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September 05, 2023, 02:59:21 PM
#71
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
The important thing on here is that you shouldn't really be rushing up yourself on reaching out on a state which it cant be reached out on short time and with few experiences. Those people who are doing good are once newbies too and now and due to sufficient experience and knowledge then this is where they do make themselves to be that sustainable despite of this market volatility. It all matters about the knowledge you do have getting those things out of real experience which it did really involve some time and tons of trials and errors.

Market volatility is always been random or ever since this market had started on which there's no way on knowing on where prices could end up and shoot up or dump down. This what makes
traders do really challenged on how to know about those probable movements on which the price might able to reach on or would be going. Every year would really be having that corresponding movement which it might really be getting in line or would really be that the same on last years movements or not.It would really be entirely be depending on the market movement
which includes demand and recognition and some mix of manipulative acts.
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September 05, 2023, 01:29:42 PM
#70
well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.
It's perfect, because I also do DCA every week to keep adding to my assets and sell all three ATH targets.
Day traders who do not have sufficient knowledge and unstable emotional control will be more at risk.

That's the result of fast market movements for day traders.
I just need to relax for the long term, not to look at the chart continuously.

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I do agree that it should be something to care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
Good results in a short time cannot be done easily, it takes a good learning of technical and fundamental analysis.
Profits can be made in any way, trading fast, or long-term investment.
The most important thing is not to hesitate, or panic, and to have a good strategy to apply.
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September 05, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
#69
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
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September 05, 2023, 12:01:59 PM
#68
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.
well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.
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September 05, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
#67
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.
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September 05, 2023, 11:23:00 AM
#66
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
we all had that phase when trading felt like the biggest task and eventually with time and experience it becomes easy. market these days is really tough for intraday traders and scalpers.
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September 05, 2023, 07:55:16 AM
#65
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
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September 05, 2023, 02:52:48 AM
#64
]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
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September 04, 2023, 06:37:13 PM
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]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
They should realize and trying out to compare on what are the prices or value that we do have now comparing on last years which we arent that blind on not to see about those gradual increase and showing up some
recovery.Although it is really just that normal that we would really be seeing tons of ups and downs which it is really just that default on this market. We cant really just have that one long green candle because this is really just that a newbie approach towards the price.We've been here on this market for how many years and to those who had been sitting around do already knows on how it do behaves. Volatility is the most common thing that we are facing on this market on which this is the sole reason on why we are making profits out of those movements which it would really be that depending on how you would be able to go with the flow.
Market is always been volatile and trying out to oppose on such movement will really be resulting into losses. You should really be that wise and would really be that smart in regarding with your entry and exits because this is the primary thing that you would really be concern about.Market we do have now have that year cycles on which its expected that there would be bearish and bullish sentiment and consolidation period on which you would be facing on.
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September 04, 2023, 06:05:24 PM
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]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
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September 04, 2023, 04:47:35 PM
#61
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.
What do you mean by low volatility? If you check the price of each crypto coin, it is still far from its ATH. Bitcoin: -62% from its ATH, ETH: -66%, BNB: -68%, XRP: -85%, ADA: -92%, EOS: -97%. LUNC: -100%. These are some examples of the crypto prices now, they are still trying to grow and come back to its ATH. If you count their best price and the current price, there is still too high gap. That's mean the volatility is very high, right? So, it doesn't makes sense if you judge there is a low of volatility in the market.

If the price of some crypto coins still consolidate or take a sideway phase for few months, that's because they follow the Bitcoin price trend. You must realize that the price of Bitcoin seems a bit slow to rise. After BTC price passed $30k few months ago, it dropped again below $30k because of some FUDs. It is difficult to return to above $30k because it is still many bad news spreading. So, we must understand if it is rather slow to move.

I think this situation also happened in past, right?


current price from the ATH has no link with volatility. you are saying BTC is -62% from the highs, because in a broader frame btc moves like this from always. high volatility is daily moves. in a single day candle btc used to turn 10% very frequently before. now it doesnt even more 1% on a daily candle. which is borind n bad for daily traders and scalpers. You ask any scalper if he is interested in this kind of market and he will always deny. -62% from ATH relates nothing here. it dropped 30% in just a single day when bear market started. that kind of volatility is missing these days. thats what i mean here
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September 04, 2023, 03:57:24 PM
#60
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.
What do you mean by low volatility? If you check the price of each crypto coin, it is still far from its ATH. Bitcoin: -62% from its ATH, ETH: -66%, BNB: -68%, XRP: -85%, ADA: -92%, EOS: -97%. LUNC: -100%. These are some examples of the crypto prices now, they are still trying to grow and come back to its ATH. If you count their best price and the current price, there is still too high gap. That's mean the volatility is very high, right? So, it doesn't makes sense if you judge there is a low of volatility in the market.

If the price of some crypto coins still consolidate or take a sideway phase for few months, that's because they follow the Bitcoin price trend. You must realize that the price of Bitcoin seems a bit slow to rise. After BTC price passed $30k few months ago, it dropped again below $30k because of some FUDs. It is difficult to return to above $30k because it is still many bad news spreading. So, we must understand if it is rather slow to move.

I think this situation also happened in past, right?

