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Quote from: coinerer on July 22, 2023, 09:27:58 AM

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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

web3 Casino allows a user to gamble by connecting an Ethereum wallet in web3 technology without any account registration. In this case a non-custodial wallet Dapp needs to be used from a mobile phone and the Metamusk extension is required for desktop users. In this case web3 casino is much more secure then regular gambling site. on the other hand, there is a risk. If you connect the wallet to a scam site, the entire fund of the wallet is at risk.

The security basically depends on the people running the casino, if a team has evil intentions and aren't here to do legit business, even if it's a web3 platform, it would still not be secure and there will always be the possibility of you losing your funds in some way even if you are not sending them to the platform directly but only connecting your wallet to the platform, but they will have a way to get access to your funds once you connect it successfully.

So someone who is either going to use a centralized (web2) or a decentralized (web3) casino, they should first verify the authenticity of the platform by doing some research and then go ahead, because you can't trust anyone these days and it is your own responsibility to take care of your assets.

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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

In this case web3 casino is much more secure then regular gambling site. on the other hand, there is a risk. If you connect the wallet to a scam site, the entire fund of the wallet is at risk.

The amount of security a casino can have, even if we are talking about a decentralized one, depends not on the fact of its status as Web3 service but the quality of the code and the amount of time and effort the staff and other interested third parties invest on checking the code of the casino to patch all the bugs they find. It is common sense I think, if I open a centralized casino there is still a risk of getting my funds and the funds of my clients stolen, on both cases there must be people performing checks regularly.

Also, I think that it is secure to use Metamask together with a hardware wallet, when comes to scam websites, as long as on does not change the firmware of the device itself, the wallet will always display faithful information what one is signing with the private keys.

A decentralized casino would be in control of the site which is a plus. But there is also a risk that when a wallet is connected there they can use different types of malware to scam all the funds if someone gets into the scam site. On the other hand, if we open an account on a web2 site, it is possible to remember the email and password given there, but when we use the web3 site, if we open a new non-custodial wallet for our security, it is very troublesome to store the private key or security phrase of that wallet. So I feel comfortable using web2 casino site

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We can see that many normal casinos are now into web 3 which is a good attempt and it will make those that are also into web 3 to join the league. Even crypto project are now switching into web 3 which is a revolution from web 2 to web 3 increasing security and privacy of users. Web 3 casinos need to have the features that we need not by claiming to be a web 3 casino.

That's not accurate, a normal or a centralized casino cannot turn itself into a web3 or a decentralized casino since their business models don't match. A centralized casino requires users to create accounts, make deposits and withdrawals, do KYC, and a lot of other things while a Web 3 or a decentralized casino wouldn't require any of that since everything is done on-chain.

The biggest issue is the licenses centralized casinos have, a decentralized platform doesn't need a license to operate and that is why they don't ask for KYC as well, so it's basically not possible for a centralized platform to convert into a decentralized one after getting totally established.

One of the major differences is the convenience of the Web 3 applications to the casino is they make a fast way of the transactions I they want to deposit and make a withdrawal to the casino but at the end if you are using a centralized platform they have a power or authorization to requires you a KYC and still manage your activity if they want, else you will play into a decentralized platform so you don't need to get worry about the KYC, most of the people scared with the KYC even though most of those are level 1 like emails for your account recovery too.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 22, 2023, 12:13:58 PM

Quote from: coinerer on July 22, 2023, 09:27:58 AM

Quote from: VEMO_MANAGER on April 25, 2023, 06:14:32 AM

Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

In this case web3 casino is much more secure then regular gambling site. on the other hand, there is a risk. If you connect the wallet to a scam site, the entire fund of the wallet is at risk.

The amount of security a casino can have, even if we are talking about a decentralized one, depends not on the fact of its status as Web3 service but the quality of the code and the amount of time and effort the staff and other interested third parties invest on checking the code of the casino to patch all the bugs they find. It is common sense I think, if I open a centralized casino there is still a risk of getting my funds and the funds of my clients stolen, on both cases there must be people performing checks regularly.

Also, I think that it is secure to use Metamask together with a hardware wallet, when comes to scam websites, as long as on does not change the firmware of the device itself, the wallet will always display faithful information what one is signing with the private keys.

