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I think the community will not abandon anyone, but that addict is choosing to stay away from everyone. I know some groups of people whose behavior is so interconnected from a gambling point of view, it is difficult for them to communicate with people outside their nongambling train of thought. It can be agreed that some people have a lucky chance to win, but will that person be alert enough to escape or will they continue to lose even more money and the end result will still be a ruin?
As I expressed before, addiction is a cognitive distortion. If you are lucky enough to receive help to get rid of it, and more importantly, the addicts themselves also need to understand the mistakes they have made.
When those that are addicted exclude anyone that does not have the same condition, that is when their situation can take a turn for the worse, and that is because when interacting with people that are not addicted they can at least compare themselves to them and see a big difference on their behaviors, and understand this way that what they are doing is wrong.

However if everyone else around you is also an addict and they are engaging on the same behaviors, those behaviors not only become normal but even desirable, and someone in that situation will find it very difficult to escape from their addiction.
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Which one of those OPs have you experienced as having an addiction? Is it gambling or drug-tasting? Aren't they just as damaging to our personalities and the family we have or friends close to us? So, that means I don't choose between those two.

Yes, I gamble, but I don't want to get addicted to it; it's really just a hobby, especially the use of drugs. It's illegal in any country we go to, so why would I even try it if I know it's bad for our bodies?
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One way or another, money should bring, among other things, pleasure. For some people it is fun to save money, and for others it is fun to spend money. Gambling is designed to bring a certain kind of pleasure. The main thing is that the loss should not be more than the amount allocated for the game
Money can indeed bring pleasure, but there are some people who can get pleasure not from things they have to pay dearly for, there are even people who have spent a lot of their money but they don't necessarily get the pleasure they want, indeed It is true that gambling was created to get certain pleasure in the games that have been provided, but if we cannot control ourselves in the game then we will be played by the winnings and a lot of our money will be used up playing the game.
Gambling is an activity that uses money to gain pleasure. But even though they have used a lot of money, they won't feel satisfied if they haven't won. And it will be different from the purpose of gambling, where gambling is used by people to get pleasure and not to get winnings. For them, winning is a bonus that comes to those who are lucky so they will stop gambling once they have enough. When gambling, a person must have self-control so as not to be trapped by the temptation of gambling, which can make them lose more money. Only with self-control will we know when to stop gambling so that we will not lose a lot of money.

It's like exchanging money for fun, that's how it should be, so just bringing a small budget I think is enough to make you feel good. And on the other hand for those gamblers who always spend a lot of money to bet I think their goal is not to seek pleasure but on the contrary, they come with the aim of earning, so they are always often involved by making deposits again when they lose.

