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July 13, 2023, 03:21:53 AM
So far, bitcoin has had several cycles that have been repeated in roughly the same way, but each time the growth has been smaller. We cannot say for sure that these cycles will be repeated every time. There are exceptions and failures in any system. The second dangerous factor may be that bitcoin has never faced a global crisis, which is the case now. But you are right that many investors have positive hopes.
While there are many investors who have more expectations of Bitcoin, it can also be a factor that a repetition of cycles like what has happened in the past can also happen again next year even at a different price range. Because improvements and corrections are two things that have always existed in Bitcoin so this cannot be denied by anyone, even though the desire of many investors is for more positive things to happen in the next year.

That's why it is called cycle, and I doubt that it will be broken in the next block halving. And speaking of block halving, this is very unique design by Satoshi himself and that's why the price keeps getting higher and higher every 4 years because bitcoin is getting limited and scarce.

So there's no question in my mind that it's possible that we are going to hit another all time high again, in 2024-2025.

The best thing to do is simply accumulate and then HODL in the long run.
This is not a mathematical cycle that cannot be broken because it obeys a certain formula. It is a market cycle that can fail, for example because of a crisis. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that it can't be ruled out. Halving is a major factor in bitcoin deflation, but you can still buy bitcoin on the exchange in almost any quantity. Unless of course you have a trillion dollars.
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July 12, 2023, 07:54:20 PM
So far, bitcoin has had several cycles that have been repeated in roughly the same way, but each time the growth has been smaller. We cannot say for sure that these cycles will be repeated every time. There are exceptions and failures in any system. The second dangerous factor may be that bitcoin has never faced a global crisis, which is the case now. But you are right that many investors have positive hopes.
While there are many investors who have more expectations of Bitcoin, it can also be a factor that a repetition of cycles like what has happened in the past can also happen again next year even at a different price range. Because improvements and corrections are two things that have always existed in Bitcoin so this cannot be denied by anyone, even though the desire of many investors is for more positive things to happen in the next year.

That's why it is called cycle, and I doubt that it will be broken in the next block halving. And speaking of block halving, this is very unique design by Satoshi himself and that's why the price keeps getting higher and higher every 4 years because bitcoin is getting limited and scarce.

So there's no question in my mind that it's possible that we are going to hit another all time high again, in 2024-2025.

The best thing to do is simply accumulate and then HODL in the long run.
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July 12, 2023, 11:45:20 AM
To me, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are still just a money game and not a market based purely on supply and demand. Therefore, the forces manipulating the market will always know how to refresh the market, creating new tricks to attract more participants. If bitcoin doesn't hit ATH again, that will make the market boring and people will give up on it. I don't think that will happen, market makers will find ways to keep investors.
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July 12, 2023, 10:58:05 AM
So far, bitcoin has had several cycles that have been repeated in roughly the same way, but each time the growth has been smaller. We cannot say for sure that these cycles will be repeated every time. There are exceptions and failures in any system. The second dangerous factor may be that bitcoin has never faced a global crisis, which is the case now. But you are right that many investors have positive hopes.
While there are many investors who have more expectations of Bitcoin, it can also be a factor that a repetition of cycles like what has happened in the past can also happen again next year even at a different price range. Because improvements and corrections are two things that have always existed in Bitcoin so this cannot be denied by anyone, even though the desire of many investors is for more positive things to happen in the next year.
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July 12, 2023, 10:47:38 AM
Because people think that fluctuations in the bitcoin price are very high, most don't think about seeing whether ATH will happen again or not, as long as they can make a profit even though it's not as big as when ATH happened, it doesn't matter, and I think users will continue to survive even though they are looking for altcoins.

