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Topic: What is all this "Satoshi" drama? (Read 898 times)

legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
June 10, 2019, 07:27:47 PM
#78
Well, it is not just about the identity of Satoshi as such

Let's not forget that he presumably has around 1M bitcoins, which is worth almost 8B dollars at present prices. If you take into account this little fact, things start to look somewhat different (mildly speaking), and finding out who is hiding behind the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly stops being a matter of pure curiosity or idle interest. In other words, this individual has good reasons to keep his incognito (while others to break it)

If he hasn't moved them by now, why would he ever move them? He clearly doesn't need them for financial reasons, and he hinted with his statements about lost coins that they might be a "donation" to Bitcoin holders. If Satoshi were planning to spend these coins, it would have made sense to move some of them early on to prevent all this folklore about "the Satoshi coins." I think under most scenarios, those coins are long lost.

The bigger question for me is when quantum computing might allow some entity to steal them. Since so many of these early bitcoins are held on exposed pubkeys (instead of pubkey hashes), this is a distinct possibility.
member
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June 10, 2019, 04:16:08 PM
#77
I think that we should not speak not about Satoshi Nakamoto himself, but first of all we need to decide on how exactly cryptocurrency users react to this or that information.  What if someone now begins to spread the information that Satoshi nakamoto is a fictitious name, or will even spread the information that Satoshi nakamoto’s wallets are starting to withdraw Bitcoin to Fiat?  What will happen then?  This can lead to collapse, as everyone is very amenable to emotions.
legendary
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June 10, 2019, 01:34:49 PM
#76
We live in a world where people always want to know the source and identity of  everything or individuals behind any idea or invention. But I don't really think knowing the identity of Satoshi is necessary  since Bitcoin has been around for 10 years now and still operating perfectly. I just hope all this drama will come to an end soon

Well, it is not just about the identity of Satoshi as such

Let's not forget that he presumably has around 1M bitcoins, which is worth almost 8B dollars at present prices. If you take into account this little fact, things start to look somewhat different (mildly speaking), and finding out who is hiding behind the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly stops being a matter of pure curiosity or idle interest. In other words, this individual has good reasons to keep his incognito (while others to break it)
hero member
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June 10, 2019, 07:24:50 AM
#75
We live in a world where people always want to know the source and identity of  everything or individuals behind any idea or invention. But I don't really think knowing the identity of Satoshi is necessary  since Bitcoin has been around for 10 years now and still operating perfectly. I just hope all this drama will come to an end soon..... 
hero member
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June 10, 2019, 04:57:49 AM
#74

One more assumption,  maybe CW's trying to overtly bring the case to the point of absurdity, so that Satoshi's patience on this matter has just about run out so that he himself showed  his face  to the public.


Right so he pretends to be Satoshi, knowing that he isn't, but thinks that by ruining the crypto community that the real Satoshi will come forward and shut fools like CW up?

I bet you if that did happen, you would see CW play it cool like 'oh this is what I intended all along, I thought it was important we all found out who the real Satoshi was so I just pretended to be him!'

CW needs to put up evidence properly, or shut up.

legendary
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June 10, 2019, 01:25:49 AM
#73
Its bitcoin entertainment.

If we dont have it, we will die of boredom, looking at the daily charts.

back in my day, we were plenty entertained by bitcoin's volatility---the walls, the dumps, the roller coaster. we didn't need stupid drama like satoshi imposters and 51% attack threats.

i found the block size debates of 2016-17 interesting enough because people were not so stubborn and tribal yet. today, everyone has already made up their minds and politics are pointless. all the drama seems so contrived and probably more aimed at pumping altcoins (like BSV) than legitimately trying to move bitcoin forward.
sr. member
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June 09, 2019, 07:51:54 PM
#72
Its bitcoin entertainment.

If we dont have it, we will die of boredom, looking to the daily charts.