Exactly, winning is basically just a bonus for your dedicated involvement in the activity, and the name of the prize in any case is profit - profit, so it makes no sense if you come with the aim of always getting the prize in question. Misunderstanding leads people astray in gambling, and that's what makes them suffer a lot of losses instead of getting wins, there's no other way if you don't want to suffer such losses again than to justify your point of view on gambling, and after that I'm sure you will have no trouble in applying some limits there for prevention.
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Money can indeed bring pleasure, but there are some people who can get pleasure not from things they have to pay dearly for, there are even people who have spent a lot of their money but they don't necessarily get the pleasure they want, indeed It is true that gambling was created to get certain pleasure in the games that have been provided, but if we cannot control ourselves in the game then we will be played by the winnings and a lot of our money will be used up playing the game.
Gambling is an activity that uses money to gain pleasure. But even though they have used a lot of money, they won't feel satisfied if they haven't won. And it will be different from the purpose of gambling, where gambling is used by people to get pleasure and not to get winnings. For them, winning is a bonus that comes to those who are lucky so they will stop gambling once they have enough. When gambling, a person must have self-control so as not to be trapped by the temptation of gambling, which can make them lose more money. Only with self-control will we know when to stop gambling so that we will not lose a lot of money.
But it still depends on their goal, whether they are really looking for fun or really to make money. A gambler who is really looking for fun, so they don't care about the outcome of losing or winning, will still enjoy it.
In contrast to those who are looking for money who will clearly only be able to get enjoyment and satisfaction if they succeed in winning, these two conditions are very different and cannot be equated.
And it true that the real definition of gambling is for fun, not to make money, so people who have the goal of having fun will consider winnings to be just bonus for return on what they have lost.
But unfortunately, most gamblers only think about winning and making money, they really don't really understand the appropriate approach to take when gambling.
This is why many cases occur, such as suicide or even gamblers who experience mental stress and have problems getting into debt because they only chase winnings and in the end they lose big.
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One way or another, money should bring, among other things, pleasure. For some people it is fun to save money, and for others it is fun to spend money. Gambling is designed to bring a certain kind of pleasure. The main thing is that the loss should not be more than the amount allocated for the game
Money can indeed bring pleasure, but there are some people who can get pleasure not from things they have to pay dearly for, there are even people who have spent a lot of their money but they don't necessarily get the pleasure they want, indeed It is true that gambling was created to get certain pleasure in the games that have been provided, but if we cannot control ourselves in the game then we will be played by the winnings and a lot of our money will be used up playing the game.
Gambling is an activity that uses money to gain pleasure. But even though they have used a lot of money, they won't feel satisfied if they haven't won. And it will be different from the purpose of gambling, where gambling is used by people to get pleasure and not to get winnings. For them, winning is a bonus that comes to those who are lucky so they will stop gambling once they have enough. When gambling, a person must have self-control so as not to be trapped by the temptation of gambling, which can make them lose more money. Only with self-control will we know when to stop gambling so that we will not lose a lot of money.
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I have tried both of these things, but I don't think addiction will completely happen, but in my opinion, with drugs it will ruin lives faster. According to scientific research, dopamine is released faster when people use drugs, but basically, if we are an addict, it will almost lead us to many mistakes in life.

Maybe a gambling addict will need a lot of time to destroy his life. I have also witnessed many cases in life where they are like ignorant people, immersed in the feeling of wealth from making money.

After all, once addicted, it is difficult for them to have a chance to do it again, so those objects are always seen as an image that helps us realize the wrong things in life. And sometimes I also think the cause is due to life circumstances when an individual is not brave enough to escape, and they are controlled and blamed for the causes.

That's right, drugs will destroy our lives faster. Because when you're addicted to drugs, you won't have any luck here. It just ruins our lives. I agree that gambling will gradually ruin our lives if we become addicted. Indulging in gambling will disrupt his life. He may lose his job, and his family members will stay away.
But there is still luck in gambling if he is a heavy gambler. Luck was with him, and he won big. I would like to ask, will people say he is addicted to gambling and shun him? We will learn lessons. Or feel like we should try our luck?
I think the community will not abandon anyone, but that addict is choosing to stay away from everyone. I know some groups of people whose behavior is so interconnected from a gambling point of view, it is difficult for them to communicate with people outside their nongambling train of thought. It can be agreed that some people have a lucky chance to win, but will that person be alert enough to escape or will they continue to lose even more money and the end result will still be a ruin?
As I expressed before, addiction is a cognitive distortion. If you are lucky enough to receive help to get rid of it, and more importantly, the addicts themselves also need to understand the mistakes they have made.
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One way or another, money should bring, among other things, pleasure. For some people it is fun to save money, and for others it is fun to spend money. Gambling is designed to bring a certain kind of pleasure. The main thing is that the loss should not be more than the amount allocated for the game
Money can indeed bring pleasure, but there are some people who can get pleasure not from things they have to pay dearly for, there are even people who have spent a lot of their money but they don't necessarily get the pleasure they want, indeed It is true that gambling was created to get certain pleasure in the games that have been provided, but if we cannot control ourselves in the game then we will be played by the winnings and a lot of our money will be used up playing the game.
maybe what you mean is a gambler who spends a lot of money just to chase his losses so he can't feel the sensation of pleasure in betting because his mind is focused on the loss, is my understanding correct?
In this condition, it seems that it is only about the mindset of each gambler, when gamblers who only spend small amounts of money with the intention of gambling are looking for fun, trying their luck, of course they can enjoy every betting session, whether they win or lose, they can always laugh because for these gamblers, even if they lose it is a funny thing to make a mistake in betting.
while gamblers who spend a lot of money have the thought of immediately going to the casino with a large budget to chase previous losses, of course they will never feel happy even though they get a win, they still feel dissatisfied with the win they got because they haven't achieved their previous losses and when they lose, this gambler tend to be more emotional without having joy in their hearts.

