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Well, it dipped below 100 momentarily.

Fundamentally, I don't see why the price should go down too much. I would think that as Difficulty increases, the value of a BTC would also increase because the cost of mining new coins has increased (cost in terms of hardware anyway).

I think it is actually other way around now. Dynamic price increases made mining so profitable that miners could just hoard most mined bitcoins. Now profit margin are much thinner and miners will need to sell most of mined bitcoins and that means more than 3000 new bitcoin landing on market every day. Funny thing is that falling prices self-reinforces this effect.

That is actually a good point. Perhaps as difficulty increases and profit margins are thinner a larger portion of mined coins will go into actual circulation which lower price. I think that will take more time to happen though. Don't think we can attribute this price drop to that kind of behavior.

Also, in general the volume of bitcoin/fiat transactions is low -- too low to have a stable exchange rate.  There are 11 million btc existing and as long as the 24-hour btc/fiat volume is so low (usually much less than 1% of that), volatility is going to be a problem. It does not take much to manipulate and move the exchange rate.
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Stupid panic sellers  Grin
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$98 ... interesting
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Well, it dipped below 100 momentarily.

Fundamentally, I don't see why the price should go down too much. I would think that as Difficulty increases, the value of a BTC would also increase because the cost of mining new coins has increased (cost in terms of hardware anyway).

I think it is actually other way around now. Dynamic price increases made mining so profitable that miners could just hoard most mined bitcoins. Now profit margin are much thinner and miners will need to sell most of mined bitcoins and that means more than 3000 new bitcoin landing on market every day. Funny thing is that falling prices self-reinforces this effect.
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Well, it dipped below 100 momentarily.

Fundamentally, I don't see why the price should go down too much. I would think that as Difficulty increases, the value of a BTC would also increase because the cost of mining new coins has increased (cost in terms of hardware anyway).
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I think that when the first ASICS went online they took a huge share of net hashpower and was mining a lot of BTC. So they was hoarding a lot of them, creating a vacuum on the market, helped by the halving. That is the reason of the 226 spike.
But as much new ASICS are going online the competition between the ASICS owners become more and more strong and the shares of the total net hashpower are getting thiner for each of the ASCIS owner.
But they need to cover their investments and expenses, so they are cashing out as soon as they can and some of the early ASCICS owners are doing the same with a part of BTC hoarded previously, because they can't be sure they will get the same price soon.
That is the reason why the price is going down right now, from my point of view.
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sunday bloody sunday.

102 at mt.gox right now. almost at the 100 psychological barrier.

let's if it breaks.
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Market manipulation Smiley
In reality probably development funding and difficulty adjustments
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Maybe people using ripple to buy BTC with XRP's which doesn't require (and often person to person from hoarded investment BTC) then offloading to Mt Gox for USD.
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oh and valence. imagine if btc breaks down below 100 (the psychological barrier). do you think everyone will keep holding on? 

and for the people buying right now believing it is 'cheap' right now but then finds out it keeps going down. they'd go ape shit and click that sell button making it go down further.

now, what you gonna do?  that's the question.
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Any ideas?

Come on, we are in the middle of a bubble and you ask for reasons why it is going down again?

At the beginning of the year no one would have believed that we reach the old $ 31 mark already this year and where are we now?

I am quite sure that we have a slow descent into the $ 40-50 zone in front of us. From there we go either further down or up slowly. Nevertheless, the price would have multiplied compared to last year. A very good result, which gives hope to new highs in the coming years.

Old Hands can only rejoice about this little damper, because Bitcoin community increasingly turns into a fucking cult. This sucks. Now is the time to think about short sales OR further supplementation of money to buy in the death zone.  

Nevertheless, you should never sell all coins. Because it can also come out quite differently. And for that it need no reason too. It is simply the market.

Which is it? Are you "quite sure that we have a slow descent" to $50; or do you admit that "it can also come out quite differently?" Too many people think they have a crystal ball.

look at what is happening right now. price is dropping with a spike in volume. this indicates a sell down. so yes as of now btc is in a "slow descent". as to where it will be, who knows...  it could be 50, 30 or even 10. no one can predict these things accurately 100%. even the experts.

but the good news  is (if you're long btc) the trend could reverse.  when?  again who knows, hopefully tomorrow. but if you're a trader, it would be a good idea to go short. just have a stoploss in case the trend reverses. but as of now, trend is down.

You're an idiot.

lol you mad?

your btc is going down in price right now. deal with it. where it lands is anyone's guess.  

anyone know when coinsetter is rolling out their service?
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Other thread posted algorithmic-trading-for-dummies link giving a general overview of the share market, and touches on bitcoin as well.

So no real surprise then. This is just what it is.

Time to go transfer some cash and buy I guess.
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Any ideas?

Come on, we are in the middle of a bubble and you ask for reasons why it is going down again?

At the beginning of the year no one would have believed that we reach the old $ 31 mark already this year and where are we now?

I am quite sure that we have a slow descent into the $ 40-50 zone in front of us. From there we go either further down or up slowly. Nevertheless, the price would have multiplied compared to last year. A very good result, which gives hope to new highs in the coming years.

Old Hands can only rejoice about this little damper, because Bitcoin community increasingly turns into a fucking cult. This sucks. Now is the time to think about short sales OR further supplementation of money to buy in the death zone.  

Nevertheless, you should never sell all coins. Because it can also come out quite differently. And for that it need no reason too. It is simply the market.

Which is it? Are you "quite sure that we have a slow descent" to $50; or do you admit that "it can also come out quite differently?" Too many people think they have a crystal ball.

look at what is happening right now. price is dropping with a spike in volume. this indicates a sell down. so yes as of now btc is in a "slow descent". as to where it will be, who knows...  it could be 50, 30 or even 10. no one can predict these things accurately 100%. even the experts.

but the good news  is (if you're long btc) the trend could reverse.  when?  again who knows, hopefully tomorrow. but if you're a trader, it would be a good idea to go short. just have a stoploss in case the trend reverses. but as of now, trend is down.
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It could hit 50 overnight and be at 140 by the end of the weekend, right now the BTC market is a cinch to manipulate if you have enough starting funds.  If you consider things like a venture hedge fund holding 80k BTC, the price right now and the price in five minutes bear no resemblance other than luck and inaction. Cheesy
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if you got a friend who has a lot of btc, it would be a good idea to borrow some, sell it and buy it back at lower prices and give it back to him.

this could be just a start of a down trend
legendary
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Any ideas?

Come on, we are in the middle of a bubble and you ask for reasons why it is going down again?

At the beginning of the year no one would have believed that we reach the old $ 31 mark already this year and where are we now?

I am quite sure that we have a slow descent into the $ 40-50 zone in front of us. From there we go either further down or up slowly. Nevertheless, the price would have multiplied compared to last year. A very good result, which gives hope to new highs in the coming years.

Old Hands can only rejoice about this little damper, because Bitcoin community increasingly turns into a fucking cult. This sucks. Now is the time to think about short sales OR further supplementation of money to buy in the death zone.  

Nevertheless, you should never sell all coins. Because it can also come out quite differently. And for that it need no reason too. It is simply the market.

this +100

(i was going to post something. but this guy already said it all. )
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We should help the market.

Help yourself to help the market.

Did you help yourself?

Be careful kid.
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I see a lot of big sells on Fridays. Might be due to weekday traders cashing out for weekend shopping.  Cheesy
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We should help the market.

Help yourself to help the market.
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