this. And certainly, i found a news that Putin is ready for talks with Ukraine. Hopefully this will put an end to this war. Check this link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/25/putin-ready-to-send-delegation-to-minsk-for-ukraine-talks
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Putin is prepared for it since Russia has its "friend" to trade with in case US and NATO imposed hard sanctions.

.... I still can't figure out why Putin is doing this.
It's hard to understand him if you're used to western ideologies. He's coming from the "protect Russia from destruction" point of view if you read his translated speech. He's fearful that one day the NATO will choke Russia if Ukraine joins the Alliance. Russia already experienced a blockade in one of its sea routes before and Putin doesn't want a possible repeat of that.

Funny how he also calls the US an empire of lies.

I would also like to add that it seems Putin could not get an assurance that Ukraine will remain a neutral country from diplomatic talks which forced him to go for a military solution.

So before the threat that he is thinking of, he wants to eliminate it in the expense of thousands of lives that will be lost.
Ukraine are now in pro-democracy so I don't think what Putin was thinking will happen. He is too paranoid, in my opinion.
Hopefully, we will see fast resolution of this war. But I believe, Ukraine will surrender as they have no resources to fight Russia.
Russia seems to be very prepared on this attack. So high likely, Putin is planning this for years. And no one can stop him as he already started the war.
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Putin is prepared for it since Russia has its "friend" to trade with in case US and NATO imposed hard sanctions.

.... I still can't figure out why Putin is doing this.
It's hard to understand him if you're used to western ideologies. He's coming from the "protect Russia from destruction" point of view if you read his translated speech. He's fearful that one day the NATO will choke Russia if Ukraine joins the Alliance. Russia already experienced a blockade in one of its sea routes before and Putin doesn't want a possible repeat of that.

Funny how he also calls the US an empire of lies.

I would also like to add that it seems Putin could not get an assurance that Ukraine will remain a neutral country from diplomatic talks which forced him to go for a military solution.
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The only sanction that can affect Russia is by not letting Russian citizens travel into Europe, America and a few other countries.


I think the Russian elite are now included in the sanction and restrictions are coming on them. Today Biden made the announcement also that Putin himself will be under sanction. Well I think Russia government would have considered the weight of possible sanctions to them before they embarked on the invasion knowing well that it will come to pass if they go ahead. Now some of Russia banks have been stopped transaction to swiss bank. I hope Putin will come down on his invasion.
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So I'm wondering what kind of unprecedented economic sanction can be given to Russia if they continue to evade Ukraine.
As they impose economic sanctions, it's not only US that will impose but as well as the EU/UK as Boris have said as well.
We can have that idea that the sanction was already activated when the stocks of Russia has fell a lot with the first attacks that Russia did to Ukraine. IIRC, Turkey has also been sanctioned by US during the Trump administration and look at their economy now. But for Russia, I don't think they'll be sitting for this sanction effect for long.
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All these sanctions mean nothing to Putin and Russia. Putin is a strong man no sanctions can affect him, if u try to stop him or block his way he will pull you out of his way. The only sanction that can affect Russia is by not letting Russian citizens travel into Europe, America and a few other countries.
The UK freezing Putin, Lavrov assets over Ukraine invasion won't shake Putin do what he wants to towards Ukraine
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The war is going on, casualties are falling from the ukraine side, I see to this day America does not dare to impose economic sanctions on Russia, UN says for the sake of humanity and conscience, please stop war and withdraw troops from ukraine, says UN chief.

It seems America doesn't dare to impose sanctions on Russia, because they are both countries that like to interfere in other countries' affairs, equally strong.
"As we seek to impose maximum costs on Putin, there is more that we can and should do," the New Jersey Democrat said. "Congress and the Biden administration must not shy away from any options—including sanctioning the Russian Central Bank, removing Russian banks from the SWIFT payment system, crippling Russia's key industries, sanctioning Putin personally, and taking all steps to deprive Putin and his inner circle of their assets." source:https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/biden-sanctions-russia-ukraine/index.html

 Those were the sanctions for Russia for invading Ukraine. It seems Putin is the target of all the sanctions and i can't imagine living his life in hell after having all the consequences due to the war that he has started. But we can't blame Putin after all, we know how strong Russia is and once you see your own country is already affected, you will really think of revenge.
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 Sanctions will do absolutely nothing. Russia getting poorer, and I mean like seriously poorer, almost starvation level of poorer is something Putin knew would happen and yet he still went ahead. I am sorry but the reality is that if you want to put NATO at the borders of Russia, then Putin will always do something evil, dude is trying to do the "right" thing in his mind and when you are an evil horrible person thinking you are justified then there is really no limits and no consequences that are too dire. You will go to distance to kill every single person in the world if you have to. Go read on Hitler, and you will see Putin but european version.
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