We cannot work by what others are saying, majority of them were novice and don't understand the whole explanation to bitcoin price movement, some only join in the fear and help nothing than to make it circulate faster when the market is going dip, they will not refer to the periods that the market have always surges when they are at the peak time, we should make our own research and not get too involved with the ongoing news around.
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July 12, 2023, 10:26:44 AM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin doesn't happen ATH anymore, a loyal community and continues to increase is an important key that bitcoin will survive, and this is what makes many countries legalize bitcoin, even if ATH doesn't happen again I'm sure users won't leave bitcoin.
I think that many would like to see that bitcoin will continue to reach ATH, because indeed every investor really hopes that ATH is always formed for every period that bitcoin does. because every ATH achievement that will be carried out by bitcoin will always be awaited because it also affects every movement of all existing coins. I agree that the community on bitcoin is indeed quite high but it does not rule out that the need to continue to increase and achieve renewable ATH is highly anticipated.
I think that if you don't see ATH again, of course all investors don't expect it because they are really waiting for this to continue to happen.
So far, bitcoin has had several cycles that have been repeated in roughly the same way, but each time the growth has been smaller. We cannot say for sure that these cycles will be repeated every time. There are exceptions and failures in any system. The second dangerous factor may be that bitcoin has never faced a global crisis, which is the case now. But you are right that many investors have positive hopes.
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July 12, 2023, 10:11:46 AM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin doesn't happen ATH anymore, a loyal community and continues to increase is an important key that bitcoin will survive, and this is what makes many countries legalize bitcoin, even if ATH doesn't happen again I'm sure users won't leave bitcoin.
I think that many would like to see that bitcoin will continue to reach ATH, because indeed every investor really hopes that ATH is always formed for every period that bitcoin does. because every ATH achievement that will be carried out by bitcoin will always be awaited because it also affects every movement of all existing coins. I agree that the community on bitcoin is indeed quite high but it does not rule out that the need to continue to increase and achieve renewable ATH is highly anticipated.
I think that if you don't see ATH again, of course all investors don't expect it because they are really waiting for this to continue to happen.
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June 05, 2023, 08:51:51 AM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin doesn't happen ATH anymore, a loyal community and continues to increase is an important key that bitcoin will survive, and this is what makes many countries legalize bitcoin, even if ATH doesn't happen again I'm sure users won't leave bitcoin.
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June 02, 2023, 09:13:26 AM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.
Investors who buy at $ 5000 to $ 8000 do not matter because they are already profitable from Bitcoin,
 but what about those who invest at $ 30k to $ 40k or maybe those who buy at $ 60k? I think it will be a problem if Bitcoin doesn't go to ATH,
but of course we have to be calm, I'm sure many are still not profiting from BTC and even whales also want Profit, I'm sure Bitcoin will go to ATH again.
I don't think it's a problem if bitcoin doesn't see ATH again because bitcoin is undoubtedly the most popular crypto currency. But many more such coins are in circulation. Bitcoin's nearest competitors include Ethereum, Tether, Binance Coin, Cardano and Polkadot. This competition in cryptocurrencies is good for investors. It cannot skyrocket in value. But in the case of bitcoin, it has become so popular that it has an opportunity to stay ahead of rival currencies.
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June 01, 2023, 03:34:41 PM
The interesting thing about Bitcoin is ATH, people are motivated to buy because ATH's hopes can only be achieved so that they get a big profit, if New Ath can not be achieved anymore, I don't have a problem, people will continue to actively speculate to buy because of ATH's expectations even if it does not happen.
I slightly disagree with the statement you are saying, because in the past before there were many other cryptocurrencies on the market, those who bought Bitcoin did not remember ATH at all. Even those who bought in the past were purely because they considered Bitcoin to be the best cryptocurrency so they liked it even though they had no idea about ATH, what I meant by this was those who had bought Bitcoin before ATH happened like in 2012 and also 2013.
I hope your explanation is not misleading, especially regarding one's investment and trading plans. You can't completely say that every trader and investor doesn't expect ATH, that's not true in my opinion. Each of them expects their investment to be able to provide returns, and each price can penetrate the highest price, that's why it is called ATH. Actually I'm pretty sure most people buy bitcoin after ATH, did you know that bitcoin have no value at the time the satoshis are creating them?

Every trader and investor who bought bitcoin in the 2012 and 2013 range, I think they bought after bitcoin hit ATH. It's just that, they never know whether there will be another ATH in the coming years like what we are currently experiencing.
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June 01, 2023, 02:52:55 PM
The interesting thing about Bitcoin is ATH, people are motivated to buy because ATH's hopes can only be achieved so that they get a big profit, if New Ath can not be achieved anymore, I don't have a problem, people will continue to actively speculate to buy because of ATH's expectations even if it does not happen.
I slightly disagree with the statement you are saying, because in the past before there were many other cryptocurrencies on the market, those who bought Bitcoin did not remember ATH at all. Even those who bought in the past were purely because they considered Bitcoin to be the best cryptocurrency so they liked it even though they had no idea about ATH, what I meant by this was those who had bought Bitcoin before ATH happened like in 2012 and also 2013.

