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staff
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
How is the payment then? In other words, I can create many accounts, spam with them, delete topics and reap profits or I can tighten the deletion criteria to get more payments.

There's no mystery : no report, no payment. But it's not always about money (ok I agree, that helps) (I speak for myself).
Every system can be abused. I can create several accounts and make reports to "reap profits". But that would be the stupidest thing to do. If I have 1000 reports per month when there are only a few hundred posts per month, Theymos will look at me suspiciously Smiley
legendary
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I don't have many reports per month and the french section is not the most active, so most of my mod actions are done without a report.

How is the payment then? In other words, I can create many accounts, spam with them, delete topics and reap profits or I can tighten the deletion criteria to get more payments.
That's funny considering the loyalty the mods are showing and how they were picked to be a moderator in the forum. It's only possible in altcoinforum, cryptotalk and other shitcoin forum where there are no moral value for both admin and the users.

If I am right then our latest addition was Welsh and he was reporting silently before he was picked to be a moderator for the board he is assigned.
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It is easy to determine whether it is due to an active member or due to a decrease in the spam rate in the forum.
I remember there was a user who used an AI bot or something similar to identify plagiarism and because of him hundreds of accounts were banned.
So by reading the reporter username, you can get a general statistic.
That's only as good as the data you feed it. If you aren't feeding it all the data, it won't know identify everything, just as we can't pinpoint the exact cause. Although, as I said it's probably a combination of all the above I mentioned, as well as some metrics which aren't easy to measure. We can only work with public data, after all.

The spam has definitely decreased from peak 2017/2018 levels, that's for definite.

How is the payment then? In other words, I can create many accounts, spam with them, delete topics and reap profits or I can tighten the deletion criteria to get more payments.
theymos hasn't revealed the algorithm used, so it's not open to abuse. I imagine if a moderator was doing the above, they wouldn't be a moderator for long.
legendary
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Unfortunately, reports have died down in recent months so I imagine this effect is more noticeable. Again, it's not a problem in my opinion, but probably more noticeable. I miss the days when I woke up to hundreds of reports, it's somewhat therapeutic to deal with. 
It is easy to determine whether it is due to an active member or due to a decrease in the spam rate in the forum.
I remember there was a user who used an AI bot or something similar to identify plagiarism and because of him hundreds of accounts were banned.
So by reading the reporter username, you can get a general statistic.

I don't have many reports per month and the french section is not the most active, so most of my mod actions are done without a report.

How is the payment then? In other words, I can create many accounts, spam with them, delete topics and reap profits or I can tighten the deletion criteria to get more payments.
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Is the reason why some have given up on mass reports that they don't want to waste time on something that they have no personal use for, or are people just tired and leave that work to someone else?
I don't know for sure, but the bumping changes in the Altcoin section resulted in less users being exposed to the spam. The spam still exists, it just isn't noticed as much. The reduced activity has, and will always result in less reports, since there's less things to report as you correctly pointed out.

The other thing; I've noticed some users getting a little disgruntled on getting bad reports or them staying unhandled. So, they've reduced their reporting activity, which is a shame. I do get why they would be frustrated by that, but it's not always that the report hasn't been seen it's just been chosen by those that have reviewed it that it was either bad or was better to stay unhandled.

Also, the merit system probably has reduced the amount of users, and also means that a lot of the spammers stay new users, and therefore get picked up by the patrollers. Since there's more patrollers than dedicated moderators usually.
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Unfortunately, reports have died down in recent months so I imagine this effect is more noticeable. Again, it's not a problem in my opinion, but probably more noticeable. I miss the days when I woke up to hundreds of reports, it's somewhat therapeutic to deal with. 

Either the forum has drastically improved in the sense that there is less spam, or the most active ones have given up on their mission to clean the forum of all garbage. I would still say that it is the latter, although every bear market causes less activity on the forum, so that should also be taken into account.

Is the reason why some have given up on mass reports that they don't want to waste time on something that they have no personal use for, or are people just tired and leave that work to someone else?
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Yeah, I have those occasions, too, where I have to unwittingly pick up someone else's reports by nuking newbies. Especially a lot of such cases when the spamming starts in the form of topics with malware links. Well, I think there's nothing wrong with that, we're all doing the one thing Wink
As long as the malware is gone or at least been trashed, that's what we're here for. I'm not bothered if someone takes my reports, I think that's the wrong attitude to have. When it comes to malware especially, that just needs to be dealt with as soon as possible to mitigate the damage. Hence, sometimes I just move it to the trash can when I can't nuke the user myself, and then allow the global moderators to see the report, and deal with it.

Unfortunately, reports have died down in recent months so I imagine this effect is more noticeable. Again, it's not a problem in my opinion, but probably more noticeable. I miss the days when I woke up to hundreds of reports, it's somewhat therapeutic to deal with. 
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My impressions are probably wrong and there must be the case that sometimes I must steal reports from other sections by nuking an user. But it doesn't matter, I've got used to believe that the secrets of Theymos are unpredictable Smiley

Yeah, I have those occasions, too, where I have to unwittingly pick up someone else's reports by nuking newbies. Especially a lot of such cases when the spamming starts in the form of topics with malware links. Well, I think there's nothing wrong with that, we're all doing the one thing Wink
staff
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
As of recently, I'd say the majority of my actions are non reported ones. I'd be interested in seeing what the percentages would be,

I admit that I would be interested too Smiley.
There are some months where I feel like I've had a "lot" of reports, and... I'm deferred.
And there are months where I feel like I haven't done much and finally I have a "good" surprise.
My impressions are probably wrong and there must be the case that sometimes I must steal reports from other sections by nuking an user. But it doesn't matter, I've got used to believe that the secrets of Theymos are unpredictable Smiley
staff
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How do mods get report notifications, are they in the form of tables or individually.
How are they arranged?