I'd rather let my investment sleep rather than watching these imposters flooding fake news everywhere just to get noticed. Looking at the daily charts is enough to make myself get busy and stop thinking too much shit since it is quite frustrating to keep an eye always on the market. Let them do what they want i don't need any attention seeker who's too fund of exploiting almost everything with the use of their money.
sr. member
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June 09, 2019, 07:38:53 PM
#71
Its bitcoin entertainment.

If we dont have it, we will die of boredom, looking at the daily charts.
full member
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June 09, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
#70
Curiosity is the main and the underlining cause of this Satoshi drama. Personally, I have had enough of people trying to find the real identity of Satoshi and people like  Craig Wright just wanna take advantage of this mystery behind Bitcoin and claim he is Satoshi. 
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June 09, 2019, 01:09:07 PM
#69
I very much doubt that if society does not know more about Satoshi Nakamoto, your warm fleece cryptocurrency market.  Of course, the price of Bitcoin still affects the price of all cryptocurrencies, but the name is unlikely to affect Bitcoin pricing.
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June 08, 2019, 10:39:00 PM
#68
I guess this is, good thing because with the turbuling rumor about Satosi Nakamoto the bitcoin will have a lot of adoption than before. And likely Bitcoin will be able to reach the new ATH. Like 2017 yesterday.
legendary
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June 08, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
#67
Why would Craig Wright, who is Australian and white, pretend to be a Japanese man that specifically used Canadian English?

Did I miss something?

I don't really know why Craig Wright would pretend to be a Japanese man. But that's not my point. All I want to say is that Satoshi being a Canuck can be just a spell checker at work here and nothing more (or else). And it is not proven either that Satoshi is actually a Japanese. It is not even certain that he is a human being at all (as "he" may well stand for "they"). I don't know how that fits into a Tensorflow graph, though

He would have likely interjected broken English instead to compensate for the man being Asian

Don't tell God what to do

Did I mention I am a team lead for AI at my desk job?

I thought you were porntoken. Kidding aside, are you implying I should fall victim to a so-called authority bias? If anything, it looks more like you can't actually come up with anything plausible against a good old spell checker. So much for being a team lead for AI (or whatever you are doing in real life)

Satoshi disappeared when 3-letter agencies started infiltrating the community. Maybe that's not a coincidence

Yeah, but you don't tell what kind of coincidence that could be. Most importantly, had he chosen or been chosen to disappear? It seems like you are implying the former, but on a second thought, though, you might have actually meant something else
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
June 08, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
#66
Here's what it all boils down to:

Did the real Satoshi predict and compensate for the advancements in machine learning and convolutional networks 10+ years ahead of time and intentionally fool them?

Probably not. Lets use the modern AI tools at our disposal to unveil him now. Text analisis should be childsplay for Caffe2.

Go ahead and try. We're all waiting. Your domain registration analysis was less than convincing. Wink

Satoshi intentionally used generic language and writing style. I believe he obscured his identity using best practices at the time, but history shows that even best practices -- in hindsight -- are constantly leaking identifying information that can be analyzed later. I doubt such clues will do average joes much good, but agencies like the NSA are in a much better position to zero in on him.

Satoshi disappeared when 3-letter agencies started infiltrating the community. Maybe that's not a coincidence.
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June 08, 2019, 10:46:04 AM
#65
This is called negative publicity! Craig Wright wanted to come in the discussion and successfully he did! People are buying the shit BSV coin that's why it has come in the top ten crypto coin list! John McAfee is lier and this Craig too! We should stop talking about these liers!
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June 08, 2019, 09:28:13 AM
#64
I also do not understand how the disclosure of Satoshi's identity can affect bitcoin. If he wants his identity exposed, he'll do it. I don't know why we're looking for him. It's just a normal curiosity, nothing more.
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June 08, 2019, 08:38:33 AM
#63
I know how we've been through the roller-coaster type journey of a decade with Bitcoins and the skepticism we've all had in our minds about the identity of Satoshi, and then everything started off like this:

May 2016: Craig Wright claims he is Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto



He failed to prove that he is Satoshi during then, still just tried his best to poke the community every now and then to make them believe he is the creator of Bitcoin.

