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Addiction is addiction. It does not matter how the mechanism of dysfunctional brain chemistry is triggered but the effects are what we call "addiction". Whether it was a drug or gambling addiction does not matter. The difference is physical. A drug addiction will literally bring your body into irreversible ruin and maybe even into death.

But again, not everyone who does drugs is a drug addict just like not everyone who gambles is a gambling addict.

It is important to make distinctions.

I don't think comparing drug addiction to gambling addiction is a good thing, though they are not advisable or recommendable to any one but comparing them is just not acceptable, reason I said so is, gambling addict doesn't necessarily mean someone who is gambling irresponsibly. However I have seen some gambling addict, who have turned gambling to their life career, and the interesting part is that most of the time they make a lot of wins, like in thousands of dollar. And most of these gamblers have built their houses from money they got from gamble, though some of their losses can be quite big as well. While on the other hand there is no gain from drug addiction, but rather they're just reducing their lifespan by first, damaging some organs in there body like lungs and liver.
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No doubt that's both drug and gambling addict are all bad, but if am to differentiate from both addiction, I think I will say that gambling addict are way better off that drug addict and trust me, I have seen both addicts up close as my locality is filled with both types of addict and sometimes I wonder what's been done to even tackle the issue and the most surprising part is that most of this addict are a comparison of both types which is drug and aslo a core drug abuse and believe this combination is way deadly than anything you can think of.
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.



Addiction is addiction. It does not matter how the mechanism of dysfunctional brain chemistry is triggered but the effects are what we call "addiction". Whether it was a drug or gambling addiction does not matter. The difference is physical. A drug addiction will literally bring your body into irreversible ruin and maybe even into death.

But again, not everyone who does drugs is a drug addict just like not everyone who gambles is a gambling addict.

It is important to make distinctions.
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Gambling is a drug itself (just like music). Two things people don’t tend to associate with being drugs, but they technically are. They both can/do alter brain chemistry just like traditional “drugs” and can be highly addictive. Personally I’d rather be addicted to gambling than crack. Gambling may make you go broke, but it’s not destroying your body as much as crack. Nor is it nearly as illegal in most places. Everything in moderation.

Sure everything in moderation. The problem is those hard drugs people are talking about here in this thread can easily make people addicted to them even with a single dose or taste. It is not like gambling or music, which one should need to progressibly partake in them to get seriously hooked. Actually, Crack is specially infamous because that specifical property it has to make people addicted in the first taste.

So, I agree with you. It is okey to enjoy things with moderation: alcohol, gambling, junk food, Sugar, coffee. But when comes to opioids and cocaine/crack, it is better just to stay the hell out/away from them.

Once you taste drugs like this, the people you are with you are going to be sticking it to their minds that you are among them and will always invite you whenever they party. It only takes one Yes to these kinds of people and you are hooked and part of the club.

If they are to add gambling to this kind of vice, it will just take less than an hour to turn a table game into a brawling to-combat fight for brains are already tweaked.


Cocaine or crack is a very dangerous drug and if you are addicted to it you will suffer if you don't use it and it can even cause death, and it is best to keep away or avoid it if you know someone who uses it.
And gambling using cocaine or crack is the same as asking for trouble, because cocaine can make users experience paranoia, hallucinations, panic, irritability and violence. And this will be chaos at the table that cannot be controlled.
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In my opinion, of course the two cases above will have a bad impact on them, of course their economy will definitely be disrupted. The effects of addiction will help them think illogically, of course it will lead them to crime to steal and channel back the effects of their addiction. You have taken the right steps to stop your addiction.


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Gambling is a drug itself (just like music). Two things people don’t tend to associate with being drugs, but they technically are. They both can/do alter brain chemistry just like traditional “drugs” and can be highly addictive. Personally I’d rather be addicted to gambling than crack. Gambling may make you go broke, but it’s not destroying your body as much as crack. Nor is it nearly as illegal in most places. Everything in moderation.

Sure everything in moderation. The problem is those hard drugs people are talking about here in this thread can easily make people addicted to them even with a single dose or taste. It is not like gambling or music, which one should need to progressibly partake in them to get seriously hooked. Actually, Crack is specially infamous because that specifical property it has to make people addicted in the first taste.

So, I agree with you. It is okey to enjoy things with moderation: alcohol, gambling, junk food, Sugar, coffee. But when comes to opioids and cocaine/crack, it is better just to stay the hell out/away from them.

Once you taste drugs like this, the people you are with you are going to be sticking it to their minds that you are among them and will always invite you whenever they party. It only takes one Yes to these kinds of people and you are hooked and part of the club.

If they are to add gambling to this kind of vice, it will just take less than an hour to turn a table game into a brawling to-combat fight for brains are already tweaked.