money always brings pleasure and can be used for anything as long as we have the intention to have fun, but money can bring destruction as long as we have the intention for bad things such as chasing losses or following addictions and in the end losing money and only getting regrets.
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Gambling is more addicting, I think. I’m saying this because I believe that a drug addict who starts hanging around the right people may not want to take drugs cause he either doesn’t feel like it (based the company) or maybe it doesn’t come to his mind. But a gambler? Many gamblers are fueled by greed, so it’s not surprising if they bring out their phones almost anywhere just to book a game or load their favorite gambling site so they can play and win more money. It’s just my opinion though, and I know very well that drug can be intensive, but the number of people who gamble are more than that who do drugs… gambling is simpler yet easily accessible.
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I have tried both of these things, but I don't think addiction will completely happen, but in my opinion, with drugs it will ruin lives faster. According to scientific research, dopamine is released faster when people use drugs, but basically, if we are an addict, it will almost lead us to many mistakes in life.

Maybe a gambling addict will need a lot of time to destroy his life. I have also witnessed many cases in life where they are like ignorant people, immersed in the feeling of wealth from making money.

After all, once addicted, it is difficult for them to have a chance to do it again, so those objects are always seen as an image that helps us realize the wrong things in life. And sometimes I also think the cause is due to life circumstances when an individual is not brave enough to escape, and they are controlled and blamed for the causes.

That's right, drugs will destroy our lives faster. Because when you're addicted to drugs, you won't have any luck here. It just ruins our lives. I agree that gambling will gradually ruin our lives if we become addicted. Indulging in gambling will disrupt his life. He may lose his job, and his family members will stay away.
But there is still luck in gambling if he is a heavy gambler. Luck was with him, and he won big. I would like to ask, will people say he is addicted to gambling and shun him? We will learn lessons. Or feel like we should try our luck?
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Good for you that you learned something but for me, we can't generalized things here because it's depend on how those people who involved in either drugs or gambling being responsible at their actions. The pressure is also not the same in drugs and gambling, wherein you can't expect that the former is risking their lives that's why you see them as more a bit of responsible than those gamblers.

In my conclusion, whether they are drug addicts or worst gambling addicts, let's hope that someday they will soon take the right path.
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I have tried both of these things, but I don't think addiction will completely happen, but in my opinion, with drugs it will ruin lives faster. According to scientific research, dopamine is released faster when people use drugs, but basically, if we are an addict, it will almost lead us to many mistakes in life.

Maybe a gambling addict will need a lot of time to destroy his life. I have also witnessed many cases in life where they are like ignorant people, immersed in the feeling of wealth from making money.

After all, once addicted, it is difficult for them to have a chance to do it again, so those objects are always seen as an image that helps us realize the wrong things in life. And sometimes I also think the cause is due to life circumstances when an individual is not brave enough to escape, and they are controlled and blamed for the causes.
Gambling can also ruin a person's life. There are many examples of what a person experiences when he has not gambled and after he gambles. Before gambling, a person had a better life. But after getting to know gambling, a person's life experiences a decline and changes from the previous one. He had nothing left because he had to sell his belongings to fulfill his passion for gambling. And it can happen quickly, especially when a person does not have good self-control, which makes him do everything in a short time.

But whatever his addiction, he can change his life from good to bad even if he doesn't recognize what has happened to him. He only saw that he no longer had anything, and even his life had changed drastically compared to before. That is if he has the awareness to see the changes, but most addicts cannot see the changes. That's because he will get deeper into his addiction, making it difficult for him to heal.
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.