  • Depending on the time of report.
  • the user who report.
  • who is reported,.
  • Topic/reply.

Can mods delete spam posts that are not reported? if global mod report it as bad then it reported again too many time can ignore users reports?
Most recent reports show up first. Yeah, we see who reported the post, but honestly I don't really pay much attention to that. In fact, I've even hidden it in the past using a user script. Though, a feature was introduced earlier this year I believe, that made me switch that off.

Yeah, it shows who is reported, and it shows the thread title. Then on hovering over that you can see the post ID. I've got a slightly modified report queue on my end via user scripts though which make it a little easier to digest.

I'd love to see something done to the report queue to get it more efficient though. Although, reporting has died down a lot over the recent months, at least for myself.

Yeah, I go into it a little more below, but most of the actions I've taken in the last few months have been through doing it myself rather than acting upon reports. Although, I've also been away, so this closing to the year has been a little sporadic from my point of view.

It can depend. I don't have many reports per month and the french section is not the most active, so most of my mod actions are done without a report.
Given the mass of reports, a GM must probably act mainly via the reports and a little bit on the sections he follows more regularly. And it can depend on the GM.
As of recently, I'd say the majority of my actions are non reported ones. I'd be interested in seeing what the percentages would be, although it would be heavily skewed as a few users earlier in the year went on a reporting spree. The last few months have been a little different though, definitely.

staff
Activity: 2366
Merit: 2013
I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
How do mods get report notifications, are they in the form of tables or individually.
How are they arranged?

Can mods delete spam posts that are not reported? if global mod report it as bad then it reported again too many time can ignore users reports?

Mods see reports from the sections they are assigned to.
For example, as a moderator of the french section, I only see reports made in the french section. And I don't see the reports made in the German section, Meta or other sections.
GMs and admins see all reports.

It can depend. I don't have many reports per month and the french section is not the most active, so most of my mod actions are done without a report.
Given the mass of reports, a GM must probably act mainly via the reports and a little bit on the sections he follows more regularly. And it can depend on the GM.

legendary
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Technically, not all reports will be handled the same even if it's for the same post. Since, the reporters might be reporting for a different reason to another. One could be reporting for the wrong section, but technically not be correct, and another might be reporting for a duplicate thread, and could be right in doing so.
How do mods get report notifications, are they in the form of tables or individually.
How are they arranged?

  • Depending on the time of report.
  • the user who report.
  • who is reported,.
  • Topic/reply.

Can mods delete spam posts that are not reported? if global mod report it as bad then it reported again too many time can ignore users reports?
hero member
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If several people were to report the same post, some might end up with a bad grade. Saw it a few times, luckily accuracy remains at 100.
staff
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Technically, not all reports will be handled the same even if it's for the same post. Since, the reporters might be reporting for a different reason to another. One could be reporting for the wrong section, but technically not be correct, and another might be reporting for a duplicate thread, and could be right in doing so.

So, it's case by case. However, as correctly pointed out, generally if they're being reported for the exact same reason they will all be handled the same. Sometimes, a moderator might just delete a report, and not bother checking individual reports of the same report, since they're handling it in the order it pops up in their report queue. It's probably best from a moderators point of view to check all duplicate reports for the reasoning's, but unless you have a user script to bunch them up, this isn't always obvious since by default the report queue doesn't behave in such a way.
legendary
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So if its good everybody that has reported it gets a good report and so is it the same with a bad one or unhandled report !
All reports that are made for a post won't necessarily have the same status.
If a report is marked as bad, that doesn't mean all other reports are bad too. Moderators should handle other reports manually. It's possible that there's a good report among them.
legendary
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It will be handled for all that have reported the post or the thread the same !
So if its good everybody that has reported it gets a good report and so is it the same with a bad one or unhandled report !
You dont have to be worried to report posts , so more a post or thread gets reported i guess its better and maybe it will be faster handled.

As NeuroticFish has written it will be a bad one for you if you reporting a post twice , was and happens sometimes to me also  Cheesy
legendary
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Self explanatory title. As it says, what will the status of the report when two person report the same post? Assume, I have reported a post after someone else have reported. What will be my report status? Will it be unhandled for the person who reported later or it be same as the previous reporter?

1. I am almost sure it's considered good for all the reporters if it's handled. Just make sure you don't report something you have already reported.
2. I think that in some cases (like plagiarism) it may even happen that it's handled only after multiple reports.
legendary
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Your report status will depend on moderator's action.
If the post is deleted, all the reports made for that post are marked as good. Otherwise, the moderators should handle all the reports one by one.

For more information, read the post made by halab before.
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Self explanatory title. As it says, what will the status of the report when two person report the same post? Assume, I have reported a post after someone else have reported. What will be my report status? Will it be unhandled for the person who reported later or it be same as the previous reporter?
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