What if bitcoin was PLAN B by the Goverments? - page 4.

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Quote from: 2btc on February 09, 2015, 03:39:02 AM

Bitcoin isn't their Plan B. They would never introduce something they can't control.

Quote from: runpaint on February 08, 2015, 01:19:07 PM

Marxism, Communism, and Socialism have failed repeatedly, and have always hurt the poor and lowered the quality of life for everyone. But despite repeated failures, they still succeed in spreading the same failed ideas on the internet.

This, the current Government systems love their Fiats it makes all the ones who they want rich and can control what they do with it, hell there's a reason there is no gold standard fiat anymore.

I don't think the goverment is involved in Bitcoin because they can't control the protocol wereas they control "the protocol" of fiat creation.

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Quote from: runpaint on February 09, 2015, 06:47:34 AM

Climate change, or Global Warming?

To clear some confusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU

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Honest 80s business!

Bitcoin can't give governments control over the currency, which they very likely are going to want. The only way I see Bitcoin being helpful for states would be to buy a certain amount on the (off?)-chance of it becoming big enough to tackle the regular financial systems and handle the volumes involved when states handle money.

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Could be...but why should a government bother with something as small as Bitcoin market cap (relative to a govt's balance sheet not yours or mine) unless it is a bankrupt banana republic ?

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Yeah, why not? If only everything that we do can go perfectly according to plan but as we all know, we'll always need something as a backup in case plan A doesn't work out.

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Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 08:24:54 AM

In contrast to you, I actually read, your other posts.

Actually I, did read, my other posts.

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Quote from: runpaint on February 09, 2015, 08:08:15 AM

Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 08:06:17 AM

Quote from: runpaint on February 09, 2015, 07:10:08 AM

Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 07:02:41 AM

Has the election campaign in the USA already started?
Or why are there so many "socialism is bad"/"Obama is a communist"/etc.-posts lately?

How many are there?

The Marxist campaign started over 100 years ago, and it hasn't ended yet. That's why there are so many "rich people (like Jews) are evil" posts, everywhere on the internet.

It's easy to blame all your problems on a small group of people, and stir up hatred based on the idea that getting rid of those people will solve all your problems.

But what are your problems, really? What do you want? Will you ever be satisfied with anything? Of course not.

By the way, why are you calling Obama a communist based on the one quote I mentioned? Are you saying that Obama calls himself a communist?

You are really a funny guy.
On the one hand, you tell me, that I shouldn't blame a small group(which I don't recall doing) on the other hand you blame socialists for everything.

So you can't even answer "What are your problems" or "What do you want". Instead you say "posts on the internet" are "everything".

In contrast to you, I actually read, your other posts. So, I can tell that you blame socialists for a lot of things.
What are my problems? Currently there is a blizzard(at least you would call it that in the USA) and I hope it ends, before I go home. But I don't blame jews for that.

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Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 08:06:17 AM

Quote from: runpaint on February 09, 2015, 07:10:08 AM

Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 07:02:41 AM

Has the election campaign in the USA already started?
Or why are there so many "socialism is bad"/"Obama is a communist"/etc.-posts lately?

How many are there?

The Marxist campaign started over 100 years ago, and it hasn't ended yet. That's why there are so many "rich people (like Jews) are evil" posts, everywhere on the internet.

It's easy to blame all your problems on a small group of people, and stir up hatred based on the idea that getting rid of those people will solve all your problems.

But what are your problems, really? What do you want? Will you ever be satisfied with anything? Of course not.

By the way, why are you calling Obama a communist based on the one quote I mentioned? Are you saying that Obama calls himself a communist?

You are really a funny guy.
On the one hand, you tell me, that I shouldn't blame a small group(which I don't recall doing) on the other hand you blame socialists for everything.

So you can't even answer "What are your problems" or "What do you want". Instead you say "posts on the internet" are "everything".

turvarya

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Quote from: runpaint on February 09, 2015, 07:10:08 AM

Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 07:02:41 AM

Has the election campaign in the USA already started?
Or why are there so many "socialism is bad"/"Obama is a communist"/etc.-posts lately?

How many are there?

The Marxist campaign started over 100 years ago, and it hasn't ended yet. That's why there are so many "rich people (like Jews) are evil" posts, everywhere on the internet.

It's easy to blame all your problems on a small group of people, and stir up hatred based on the idea that getting rid of those people will solve all your problems.

But what are your problems, really? What do you want? Will you ever be satisfied with anything? Of course not.

By the way, why are you calling Obama a communist based on the one quote I mentioned? Are you saying that Obama calls himself a communist?

You are really a funny guy.
On the one hand, you tell me, that I shouldn't blame a small group(which I don't recall doing) on the other hand you blame socialists for everything.