Hi, friend! You told a very interesting story that may surprise people who are far from this and are not familiar with such things.
You talked about drug addicts and people suffering from gambling addiction. I would like to remind you of another type of people who are drug addicts with a severe gambling addiction. All the money they have for a short time they spend on games.
I don’t know what is stronger, I only know that God can really help. These are not fairy tales, this is the truth.
Anyway, thanks for the story and good luck
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Great point! That's what I think too. Of course, there are other activities that can unstress you, like playing some sport games or just working out, and for some people it's writing and for others it's watching good movies, but you are right, gambling, sex and intoxication are the strongest, and gambling is probably the safest of them all. It's not suitable for kids, and not suitable for adults who thinks like 12 y.o. kids, that's what must be kept in mind though.

In the sense that it means gambling activities can only be carried out by people who are capable, the word capable that I mean is not financially capable, because I believe that everyone can make money every day, as long as he wants to work and try. The word capable is talking about a person's ability to control gambling activities and their finances. Also his ability to increase the possibility that he can get a win in his gambling activities.

When it comes to exercise, I always do it because it is part of my needs, so that my physical health can be maintained. And to maintain my mental health, I must have an activity that can express my emotions when I experience stress, one of which is gambling. And why do most men use gambling as a place to vent their emotions and frustrations? because most men find it very difficult to express their sadness, annoyance and emotions. The thing is different with a woman, she can easily express her sadness, annoyance and emotions. Where when he is sad he can express it by crying, and when he is upset he can express it by venting or telling his friends or going shopping, and when he is emotional he can easily express his emotions by getting angry at his partner. Meanwhile, a man finds it very difficult to express this, so in the end he expresses this through his hobby, namely gambling.
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There are many people who gamble only for fun but after becoming addicted to gambling cannot be stopped. I used to gamble just for fun at first but later it got me addicted. Not only gambling, people are addicted to many things but the habit of losing money is an exception, because when there is a shortage of money then people change their behavior. However no one is forcing you to gamble or even befriending you, so gambling is your personal ritual and you can spend your money anywhere.

One way or another, money should bring, among other things, pleasure. For some people it is fun to save money, and for others it is fun to spend money. Gambling is designed to bring a certain kind of pleasure. The main thing is that the loss should not be more than the amount allocated for the game
Spend what you can afford to lose. This works for those who can control themselves. But I doubt it works for a crackhead. If there's money they are drooling to buy their cocaine or any kind of substance that will make them high. It's way different than how it is with gambling. Somehow a gambler is trying to win against the house which takes an enormous amount of money and effort but he ain't drooling to inject something into his body.
Both do need money to spend but in drugs, there's a chance you will become a pest to society because they are not getting anything from the cracks that they buy. There's no tax in it, unlike the gambling industry which pays a hefty amount just so they can continue their business. I do hate drug addicts more because most of them are prone to doing bad things, unimaginable things and I've seen a lot of it. Gambling addicts on the other hand, just sit in one position and they will have mood swings when they lose but I have never seen one who will kill because they are high in gambling.
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I have tried both of these things, but I don't think addiction will completely happen, but in my opinion, with drugs it will ruin lives faster. According to scientific research, dopamine is released faster when people use drugs, but basically, if we are an addict, it will almost lead us to many mistakes in life.

Maybe a gambling addict will need a lot of time to destroy his life. I have also witnessed many cases in life where they are like ignorant people, immersed in the feeling of wealth from making money.

After all, once addicted, it is difficult for them to have a chance to do it again, so those objects are always seen as an image that helps us realize the wrong things in life. And sometimes I also think the cause is due to life circumstances when an individual is not brave enough to escape, and they are controlled and blamed for the causes.
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There are three escapes of a man when he gets a problem or is experiencing stress. These are gambling, women (sex) and getting drunk (drugs or alcohol). Of the three there is no better, because it has its own risks. when you gamble you will risk losing the money and wealth you have. When you choose to make comfort women your outlet for all the problems you are experiencing, then you will be at risk of HIV, hypothyroidism B and others, which are diseases that are difficult to cure. And when you choose to get drunk by consuming drugs or liquor, it will slowly damage your body and if you are addicted to drugs, not only will your body be damaged but your wealth will also run out, because the price of drugs is quite expensive.


And of these three things, it seems that gambling related to the impact is not too bad, but still if we play without good self-control, this gambling will become an activity that is very detrimental to us. Because it will cause significant risks.