why didn't it happen?
bitcoin will go back up, and reach a new ath because of the speculation of those people who brought it up.
the thoughts of the people who made bitcoin went up again because they spontaneously bought it when the time came.
What raised the price of Bitcoin was not because of speculation from many people, but because many people already liked Bitcoin so that there were many people who dared to buy spontaneously with more mature consideration, of course. So the increase in the price of Bitcoin is not because there is more speculation, but because there are more people who dare to buy Bitcoin, after which they speculate in order to lure more people to believe in Bitcoin and buy it again on the market.
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June 01, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.
This goes back to returning momentum by buying on the dip or periodically.
Regardless of all conditions, it is still possible for ATH to occur or not, as long as we are smart enough to use the momentum, I think there is actually no problem with things like this.
Conditions like this are quite natural because indeed we also have to be aware that things like this will gradually happen even though now we are still very confident about bitcoin but that doesn't mean we will be sure forever right.
Get to know what you want to do in progress because it can lead you to a good goal, as long as you have these conditions and have a target for bitcoin in making profits then indeed I think everything can still be controlled by yourself because even in this case bitcoin fluctuations continue to occur doesn't mean we just become loyal spectators when conditions like that occur.
People should really be having that kind of mindset and sticking into that general idea that this market is really just like a wavy ocean on which prices could really goes up and down on where there's no way
we could be able to tell on where the prices could eventually go.It might really be looking that bullish in a moment but ending up on being bearish on which it would really be just that normal since we know that this market is really be composed of sellers and buyers which it is really just that a normal approach that you should really be wise on making buying and selling decisions.In speaking into the topic about having that situation
for Bitcoin not to reach some new ATH then there's nothing we do able to know whether it would or wouldnt happen. Everything would really be entirely be depending on the market situation and into its
investors or the community because if we do look around on which there are really that lots of factors which would really affect out market conditions.
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June 01, 2023, 02:42:35 PM
I think Bitcoin will reach ATH again when the next halving happens. I am very optimistic that later when the bitcoin halving occurs, the price of bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. Moreover, Bitcoin has reached an all-time high price several times. In 2017, Bitcoin reached an ATH of around $20k, then experienced a significant decline in the following period. In 2021, Bitcoin reached a new ATH of around $64k before undergoing a correction.
You can be optimistic for obvious reasons, but some concerns about bitcoin's failure to reach new ATHs also exist among investors. I am not ruling out the possibility although I am sure that bitcoin will reach a new ATH in the next few years. If the halving can result in a bitcoin market cap, then ATH can only be expected a few months after the halving.

Even if ATH is not reached, returns from bitcoin can still be expected as long as bitcoin are still being traded. By now many people may already know how the market works, but some FUD and bad news globally will affect them all the time. Be strong with bitcoin until you get the target you want.
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June 01, 2023, 01:34:44 PM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.
This goes back to returning momentum by buying on the dip or periodically.
Regardless of all conditions, it is still possible for ATH to occur or not, as long as we are smart enough to use the momentum, I think there is actually no problem with things like this.
Conditions like this are quite natural because indeed we also have to be aware that things like this will gradually happen even though now we are still very confident about bitcoin but that doesn't mean we will be sure forever right.
Get to know what you want to do in progress because it can lead you to a good goal, as long as you have these conditions and have a target for bitcoin in making profits then indeed I think everything can still be controlled by yourself because even in this case bitcoin fluctuations continue to occur doesn't mean we just become loyal spectators when conditions like that occur.
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June 01, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
I think Bitcoin will reach ATH again when the next halving happens. I am very optimistic that later when the bitcoin halving occurs, the price of bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. Moreover, Bitcoin has reached an all-time high price several times. In 2017, Bitcoin reached an ATH of around $20k, then experienced a significant decline in the following period. In 2021, Bitcoin reached a new ATH of around $64k before undergoing a correction.
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June 01, 2023, 12:39:44 PM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.
Investors who buy at $ 5000 to $ 8000 do not matter because they are already profitable from Bitcoin,
 but what about those who invest at $ 30k to $ 40k or maybe those who buy at $ 60k? I think it will be a problem if Bitcoin doesn't go to ATH,
but of course we have to be calm, I'm sure many are still not profiting from BTC and even whales also want Profit, I'm sure Bitcoin will go to ATH again.
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May 31, 2023, 09:52:17 PM
Because people think that fluctuations in the bitcoin price are very high, most don't think about seeing whether ATH will happen again or not, as long as they can make a profit even though it's not as big as when ATH happened, it doesn't matter, and I think users will continue to survive even though they are looking for altcoins.
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May 31, 2023, 02:43:17 AM
For that thing that is definitely slow and the small obstacle is Bitcoin mining difficulty jumped 10% and miners have returned to mining and sometimes selling it too along with the whales. Down is the price of BTC. The good news is that the Lightning Network Bitcoin Capacity https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-lightning-network-capacity-crosses-3900-btc-marking-a-new-ath hit an all-time high of 3915,776 BTC,
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May 31, 2023, 02:24:21 AM
I think it doesn't matter if bitcoin can't set a record price or ATH, investors will always think that bitcoin is still profitable, this can be seen from the very high daily price fluctuations so it's good if we use it for daily trading, and in my opinion there might be coins that are better than bitcoin so investors don't worry.
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May 31, 2023, 12:31:20 AM
The percentage chance for Bitcoin not to see a New ATH is very low, because it's very clear from Bitcoin's white paper that Bitcoin's supply will be cut halve every four years and this makes it likely that the demand will be on the increase as times goes on, but if at all this happens and we couldn't get a new ATH, the interest to invest and trade Bitcoin will still be there but will decrease and people will still take advantages of the bull and bear market so far the volatility which Bitcoin has is still there.

The chances of Bitcoin hitting a new All-Time High (ATH) are still not that high, but especially if there is a big sell-off from either individuals or whales. However, if Bitcoin fails to reach a new ATH, interest in investing and trading may decrease but not completely disappear. People will continue to capitalize on market volatility, taking advantage of both bull and bear markets as long as Bitcoin's inherent volatility persists.
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