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Gambling is a drug itself (just like music). Two things people don’t tend to associate with being drugs, but they technically are. They both can/do alter brain chemistry just like traditional “drugs” and can be highly addictive. Personally I’d rather be addicted to gambling than crack. Gambling may make you go broke, but it’s not destroying your body as much as crack. Nor is it nearly as illegal in most places. Everything in moderation.

Sure everything in moderation. The problem is those hard drugs people are talking about here in this thread can easily make people addicted to them even with a single dose or taste. It is not like gambling or music, which one should need to progressibly partake in them to get seriously hooked. Actually, Crack is specially infamous because that specifical property it has to make people addicted in the first taste.

So, I agree with you. It is okey to enjoy things with moderation: alcohol, gambling, junk food, Sugar, coffee. But when comes to opioids and cocaine/crack, it is better just to stay the hell out/away from them.
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Gambling is a drug itself (just like music). Two things people don’t tend to associate with being drugs, but they technically are. They both can/do alter brain chemistry just like traditional “drugs” and can be highly addictive. Personally I’d rather be addicted to gambling than crack. Gambling may make you go broke, but it’s not destroying your body as much as crack. Nor is it nearly as illegal in most places. Everything in moderation.
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That's true, but I would like to add a little bit, drug addiction or gambling is just as detrimental, both of these things have adverse effects and are also dangerous. First, both of these things involve money which is an important role, both of these things cannot be done if there is no money in drugs as far as I know "there is money, there is goods". And in gambling "there is money, there is a game" that's what I know. And secondly, addiction to gambling or drugs will harm their health sooner or later their health will be damaged because they are always concerned with their addiction, that way they will damage their health, for example drugs are obvious if addicted to this one thing health is at stake, drugs can damage thinking, depression, anxiety, and severe mental disorders. Gambling addiction will damage health, relationships, attitudes, mindsets can also lead to mental disorders as well as drugs, there is nothing good in these two things if they have entered addiction. It would be nice to gamble just for fun, avoid addiction and also avoid things that trigger addiction. As for drugs, I think it's better not to be rash.

But doing drugs just for fun wouldn't be nice, would it? And that's the difference I'm talking about. Drugs are much more dangerous than slots. It's true that a gambling addicted person needs professional help to be cured, but there are cases when get off of the hook by their own, while with drug addiction it's never the case. It's very important to make a distinction between the two. We are promoting gambling sites here, but we would never promote heroin or crack.

There are three escapes of a man when he gets a problem or is experiencing stress. These are gambling, women (sex) and getting drunk (drugs or alcohol). Of the three there is no better, because it has its own risks. when you gamble you will risk losing the money and wealth you have. When you choose to make comfort women your outlet for all the problems you are experiencing, then you will be at risk of HIV, hypothyroidism B and others, which are diseases that are difficult to cure. And when you choose to get drunk by consuming drugs or liquor, it will slowly damage your body and if you are addicted to drugs, not only will your body be damaged but your wealth will also run out, because the price of drugs is quite expensive.


And of these three things, it seems that gambling related to the impact is not too bad, but still if we play without good self-control, this gambling will become an activity that is very detrimental to us. Because it will cause significant risks.
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Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.


That is not true at all and it is a super distant mistake as some people say.I know drug addicts who have given their wife,mother,sister for sex just to buy drugs and while gamblers also the most addicted of all have given their wives in extreme cases I don't know any case where they have given the sister or mother to do just that,this as the best analogy to make it clear that there are no worse people on the planet than drug addicts and comparing gamblers to them I took it as a heavy personal offense as I am also a gambler although not addicted.

Crack heads are never ever more responsible than gamblers,they sell their house,threat people for money and also the above things which are the worse.

The drug addict does everything for a single dose. But mostly by themselves. Drug addict women easily turns into a prostitute. But they have less say on their family.
That again is not much different from to what extent gambling addict goes. But the suffering transfers to the family.
Drug addiction nearly destroys the person but gambling addiction have much larger effect on the whole family. Drug addiction could be easily identified unlike gambling one.
Hardcore gamblers would never define themselves as gambling addict unless they lose everything.
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This is the reason on why I advocate for change and discipline. At the end of the day, everything is bad when it is too much. Gambling is not entirely bad- what makes it destructive is if the person cannot control his greed which can slowly transition to madness.
The adage says that anything in excess will never be good, that's why there are always certain limits that ensure that everything is not excessive. For example, I regulate myself by limiting my budget and time when gambling, then I make it an alarm for myself. When should we stop gambling, I think if it is done in a disciplined manner everything will be fine and it won't make us addicts.

Gambling addiction is difficult to cure and it is the same as drug addiction, which is why both of them, if done and used excessively, will experience it. It is true that gambling is not always bad as long as it is within certain limits, because gambling should be able to be entertainment for someone who is really looking for it. pleasure is not just money.
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Addiction's no joke, wheather it's drugs or gambling. Both mean you just can't stop, no matter how bad you wanna.  With drugs, getting hooked is part physical - your body needs that fix.  Gambling's different cuz it's all in your head. The main thing is, addicts are always chasing after that high or rush they get from their habit, whether its drugs gambling, or something else.