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September 04, 2023, 09:25:02 AM
#59
Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.
Look out for crypto vix and you will see it can be said as non-volatile for now. thats the thing this kind of market is boring for scalpers n intraday traders. only investors and swing traders can work in this kind of market.


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That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.
It's a scheme that keeps happening, starting with bearish, big dumps that will throw out the short-term holders and those who are just panicky people.
and new holders will come in and have more confidence in their investments.

A sideway and very boring market will drive them out on its own, so there will be fewer people who are not in line.
Crypto volatility will always be there, it's still on hold now of course and this volatility will get crazier when the Halving happens and there is a lot of News for Bitcoin and crypto.
ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.

So we had record low volatility and then after the GBTC news we finally broke up and pumped hard, only to stall and head back down before the pump.

It was nothing but a fake move. And most likely the sideways trading action will continue. When we head towards the end of September we will see more volatility and October and November will reveal what type of action we will have whether it’s bullish or bearish. 
yea true and thats what major guys here are saying that let summers end we will definately see good moves, so just patiently watching the market for now with few small positions.
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September 04, 2023, 12:59:34 AM
#58
Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.
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September 03, 2023, 10:58:17 AM
#57
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Based on my personal observations, when there is a good news update in crypto today, suddenly there will be a pump in Bitcoin. When there is negative news in cryptocurrency, its value will dump in the market. In short, when this is the case, the use of technical analysis will be irrelevant or useless.

It also means that it is very difficult to read the volatility that is happening right now in the price of Bitcoin. Right now, the only good strategy I can see when the price drops is to take advantage and buy, then just hold. The resistance is also difficult to read; it seems that the tools will not be useful to make money because that is what happens in the market.
It's true that investors are quite tricky these days. The market does not move the way it used to in the past. A massive change in investors that has been observed between the earlier and the present period. Because of which there has been a huge change in the volatility of the crypto market. One of the main attractions of the crypto market is its volatility. Some believe that since it is staying in a stable price soon we are going to see a bullish move in the crypto market that has not been seen in the past, despite the recent stagnation in its price.
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September 03, 2023, 10:50:18 AM
#56
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That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.
It's a scheme that keeps happening, starting with bearish, big dumps that will throw out the short-term holders and those who are just panicky people.
and new holders will come in and have more confidence in their investments.

A sideway and very boring market will drive them out on its own, so there will be fewer people who are not in line.
Crypto volatility will always be there, it's still on hold now of course and this volatility will get crazier when the Halving happens and there is a lot of News for Bitcoin and crypto.
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September 03, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
#55
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Right now we are on the dull moments of bitcoin, this has happened before, go check 2016 and 2019 and you will see the similarities, sort of the same thing with about right now as well. When the crash happens, one year after that is about the same, and right now we are living about the same period as well.

I think this is quite similar to something like 2019 where it will not have a lot of moves, and it will be calm period and then we are going to do better for sure. I think it should be important to remember that it is not an easy thing to move bitcoin and it happens when it needs to be and rest of the time it doesn't move that much. We will see it go up, and volatility will be there, we just need to wait for it.

I don't remember every detail in 2019 but if you say the market is repeating what happened in 2019, does that mean we still have a chance that bitcoin will be dumped again? Do you remember? In 2019 bitcoin recovered to $12k but then in 2020 before the halving it was also dumped and dropped to $4k, and the reason is due to the Covid pandemic. If history continues to repeat itself, will we suffer another round of dumping? Will another black swan hit the market?
Probably because there is very less liquidity right now to goback up to 70k. to reach that level there needs to be a crash which will be again bought back and start the bull run. thats my opinion, anything can happen in the market though
No one can predict what will happen in the future, but if we believe history will continue to repeat itself then we need to plan for that bad scenario should it happen. I'm not sure if that will happen again, but I wouldn't rule it out either. That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.
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September 02, 2023, 11:05:26 PM
#54
So we had record low volatility and then after the GBTC news we finally broke up and pumped hard, only to stall and head back down before the pump.

It was nothing but a fake move. And most likely the sideways trading action will continue. When we head towards the end of September we will see more volatility and October and November will reveal what type of action we will have whether it’s bullish or bearish. 
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September 02, 2023, 10:53:29 PM
#53
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Based on my personal observations, when there is a good news update in crypto today, suddenly there will be a pump in Bitcoin. When there is negative news in cryptocurrency, its value will dump in the market. In short, when this is the case, the use of technical analysis will be irrelevant or useless.

It also means that it is very difficult to read the volatility that is happening right now in the price of Bitcoin. Right now, the only good strategy I can see when the price drops is to take advantage and buy, then just hold. The resistance is also difficult to read; it seems that the tools will not be useful to make money because that is what happens in the market.
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September 02, 2023, 06:55:00 PM
#52
i guess bitcoin just simply stabilizing nowadays, the fact that the price swing isn't also very common these days also become my concern initially then I remember that bitcoin has come long way.

I think nowadays instead of waiting the volatility to occur its better to allocate some of the money to invest instead, investing is quite effective nowadays, even with altcoins in general.
waiting for volatility might just waste our time after all as you said its getting lower and lower rate of volatility.
bitcoin movement so far is quite slow, even if there's correction it will come back to its previous point again, remember when space x tries to dump their assets, it quite literally have no effect for long term.
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