Decentralized casinos' security depends on its code and personnel. Casinos, banks, and social media companies follow that cybersecurity principle. I liked your phrase "regularly checking" because its about constant monitoring and improvement.

Skepticism: even the best teams and most secure codes can be cracked. Cybersecurity's beauty and terror.

Hardware wallets with Metamask are a good start. Remember: the gadget is only as secure as its previous update. Keep the firmware updated and clean. Dont relax!

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Quote from: coinerer on July 22, 2023, 09:27:58 AM

Quote from: VEMO_MANAGER on April 25, 2023, 06:14:32 AM

Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

In this case web3 casino is much more secure then regular gambling site. on the other hand, there is a risk. If you connect the wallet to a scam site, the entire fund of the wallet is at risk.

The amount of security a casino can have, even if we are talking about a decentralized one, depends not on the fact of its status as Web3 service but the quality of the code and the amount of time and effort the staff and other interested third parties invest on checking the code of the casino to patch all the bugs they find. It is common sense I think, if I open a centralized casino there is still a risk of getting my funds and the funds of my clients stolen, on both cases there must be people performing checks regularly.

Also, I think that it is secure to use Metamask together with a hardware wallet, when comes to scam websites, as long as on does not change the firmware of the device itself, the wallet will always display faithful information what one is signing with the private keys.

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Quote from: VEMO_MANAGER on April 25, 2023, 06:14:32 AM

Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

web3 Casino allows a user to gamble by connecting an Ethereum wallet in web3 technology without any account registration. In this case a non-custodial wallet Dapp needs to be used from a mobile phone and the Metamusk extension is required for desktop users. In this case web3 casino is much more secure then regular gambling site. on the other hand, there is a risk. If you connect the wallet to a scam site, the entire fund of the wallet is at risk.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 29, 2023, 02:50:26 PM

We can see that many normal casinos are now into web 3 which is a good attempt and it will make those that are also into web 3 to join the league. Even crypto project are now switching into web 3 which is a revolution from web 2 to web 3 increasing security and privacy of users. Web 3 casinos need to have the features that we need not by claiming to be a web 3 casino.

That's not accurate, a normal or a centralized casino cannot turn itself into a web3 or a decentralized casino since their business models don't match. A centralized casino requires users to create accounts, make deposits and withdrawals, do KYC, and a lot of other things while a Web 3 or a decentralized casino wouldn't require any of that since everything is done on-chain.

The biggest issue is the licenses centralized casinos have, a decentralized platform doesn't need a license to operate and that is why they don't ask for KYC as well, so it's basically not possible for a centralized platform to convert into a decentralized one after getting totally established.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

That's right, a web3 casino is supposed to be fully decentralized and has smart contracts to manage all the operations like on-chain betting, decentralized games, and no deposits and withdrawals since everything is done on-chain. If a casino doesn't have all these features and still claims to be a web3 casino, they are simply lying to their users and users also don't know what a web3 casino is.

Currently, there are only a few platforms that have these features where you connect your wallet and bet on games with your wallet balance directly without having to create an account or sign up, and the winnings will probably just be added to your wallet balance as well.

There are many casino's that claim themselves to be Web 3.0 but they are not decentralized, and they ask user to deposit the funds in order to gamble. If you find any such casino, better avoid playing there because if the casino can falsely state that they were web 3.0, then they are not to be trusted.

Many gamblers are not so techy, and they do not know exactly how to differentiate between Web 2.0 and web 3.0 caisno. A simple way to know this that if a casino asks you to login with a username and password, it is more likely a web 2.0 casino. However, if you can access a casino without login but by connecting your wallet, it is a Web 3.0 casino.

