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Quote from: justdimin on February 28, 2023, 01:48:42 AM

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Also, it appears that the American government is beginning to accept that they cannot ban cryptocoins and the cryptospace. However, they will create strict regulations where it will make it harder for us to buy cryptocoins and where the easiest way to buy them is through illegal services hehe.

According to the details from the meeting, the G-20 presidents’ group received collaborative support from the International Monetary Fund and the US. Speaking to Reuters, Yellen mentioned that there won’t be an outright ban but rather a strong regulatory framework.

It would be silly not to have a regulatory framework to begin with. What did we expected governments to do, just let people do whatever they please? Of course not, the job of the government is to put regulations and rules so that people would follow, without the law, we are no better than the animals.

This is why we end up with such a thing and we will have that framework in order to make it even more legal. This isn't a bad thing, it's in fact a good thing because it means everyone will know what to do with it. Knowing what is legal and what is illegal is a great benefit to investors, you will have absolutely no fear left about what you are doing.

Harsh words! Wink

But don't forget for how long many governments chose to ignore Bitcoin while a lot of people suspected that this could one day going to be huge. By the time governments also came to the conclusion, the industry has already grown so much that governments didn't even know where to start with their regulation. Now I think that Bitcoin eventually benefited a lot from being ignored. The same counts for Ethereum as their ICO would have been labeled a security offering and would not have taken place. Once it grew into this massive network they couldn't stop it anyway anymore or sue someone. Now we are at a point where they did indeed realize that a ban can't be enforced.

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Their is no way a country can ban Bitcoin also ban a VPN it's impossible, I'm just exaggerating in this point, i think sometimes ago I heard that Russia don't have access in Bitcointalk but they do access the site with VPN. So therefore, I'm of the opinion that if a country ban Bitcoin accessibility, basically they will be the use of VPN for easy penetration and change of ip address of the country using VPN.

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Quote from: Uruhara on February 28, 2023, 01:49:35 PM

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That's right guys. Developed countries like the US will actually always be careful in making decisions and speaking. because a big country like the US must always be able to get support from the majority of the world community. And the US knows that Cryptocurrency is quite a sensitive thing at this time and is much loved by everyone in various countries. then apart from all the action even fud started from there. So if we pay attention to the US actually always says that they do it on the basis of the safety of their society's consumers or protecting their citizens. so of course when many US citizens enter into crypto, the government there will certainly make laws to protect its citizens to avoid fraud and so on. sometimes it does become FUD but in the end it won't lead to a ban.

In fact, every country that has banned crypto is likely to one day withdraw the ban. because the popularity of crypto and bitcoin cannot be restrained by a ban.

Also, the most important thing is that Bitcoin cannot realistically be banned.

It's like banning the Internet, there will always be ways to use it.

China has tried a lot, it never works.

Prohibition in the US for example, only created more demand for alcohol.

Same with Bitcoin, I don't think they will try to ban it in the US.

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Quote from: Woodie on February 27, 2023, 06:56:04 PM

Quote from: Uruhara on February 27, 2023, 06:32:19 PM

But it seems that a ban on Cryptocurrency is not going to happen in the US. As said by the US Minister of Finance who instead has promised strong regulation. So some tightening of the rules might actually happen but I don't think it will be a problem. and with this it is ensured that Cryptocurrency will be safe and there will be no ban.

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Refernce: https://watcher.guru/news/cryptocurrencies-safe-from-ban-us-treasury-secretary-promises-robust-regulations?

Thanks for the news.

I see this giving bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies a bullish push, it doesn't get better than this.

That's right guys. Developed countries like the US will actually always be careful in making decisions and speaking. because a big country like the US must always be able to get support from the majority of the world community. And the US knows that Cryptocurrency is quite a sensitive thing at this time and is much loved by everyone in various countries. then apart from all the action even fud started from there. So if we pay attention to the US actually always says that they do it on the basis of the safety of their society's consumers or protecting their citizens. so of course when many US citizens enter into crypto, the government there will certainly make laws to protect its citizens to avoid fraud and so on. sometimes it does become FUD but in the end it won't lead to a ban.

In fact, every country that has banned crypto is likely to one day withdraw the ban. because the popularity of crypto and bitcoin cannot be restrained by a ban.

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Well, I discussed this on WO a few days ago. While we all talked about banning Bitcoin in the United States, There is an official statement from the Treasury Secretary^[1]. I see this as a positive thing. While everyone was talking about the ban, they had a choice not to say anything about this matter. But they showed up and said nope, we will not ban bitcoin. Don't spread the FUD, kiddos.