I agree with you completely.

Actually, I am currently living with someone who is struggling with his drug and gambling addiction. Unfortunately, he became worse when the pandemic happened which further made him really unstable to live with. Not only did his relationship with the family members became sour, he is slowly self-destructing himself with the society (e.g. lots of debts, etc.) as he is currently unemployed.

This is the reason on why I advocate for change and discipline. At the end of the day, everything is bad when it is too much. Gambling is not entirely bad- what makes it destructive is if the person cannot control his greed which can slowly transition to madness.
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both drug addiction and gambling are equally bad, there is nothing better or worse than these two types of addiction. as long as it's an addiction, it's bad.


I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.


what about the drug addict who buys tens of dollars of drugs when he has no money to rent a house? no one can judge that drug addicts are more responsible about money than gambling addicts. that addiction causes them to lose rationality and think logically. these addicts do not hesitate to waste money for their pleasure and do not think about managing their money anymore.
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Where I live there are a lot of drug addicts but less gambling addicts. Today I went a bit out of my area on one of my errands and while there I tried to listen to some discussions of drug addicts as well as gamblers. At first they were discussing the various local casinos and gambling there, and they were smoking, not realizing that they were taking drugs. All of the people who were talking to each other were drug addicts as well as involved in gambling. I realized from being there that addiction to drugs and gambling are two bad things. They had some other junior boys with them who would probably get addicted to drugs and gambling after a while. 

Drugs should be completely avoided and gambling can be played without becoming addicted to gambling.
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That's true, but I would like to add a little bit, drug addiction or gambling is just as detrimental, both of these things have adverse effects and are also dangerous. First, both of these things involve money which is an important role, both of these things cannot be done if there is no money in drugs as far as I know "there is money, there is goods". And in gambling "there is money, there is a game" that's what I know. And secondly, addiction to gambling or drugs will harm their health sooner or later their health will be damaged because they are always concerned with their addiction, that way they will damage their health, for example drugs are obvious if addicted to this one thing health is at stake, drugs can damage thinking, depression, anxiety, and severe mental disorders. Gambling addiction will damage health, relationships, attitudes, mindsets can also lead to mental disorders as well as drugs, there is nothing good in these two things if they have entered addiction. It would be nice to gamble just for fun, avoid addiction and also avoid things that trigger addiction. As for drugs, I think it's better not to be rash.

But doing drugs just for fun wouldn't be nice, would it? And that's the difference I'm talking about. Drugs are much more dangerous than slots. It's true that a gambling addicted person needs professional help to be cured, but there are cases when get off of the hook by their own, while with drug addiction it's never the case. It's very important to make a distinction between the two. We are promoting gambling sites here, but we would never promote heroin or crack.
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For me any kind of addiction is bad. Although the ones OP is discussing are worst addiction. Gambling destroys finance of an addict and drug addiction destroys health. Ultimately both cause big issues with the family of addicts. In the end all addicts commit crime go to the extreme to satisfy thier addiction. An addict is an addict regardless of the kind of addiction they have.
Nothing positive can be expected from gambling rather nothing but family turmoil comes from gambling. A gambling addict does not hesitate to do any criminal activity just to give priority to his addiction without any regard for family peace and economic status. When a gambler is in a financial crisis, he commits more serious crimes, particularly heinous crimes such as theft and murder to finance his gambling. To manage gambling money in rural areas, many serious crimes of violence against women, including divorce, are being organized. Therefore, gambling cannot bring any positive results in our social context.
The financial strain caused by gambling addiction can indeed result in criminal activities, because people may resort to theft or other illegal means to fund their habits. This jeopardizes not only them self but also poses a threat to the safety and security of others in the community. The mention of crimes such as theft and murder highlights the extreme measures some individuals may take when trapped in the cycle of addiction and financial desperation.

The toll on family relationships, including divorce and domestic issues, is another grim aspect of the social impact of gambling. The societies need to address the issue of gambling addiction. This can play a crucial role in mitigating the negative consequences associated with addicted gambler's negative behavior. Those all underscores the need for a comprehensive approach to tackle the social challenges posed by gambling, including measures to prevent addiction and address the wider societal implications of problem gambling.