Mr. Code

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It think it is very plausible that bitcoin is a (gov) think tank product.

doubleredrolex

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Yeah maybe it was the CIA. Maybe the first million BTC mined are sitting in wallets owned by the CIA. Just waiting... If the world economy collapsed and BTC was the new gold standard... BTC might hit $10,000 or so pretty quick. Then if the govnt had a million coins.. they would be sitting pretty with a huge amount of wealth on hand. Interesting idea anyways.

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Quote from: turvarya on February 09, 2015, 07:02:41 AM

Has the election campaign in the USA already started?
Or why are there so many "socialism is bad"/"Obama is a communist"/etc.-posts lately?

How many are there?

The Marxist campaign started over 100 years ago, and it hasn't ended yet. That's why there are so many "rich people (like Jews) are evil" posts, everywhere on the internet.

It's easy to blame all your problems on a small group of people, and stir up hatred based on the idea that getting rid of those people will solve all your problems.

But what are your problems, really? What do you want? Will you ever be satisfied with anything? Of course not.

By the way, why are you calling Obama a communist based on the one quote I mentioned? Are you saying that Obama calls himself a communist?

turvarya

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Has the election campaign in the USA already started?
Or why are there so many "socialism is bad"/"Obama is a communist"/etc.-posts lately?

runpaint

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Quote from: 2btc on February 09, 2015, 03:39:02 AM

How does Socialism hurt the poor or lower the quality of life for everyone?

By rewarding failure and thereby creating more of it.

Black families in the United States were the fastest-growing income class, until the 1960s when the Marxists decided to sabotage them with harmful government policies.

"You can have this free apartment - but only if you're a single mother. Your husband has to leave the family if you and your kids want to stay here."

Guess what? Offer it to enough people, and some of them will take you up on it.

The Socialist policies in our government actively worked to destroy families and keep people in cycles of generational poverty, dependent on the government and helpless. Less husbands and fathers, more poverty and more prison sentences.

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And why do you not include Democratic capitalism? Surely that has failed too?

Which country would that be? In the United States, about 50% of the population pays taxes. The other half gets free money from the ones who pay taxes. And the ones getting free money are the ones under the most government control with the least hope for a better future.

If Capitalism has failed, it's only because Socialism took over a long time ago. But don't point to Socialism and call it Capitalism.

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Quote from: Beliathon on February 08, 2015, 06:12:27 PM

The wealth is generated from the labor of the workers,

They get paid for what they generate.

Quote from: runpaint on February 08, 2015, 01:19:07 PM

How is it that the quality of life for "the poor" in many nations is higher than the quality of life enjoyed by Kings and Queens throughout most of history?

Technology. That's irrelevant and moot since we aren't time travelers.[/quote]

Oh, so quality of life is irrelevant. Then how can we define poverty? That's right, just point fingers and make up hateful rhetoric.

Have you no compassion? Don't you care that the poor have been lifted out of all their problems? They don't starve, they aren't consumed with disease and filth, they live lives of comfort and leisure, their children don't die. No, you don't care. You want to reverse that progress and send us all back into lives of misery.

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Nothing like being pushed backwards in time 40 years economically in the span of 5 years.

By your stupid ideas. Capitalism pushed us forward 1000 years, and Marxism has been chipping away at it. Keep it up, maybe you'll eventually bring it all down and destroy society like you want.

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Quote from: GonnaGrinditout on February 08, 2015, 02:43:32 PM

In Japanese, Nakamoto means ‘central origin’, while Satoshi means ‘clear thinking, quick witted, wise’ i.e intelligent. The name can therefore be translated to mean ‘Central Intelligent’.

LOL

edit: wait.. seems farfetched at first but the CIA was allegedly involved in lots of other stuff to raise money like drug trafficking... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US

if they really started bitcoin as an experiment to create a new economy where they can raise funds then more power to them.

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Quote from: 2btc on February 09, 2015, 03:39:02 AM

Bitcoin isn't their Plan B. They would never introduce something they can't control.

If inbcase it was a government project, then they would definitely have a way to control it.

2btc

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Bitcoin isn't their Plan B. They would never introduce something they can't control.

Quote from: runpaint on February 08, 2015, 01:19:07 PM

Marxism, Communism, and Socialism have failed repeatedly, and have always hurt the poor and lowered the quality of life for everyone. But despite repeated failures, they still succeed in spreading the same failed ideas on the internet.

How does Socialism hurt the poor or lower the quality of life for everyone? And why do you not include Democratic capitalism? Surely that has failed too?

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Well bitcoin is decentralized, so I don't think the government would be behind something like this.

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I don't think it was by government but after seeing how it works and the concept of blockchain, we might see something similar from them, it will be more centralized of-course with restrictions.

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