Banning Bitcoin will affect the market slightly, and we may see a short bear market. But it won't last. I saw a quote on the internet, Everyone says Congratulations when you get pregnant. But they don't know how many times you got fucked for this. There were many regulations and ban/ban games. Still, BTC is here today.

1. The United States has no intention to ban #Bitcoin and crypto - Treasury Secretary

https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1629538419352150017

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 26, 2023, 08:07:42 PM

Also, it appears that the American government is beginning to accept that they cannot ban cryptocoins and the cryptospace. However, they will create strict regulations where it will make it harder for us to buy cryptocoins and where the easiest way to buy them is through illegal services hehe.

According to the details from the meeting, the G-20 presidents’ group received collaborative support from the International Monetary Fund and the US. Speaking to Reuters, Yellen mentioned that there won’t be an outright ban but rather a strong regulatory framework.

It would be silly not to have a regulatory framework to begin with. What did we expected governments to do, just let people do whatever they please? Of course not, the job of the government is to put regulations and rules so that people would follow, without the law, we are no better than the animals.

This is why we end up with such a thing and we will have that framework in order to make it even more legal. This isn't a bad thing, it's in fact a good thing because it means everyone will know what to do with it. Knowing what is legal and what is illegal is a great benefit to investors, you will have absolutely no fear left about what you are doing.

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You sound like you want bitcoin to be banned, but unfortunately, bitcoin is not a centralized asset or currency and no one country can make an ultra decision like you have pictured it to be.. besides the USA is a democratic country laws are not just passed on without other stakeholders chipping in.

But say it happened as you have pictured it, well we have several other countries that have given bitcoin a safe landing zone and this is where most crypto businesses that need a physical presence will likely be moving to, talk about El Salvador, Japan etc bitcoin is not going to be stopped by one country, not by a Longshot.

Quote from: Uruhara on February 27, 2023, 06:32:19 PM

But it seems that a ban on Cryptocurrency is not going to happen in the US. As said by the US Minister of Finance who instead has promised strong regulation. So some tightening of the rules might actually happen but I don't think it will be a problem. and with this it is ensured that Cryptocurrency will be safe and there will be no ban.

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Refernce: https://watcher.guru/news/cryptocurrencies-safe-from-ban-us-treasury-secretary-promises-robust-regulations?

Thanks for the news.

I see this giving bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies a bullish push, it doesn't get better than this.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 27, 2023, 04:06:13 PM

Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

Indeed it is possible but many countries are taking a friendly approach on Bitcoin. A government can't just change its stance without proper procedure. My country already acknowledges Bitcoin as a mode of payment, so it is highly unlikely that my country will ban Bitcoin. They may regulate it but I think that is as far as the government can go. Another country that can be a place haven for Biitcoin is El Salvador. With a huge amount of money that is injected to their Bitcoin venture, I do not think that El Salvador will ban Bitcoin.

I don't know whether it is about countries taking a friendly approach regarding Bitcoin. But even if a state decides not to be friendly, if they sufficiently understand the technology they would know that there possibilities to stop Bitcoin are limited anyway. You would have to implement absolutely drastic measures to effectively fight it, but any large scale enforcement of anti-Bitcoin laws would probably be prohibitively expensive if you want to sustain enforcement for a longer period of time. It is a double edged sword and while a country keeps fighting Bitcoin others might decide to welcome it and get an advantage over countries that are against it. Back in the early days there was an article from China that it wants to ban Bitcoin like every two weeks, but now they are quite quiet.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on February 20, 2023, 08:10:51 PM

Does it matter dear fellow, Bitcoin is already rejecting all the negative developments. If there's a ban still there's a chance of a small short-term panic, that's it.

My dear fellow, now it's not the time when BTC is going to notice Bans and Regulations for example back 2 years ago 3rd largest country China Banned Bitcoin trading and crypto-related stuff then Bitcoin recovered and not only recovered but also made an ATH. How many times has China banned Bitcoin I can't even count now but as you know BTC is still standing good.

Bitcoin & China time to time waving History
check this out

Now China is going to have some experiments with Bitcoin after June check this out so Ban seems impossible but it is.

https://i.imgur.com/P60aYty.png

I believe this is a big political game in cryptos, first china bani, now hong kong will be a crypto hub

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But it seems that a ban on Cryptocurrency is not going to happen in the US. As said by the US Minister of Finance who instead has promised strong regulation. So some tightening of the rules might actually happen but I don't think it will be a problem. and with this it is ensured that Cryptocurrency will be safe and there will be no ban.

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Refernce: https://watcher.guru/news/cryptocurrencies-safe-from-ban-us-treasury-secretary-promises-robust-regulations?