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Quote from: VEMO_MANAGER on April 25, 2023, 06:14:32 AM

Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

if you are planning to get your own casino I think God added a possible thing that I should do is to make enquiries concerning other casinos that has already been in existence, it is good to ask question because you really want to know and you want to have different opinions from people all over here but I will advise you to make inquiring by seeking or checking all over other casino platforms and their futuristic activities

I don't know if you are using artificial intelligence in writing up your text because some of your text is contradictory which is when leading them someone is not understanding then accurately because there is a lot of mixed up ideas and the misspellings of possibilities I wanted to share my ideas but due to I have scrutinize your text but I find it very difficult to understand it

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Quote from: VEMO_MANAGER on April 25, 2023, 06:14:32 AM

Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players.
So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?

if you are planning to get your own casino I think God added a possible thing that I should do is to make enquiries concerning other casinos that has already been in existence, it is good to ask question because you really want to know and you want to have different opinions from people all over here but I will advise you to make inquiring by seeking or checking all over other casino platforms and their futuristic activities

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

That's right, a web3 casino is supposed to be fully decentralized and has smart contracts to manage all the operations like on-chain betting, decentralized games, and no deposits and withdrawals since everything is done on-chain. If a casino doesn't have all these features and still claims to be a web3 casino, they are simply lying to their users and users also don't know what a web3 casino is.

Currently, there are only a few platforms that have these features where you connect your wallet and bet on games with your wallet balance directly without having to create an account or sign up, and the winnings will probably just be added to your wallet balance as well.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

That will be part of it, the most important part would be the fact those casinos do not ask for your personal information no matter what, after all that would be the best way they could have to attract players to give them a chance and for the casino to keep those gamblers as their customers.

However, we know many of those casinos which claimed to be decentralized eventually asked their customers to identify themselves, and if that is the case then there is no point at all in using them, after all we have casinos which have been around for years and which have a reputation that precedes them.

I will like to say that, any casino that claims to be decentralized and yet, ask users to submit their personal individual document for verification , this simply means the casino was never decentralized or is not completely decentralized as the casino admin claim.

It is funny to see this kind of casino and should be avoided at all costs. Pretending to be decentralized when in fact they are a centralized platform is defrauding their player for their own benefit.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 29, 2023, 12:58:53 PM

We have such casino as owl.games, it's one of the first casino I came across and claimed to be web3, gamblers can enter the casino and connect their wallet to bet or play slot quick alright, but after looking deep into the casino and its mode of operation, I discovered its not a complete decentralized casino, but most part of the casino is highly centralized, which is why they can ask users to submit their personal documents for kyc verification.

Casino with third-party game providers such as Slots will never be decentralized because the provider itself is already a centralized entity. So how could a decentralized platform get the service of centralized service and claim that they are decentralized? I can agree that they could be using web3 technology but their blockchain system is possibly integrated in a centralized system making the casino itself a centralized gambling platform.

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We can see that many normal casinos are now into web 3 which is a good attempt and it will make those that are also into web 3 to join the league. Even crypto project are now switching into web 3 which is a revolution from web 2 to web 3 increasing security and privacy of users. Web 3 casinos need to have the features that we need not by claiming to be a web 3 casino.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 29, 2023, 12:44:19 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

That will be part of it, the most important part would be the fact those casinos do not ask for your personal information no matter what, after all that would be the best way they could have to attract players to give them a chance and for the casino to keep those gamblers as their customers.

However, we know many of those casinos which claimed to be decentralized eventually asked their customers to identify themselves, and if that is the case then there is no point at all in using them, after all we have casinos which have been around for years and which have a reputation that precedes them.

I will like to say that, any casino that claims to be decentralized and yet, ask users to submit their personal individual document for verification , this simply means the casino was never decentralized or is not completely decentralized as the casino admin claim.

We have such casino as owl.games, it's one of the first casino I came across and claimed to be web3, gamblers can enter the casino and connect their wallet to bet or play slot quick alright, but after looking deep into the casino and its mode of operation, I discovered its not a complete decentralized casino, but most part of the casino is highly centralized, which is why they can ask users to submit their personal documents for kyc verification.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

That will be part of it, the most important part would be the fact those casinos do not ask for your personal information no matter what, after all that would be the best way they could have to attract players to give them a chance and for the casino to keep those gamblers as their customers.