Nov 2018: Another 'Satoshi Message' Attempts to Sway Public Opinion, But Fails


And then, this:
A "dicksucker" claimed he knows Satoshi and he'll leak him to the community.

April 2019: John McAfee Says He Knows True Satoshi Identity, Promises to Reveal It Soon

And then, the April Fool:


While all of this happening, a website was formed during this timeline which claimed to do the same - reveal Satoshi.

May 2019: Satoshi Website Triggers Countdown to ‘Live Unveiling’ of Bitcoin Creator


Fucked up already? Don't be, there's more.

May 2019: Craig Wright Attempts to Copyright the Satoshi White Paper and Bitcoin Code



I don't really get it what's in the benefit of Satoshi if he is found? Or what is actually good for the commission if he's revealed? I don't really believe Craig Wright to be Satoshi, you know why?

For all the Satoshi(s) in the limelight, I've got one question here, if you've not got they keys with you to prove yourself as Satoshi -

One of my favorite comments:
"If he really is, he can go onto bitcointalk.org and make a post under Satoshi’s account saying who he is. Otherwise he’s a lier. Or what? Did he forget his password?! Lier lier. And a twat."
Source of this comment: https://amp.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/brc0n8/craig_wright_is_not_satoshi_nakamoto_the/
I dont know what this man wanted to do, I believe he wanted the fame as the creator of the bitcoin, in my opinion the creator of bitcoin would'nt show himself to public and he will keep himself hiding, cause i believe bitcoin are made to make an anonymous transactions and i do believe it bring no good to reveal his own identity to public.
member
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June 08, 2019, 08:19:53 AM
#62
I think this drama was made for fun but some people are taking this too seriously. Who cares if someone knows Satoshi or not. Does it have an impact for the bitcoin's price? or some relevant stuffs? If Satoshi's identity is found then good for those who spends time knowing it but for me it is just a waste of time. That's all but thanks for him for making a good invention which is the bitcoin for pioneering the cashless society that would be useful for some time.
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arcs-chain.com
June 08, 2019, 06:26:18 AM
#61
this is just a bit more spice for the crypto soap opera... you have a BTCowboy, a McRambo and the master Satoshi (long lost creator of the religion)... love it...
why people don't just focus on evolving crypto to change the world?
such persuit of fame, for what?
hero member
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June 08, 2019, 06:00:28 AM
#60

One more assumption,  maybe CW's trying to overtly bring the case to the point of absurdity, so that Satoshi's patience on this matter has just about run out so that he himself showed  his face  to the public.


Right so he pretends to be Satoshi, knowing that he isn't, but thinks that by ruining the crypto community that the real Satoshi will come forward and shut fools like CW up?

I bet you if that did happen, you would see CW play it cool like 'oh this is what I intended all along, I thought it was important we all found out who the real Satoshi was so I just pretended to be him!'

CW needs to put up evidence properly, or shut up.

CW is not satoshi because he has given no proof of ownership till date, also he has not been able to shift satoshi's coin too. Satoshi is wanted by all governmental organizations, but how many governmental organizations are chasing CW?. The answer is none cause the government knows he's not the real satoshi, and they're ignoring his antics we too should do the same.
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June 08, 2019, 05:45:05 AM
#59

One more assumption,  maybe CW's trying to overtly bring the case to the point of absurdity, so that Satoshi's patience on this matter has just about run out so that he himself showed  his face  to the public.


Right so he pretends to be Satoshi, knowing that he isn't, but thinks that by ruining the crypto community that the real Satoshi will come forward and shut fools like CW up?

I bet you if that did happen, you would see CW play it cool like 'oh this is what I intended all along, I thought it was important we all found out who the real Satoshi was so I just pretended to be him!'

CW needs to put up evidence properly, or shut up.
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