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Quote from: samcoin on February 27, 2023, 04:09:15 PM

Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

In my opinion, if such a thing happens, it won't happen all over the world at once. The USA can ban anything on their grounds, but can't force other countries to ban it, especially because countries like China and Russia have conflicting interests with the USA. I once read that VPNs are widely used in China as the citizens there want to take advantage of some American services. I believe if the USA banned crypto mining, China would leave their ban fast, as Bitcoin blockchain still has usages to move capitals between both countries in known and unknown ways.

To come to a common understanding on the ban of cryptocurrency is really not gonna happen in the short or the long term. When it comes to cryptocurrency ban surely there'll be conflicts between China and USA. Another thing among the entire list of countries we can see good number of countries favouring the acceptance and other countries taking a decision against bitcoin. I'm positive on this, because countries that are against bitcoin in the past have begun to regulate and accept bitcoin.

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This seems like a rather US-centrist view. Bitcoin is for the whole world, and the world is a large and complex place.

There are already countries that have banned Bitcoin (shown in red)

The reality is that Bitcoin continues to generate a new block on an average of 10 minutes, independent of how politicians around the world think.

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Quote from: wavessurfing on February 27, 2023, 03:01:45 PM

its official: no ban in US, has said Janet Yellen

Had the US really implemented this ban, they would certainly have done themselves a great deal of harm. It's just the technology of the future and sooner or later the US would certainly have lifted this ban again. However, now it's official that no ban will come and it was what I expected. Wink

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Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

In my opinion, if such a thing happens, it won't happen all over the world at once. The USA can ban anything on their grounds, but can't force other countries to ban it, especially because countries like China and Russia have conflicting interests with the USA. I once read that VPNs are widely used in China as the citizens there want to take advantage of some American services. I believe if the USA banned crypto mining, China would leave their ban fast, as Bitcoin blockchain still has usages to move capitals between both countries in known and unknown ways.

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Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

Indeed it is possible but many countries are taking a friendly approach on Bitcoin. A government can't just change its stance without proper procedure. My country already acknowledges Bitcoin as a mode of payment, so it is highly unlikely that my country will ban Bitcoin. They may regulate it but I think that is as far as the government can go. Another country that can be a place haven for Biitcoin is El Salvador. With a huge amount of money that is injected to their Bitcoin venture, I do not think that El Salvador will ban Bitcoin.

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its official: no ban in US, has said Janet Yellen

twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1629538419352150017

as well as recently reopening in hong-kong for China

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Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

That would be a very terrible situation and I would start to question the sanity of the government. What real reason is there to ban ccrypto currencies and VPNs? I don't think the government needs more ways to try and control it's citizen and I would try actively try and fight these bans. Hopefully in such a case there will be alternatives that we can use and don't have to give into the government's demands. It's one thing to ban the use of bitcoins, but can they really force us to sell all our coins? I don't think so, I would hold my coins as long as I can and not give into any demands to sell them. It's up to the people to stand up to the government when they try and exploit their power. Hopefully the ban will only stand until the next elections, when voters wake up and will change the government again.

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Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

First of all you need to know that the ban on a cryptocurrency or a bitcoin in one or more countries will not mean that bitcoin will come to an end. It is a decentralised blockchain and it will continue to run respective of few countries taking the decision to ban cryptocurrencies.

Previously China also banned bitcoin and we are also facing that US are trying to make strict regulation on bitcoin and cryptocurrencies/tokens but due to all these things there is no shortage of demand in bitcoin. People still trust bitcoin no matter what happens and will continue to trust it.

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For me it probably won't make much of an impact. because I'm still new to bitcoin. and my investment in bitcoin is also not much. and of course most people I don't think invest all their wealth in bitcoin.

But believe me if what the OP said happens then other types of digital money will come to replace bitcoin.
Humans would not be that easy to control. smart people like the creators of bitcoin will create another way out that connects us to other decentralization and escape from the dominance of the centralized system.

there will always be people who come up with new inventions who insist on decentralizing the system and want to get freedom and a system that respects privacy better.

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Quote from: Jason Brendon on February 20, 2023, 08:02:53 PM

We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

Was the world less crazy 100 years ago? Or 500 years ago? Or 1000 years ago? Can you mention some period in the human history, when the world wasn't crazy? There are way less wars right now, compared to the middle ages. We are living in the best times of the human civilization.
The topic about USA banning Bitcoin has been discussed a million times. Do you add anything new to the discussion. Nope.
If Bitcoin gets banned in the USA, it will continue to exist in other countries. The price would probably be way lower, but the blockchain will stay alive. True Bitcoiners don't care that much about the price. Grin

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