However, we know many of those casinos which claimed to be decentralized eventually asked their customers to identify themselves, and if that is the case then there is no point at all in using them, after all we have casinos which have been around for years and which have a reputation that precedes them.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

To my understanding, if you are able to connect to a gambling website and gamble there without the need for registration and login, but connecting using a noncustodial wallet, that is a web3 casino. Just like the matamask wallet that you talked about.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 27, 2023, 05:58:53 PM

Web3 is decentralization, it takes power and authority from single entities and distribute it to the entire people of this world - there are several business that claim to be decentralized, but in real sense, they are not, they are probably partially decentralized.

What supposed to be web3 has been changed by people's manipulations. Web3 supposed to be decentralised but according to how it was created and what people turned it to, there is possibility that it would be centralised in the future. Also almost all the platforms like the so-called smart contract decentralised exchanges are not completely decentralised.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 27, 2023, 05:58:53 PM

You are right, but it doesn't end there, there are some self proclaimed web3 casinos that are not truly a web 3 casino, having to login only with walletconnect and other defi means does not necessarily conclude that the casino is a complete web3.

True, and that's how other part of the industry are, most cryptocurrency projects that claim to solve a particular problem don't solve that problem but only hoping on the hype of that trend to pump their project so they make profits and run away in the bear market.

This is the reason we have many projects dying during the bear market. Cryptocurency is mostly about promises and not fulfilments. We have had many casinos promise to be decentralized but later get exposed for not been decentralized.

Many gamblers are also not informed, they think just because they get connected through their wallets to the casino website, that they're operating on a web3 casino. Like we have with metaverse and other Defi projects, most of the casinos parading as a web 3 casino aren't.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

I would say yes, but it would also depends on the degree of decentralization the casino has. What is the point on logging in with your public keys if you eventually need to submit KYC anyways or if the games of the platform are not open source for anyone to audit and see if they are fully provably fair?

If we take a centralized casino and we add the option to logging in with Metamask, that won't turn the casino into a Web.3 one, unfortunately.
I am yet to hear about a web 3 casino which complies with my personal definitions, I may be too picky, tho.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2023, 04:28:13 PM

Back to the main subject, I have a question: can anyone give a clear definition of what is exactly a web3 casino? I read all the of the above replies and it seems that we are arguing about something that we don't even know what it is!
As per my experience, any casino which allows logging in via metamask or any other wallet that supports walletconnect, claims it is a web3 casino. Is this right?

You are right, but it deosnt end there, there are some self proclaimed web3 casinos that are not truly a web 3 casino, having to login only with walletconnect and other defi means does not necessarily conclude that the casino is a complete web3.

Web3 is decentralization, it takes power and authority from single entities and distribute it to the entire people of this world - there are several business that claim to be decentralized, but in real sense, they are not, they are probably partially decentralized.

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We are already getting more deep into this advanced technology and development with the use of AI, it's a situation where you feel the reality of virtual world in the present time, it has advanced many areas of the economy including the gambling and yet we are still warming up and have not arrived, enough with the rule of the centralized gover in our lives, I believe the technology will bring more of the good than the bad I the nearest future.

I agree with the fact that technology is involved and a lot of new developments alongside hypes are being introduced into the e-gaming industry with the metered verse and yet coupled with web3 decentralized finance that make gaming experience upgraded and also brought with it a lot of its disadvantages.

But then, I can't possibly fortune out a way that AI will play any significant role in this direction and as a matter of fact, AI gaming has not been successful as a project.

Web 3.0 basically has nothing to do with Artificial Intelligence, both are different technologies developed to serve different purposes. Web 3.0 will bring decentralization to the web and allow users to experience the best experience when they are using a website that has been created utilizing web 3.0 technology, it also provides the user with privacy.

Web 3 brings the feature of integrating blockchain to the gambling platform. Being decentralized or centralized depends on the owner's implementation which one the owner wanted to implement. After all blockchain tech isnt only decentralized.

Quote from: lixer on May 22, 2023, 04:20:30 PM

Artificial Intelligence on the other hand is a different ball game altogether, it has been developed to help people with their tasks and works by providing the best solutions available by searching and finding out about it in data available from the past.

I agree AI is another technolgy and is different from Web 3. One thing with AI is that enable automation and even gives decisions that matter.... So I think AI can bring enhancement to web 3 if integrated.

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