Great point! That's what I think too. Of course, there are other activities that can unstress you, like playing some sport games or just working out, and for some people it's writing and for others it's watching good movies, but you are right, gambling, sex and intoxication are the strongest, and gambling is probably the safest of them all. It's not suitable for kids, and not suitable for adults who thinks like 12 y.o. kids, that's what must be kept in mind though.
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There are many people who gamble only for fun but after becoming addicted to gambling cannot be stopped. I used to gamble just for fun at first but later it got me addicted. Not only gambling, people are addicted to many things but the habit of losing money is an exception, because when there is a shortage of money then people change their behavior. However no one is forcing you to gamble or even befriending you, so gambling is your personal ritual and you can spend your money anywhere.

One way or another, money should bring, among other things, pleasure. For some people it is fun to save money, and for others it is fun to spend money. Gambling is designed to bring a certain kind of pleasure. The main thing is that the loss should not be more than the amount allocated for the game
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This is not a fair comparison, because crack heads do spend money on drugs too, the funny thing is they don't feel right in their system unless they take the drugs, and running out of drugs is something they can't live with, they would rather go broke than not have the drug in their system.

Maybe the crackheads you see, but crack heads can be much worse than addicted gamblers, been a drug addict is way scary, because it involves their health life style, they only way drugs running in their gains and nothing else, that's why you will see some of the turning into a stick and have massive loss of weight.

Drugs feels good for them than eating, so to me there is no different in addiction, it's something that's generally bad, what can you advice a crack head that he will listen to you? If he gets better the next them he will tell you that you never advice him, they easily lose their head due to the drugs but gamblers isn't this cruel to themselves, they only waste money on casino games.
I agree with that. I know that most people say that gambling addiction is the worst but that's not the reality, a gambling addict might get broke and lose everything because of their addiction but they will at least be physically fit and active and won't be sick or something if they don't get to gamble. But when a drug addict doesn't get to take drugs, they can't eat food, they can't sleep, they start feeling anxious and they will have pain in most parts of their body.

I say that because I see drug addicts in front of me every day, and there are drug addicts who I know who aren't in that much bad situation but they still have the same things. They can't eat food if they don't do drugs, they can't even go to the toilet and take a shit with peace if they don't take drugs first.
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There are many people who gamble only for fun but after becoming addicted to gambling cannot be stopped. I used to gamble just for fun at first but later it got me addicted. Not only gambling, people are addicted to many things but the habit of losing money is an exception, because when there is a shortage of money then people change their behavior. However no one is forcing you to gamble or even befriending you, so gambling is your personal ritual and you can spend your money anywhere.

We have lesser individuals gambling for fun, this days all individual care abou is earning, how they can make money from what they're doing and gambling is one of them which is also why we have a higher rate of addicts then before because they're getting more addicted as they try to chase after money from gambling. If you're looking for money, gambling is probably the worst thing that you should be doing as more people lose money than making money.

If you gamble for entertainment, you'll enjoy gambling more and can do it without been afraid of losing and this will make you very confident of the bets that you're placing which can make you to win more games than before. Just like the rich individuals that gamble without overthinking, if we start doing the same thing, we'll be making profits without thinking about it and making our minds to be obsessed with making money from gambling and turning into addicts.
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The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.
We survived by providing the important mails for our jobs. Seriously chasing the bag and not minding any business with anybody that doesn't involved payment slip. A person can be addictive to different sectors of things he or she gets engaged, it can be either drugs, music or gambling which I regard to become the very worst set of gamblers, these people have nothing to give other than thinking or having fantasy of the good lifestyle with well stable mainstream of cool cash and not some random chances which shouldn't be settle for any longer.

People are simply divided into two types in their attitude to both finances and their personal life. Someone likes excessive risk, does not take care of himself and the people around him, and someone considers every cent and values himself and others. Naturally, both of these types may be interested in gambling. Even if the first type will get into gambling addiction, it is likely he will be able to get rid of it, the second type is unlikely to be able to get rid of gambling addiction and will do things that will lead to a sad ending. In fact, a lot depends on our character and perception of life.
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