There are many ways to avoid gambling addiction, such as, not borrowing money, avoiding friends who are addicted to gambling, not gambling beyond the limit and others, actually many things can be done to avoid addiction. But if they consider gambling as a source of money income it will be difficult because they already have confidence in gambling that will provide income for them, even though it can be sure that the wins and losses they get must be greater than the losses they get.
They should be able to gamble with common sense so as not to get addicted to gambling. Because if you are addicted to gambling, it seems difficult to recover from this gambling addiction. There will also be many harmful effects if they are addicted to gambling, one of which is the relationship in the family as you said that gambling can also trigger depression, anxiety disorders and even worse suicide, increase the risk of children to gamble when they grow up, also the family will experience tremendous stress, because financial problems are the main problems faced by every family if one of the family members is involved in gambling addiction then their finances will be difficult because just one person who is addicted to gambling can cause many problems in his family. Not to mention that they may commit crimes as you said in the beginning.
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The effect of both depends on which area of life that we think is affected most or worsely so. Is it to the finance or to our health and we know that health and good living is above money. I believe if someone is taking in substance that will keep destroying their organs then the person is causing more internal and external harm to himself. Physically, a drug addict may look more unkept than a gambling addict because of the destruction of the organ.

Not saying the mental state of the person.  To much intoxication may affect the way a person think or communicate with their surrounding.  I have seen lots of drug addict in my place losing their sanity, probably because of the chemical they take in.

I agree with @OP that gambling addict are more loose when it comes to finance spending than a drug addict because, a drug addict always reserve his money to buy cracks.

The aspect that I'm looking towards is the health not the finance. Moreover, you will have a drug addict also being a gambler but you may not find a gambler also embarking on drug.

Gambling addicts also harm their health.  Imagine a gambling addict playing almost 24/7 due to uncontrolled urge to gamble.  It is that, gambling activities takes long time to take effect on ones health unlike drug addicts since drug addicts are taking unwelcome substance in their body.

there was once a meth addict i know where we go to college together, the guy is composed and takes meth to study business law. the exam in business law is more of a scenario given by the professor and we are to give resolution. he studied hard for it, he seemed dedicated to his degree the last time i knew he worked in the government office.

named Darwin, if i just didn't deactivate my facebook i would have been chatting with him still. meth made him focus on his studies. it may have other effects on someone but to him, he uses it to his advantage. but an impulsive gambler + meth = homelessness.
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No matter how bad the situation is, never think gambling is a source of money. When you're struggle in financial and want to make more money, then there's nothing wrong to quit gambling for a while. Just focus until you achieve a comfort zone, then you can try to back become a gambler.

It's not about drug addiction or gambling addiction, you shouldn't fall into one of them if you have a choice to avoid that.

Gambling shouldn't be used as one of the distractions in life when you are facing many problems. Not only that it could affect you financially as well mentally and emotionally. Some people might say that they are having fun when they are gambling, which is fine as long as they gamble responsibly and it doesn't affect themselves and their families. When you are struggling financially, gambling shouldn't be one of the things that you will have to think about as the source of money, cause not only it can worsen your situation but there's a point that you would be in debt in some casinos. There are a lot of things as an alternative to distraction as well as a source of money that are much more legal and better, I am not saying gambling is illegal but it is really open for everyone cause casinos don't care if you would put all your money in their casino as they would benefit more, even the government cause casino is one of the tax sources of them.
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The effect of both depends on which area of life that we think is affected most or worsely so. Is it to the finance or to our health and we know that health and good living is above money. I believe if someone is taking in substance that will keep destroying their organs then the person is causing more internal and external harm to himself. Physically, a drug addict may look more unkept than a gambling addict because of the destruction of the organ.

Not saying the mental state of the person.  To much intoxication may affect the way a person think or communicate with their surrounding.  I have seen lots of drug addict in my place losing their sanity, probably because of the chemical they take in.

I agree with @OP that gambling addict are more loose when it comes to finance spending than a drug addict because, a drug addict always reserve his money to buy cracks.

The aspect that I'm looking towards is the health not the finance. Moreover, you will have a drug addict also being a gambler but you may not find a gambler also embarking on drug.

Gambling addicts also harm their health.  Imagine a gambling addict playing almost 24/7 due to uncontrolled urge to gamble.  It is that, gambling activities takes long time to take effect on ones health unlike drug addicts since drug addicts are taking unwelcome substance in their body.
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No form of addiction is better than another. Food addiction has led to several health problems and even death. The impact of drug addiction on finances and health is also severe, gambling addiction has also caused harm in the lives of many people. So it is better to have total control of any activity you engage in.
You are right. The intensity of an addiction will vary from individual to individual. There are severe addictions on gambling, drugs or food, and they are all equally bad and harmful due to their severity, and consequently their impact on the life of the addicted one, who will face social, physical and psychic prejudices. Some of them die from health diseases, others deteriorate the state of mind, going delusional, aggressive or depressed and others go bankrupted. All these potential consequences are connected and can happen independently or following each other.

OP tries to paint gambling as the biggest evil and drugs usage as a minor one. However, drugs usage is a serious issue and can lead its users to develop serious diseases like schizophrenia. There are studies which also show the increasement in cases of autism among drugs users' children.
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