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Topic: What is going to happen with these signature campaigns ? (Read 884 times)

hero member
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I think Ritz is out because it is hard to get ppl play at unhonest casino.

And Stunna have said that he is going to make much better rates next month, so I think that means signature campaigns are very effective.
And as far they are effective they are going to keep competition about that who pays highest/gets more ppl join.
And if it starts look like it isn't effective enough anymore, then they just put down rates little bit.
global moderator
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And he wasn't responding with any proof of what they were requesting. I don't think he ever provided verifiable proof of his casino being provably fair, and that burden of proof is on him. Ritz himself did more damage to his reputation and business than any trolls concerned users ever did. If he'd've provided the proof and conducted himself better there wouldn't've been any problems and nobody would've questioned his intent in the first place.
sr. member
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What I said is still true regardless of whether he did up the rates on different occasions. And he wasn't attacked by trolls, that was just his excuse. He was only 'attacked' by people concerned about several aspects of his casino and sig deal, all of which he dealt with in a very unprofessional manner adding to further scepticism about him.

They were tirelessly attacking him with no proof of what they were affirming. That's extremely damaging for a business, and there's no good way to answer to their attacks. It's quite understandable, how that made him cross the threshold to "answering in a very unprofessional manner".

Thankfully, that unwarranted bad rep is cleared now.
global moderator
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What I said is still true regardless of whether he did up the rates on different occasions. And he wasn't attacked by trolls, that was just his excuse. He was only 'attacked' by people concerned about several aspects of his casino and sig deal, all of which he dealt with in a very unprofessional manner adding to further scepticism about him.
sr. member
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Last time Bitcoin-prices went up, the payouts of these ad-campaigns went down. I imagine that will happen again when Bitcoin goes up significantly again.

 I did find it ironic though that Ritz used this excuse for not upping the rates when the price went down by quite a bit but now the price has gone up it matters  Cheesy.

That's not true, Ritz has adjusted the rates in a positive directions quite a few times!

I believe his goal with this signature campaign was to gain trust in the Bitcointalk community, since his casino was unjustly attacked by trolls. Since they've reached that goal, it would not make much sense for them to continue, especially with such high rates.
legendary
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If their profits are good, they can offer a high rate for a large crowd in periods of low prices. As bitcoin prices climb, I believe we will see lower rates as well as tighter restrictions on participants, targeting senior quality posters. If sites are making good profits, sig campaigns will always be here. There is no place with a higher concentration of bitcoin users than here, anywhere in the world. Exposure here will guarantee visitors to their sites.
hero member
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They can always fix the price of advertisement/post in $ and pay in BTC that way they don't have to worry about price hyke or any other factors.
sr. member
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They can limit memberships, adjust prices, lower the max payouts etc.

I am not too worried at this point. 
full member
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bitcoinnaire
Like I said I hope these posts signature campaigns don't go anywhere, aside from altcoin this is really the only way for me to get bitcoin right now at the moment. I predict if the price goes up the rates will go down but I think that's already been said.
full member
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The prices will balance out to a profitable level for advertisers. I'd imagine they will reduce in time, but its hard to tell...
legendary
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many of them get paid in bitcoin, so i think that won't affect them if BTC prices rising
i love to see their rate increase every month, good for us as partcipants Grin
only 3 campaigns who still offer pay per post (primedice, fxopen, updown) since ritz was closed, so it's not "most of them" like you said

they should limit the paticipants like fxopen do, and limit the post per week/month too to cut down spam post
global moderator
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Last time Bitcoin-prices went up, the payouts of these ad-campaigns went down. I imagine that will happen again when Bitcoin goes up significantly again.

They're not going to continue if it's not profitable for them to do so. They'll simply either stop or lower the rates. Remember, they get paid in bitcoins so if they're still taking coins in it arguably shouldn't matter about the fiat value. I did find it ironic though that Ritz used this excuse for not upping the rates when the price went down by quite a bit but now the price has gone up it matters  Cheesy.

Maybe a fixed price system some of the deals like GAW offer for a minimum amount of posts would suit better and cut down on spam.
hero member
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Carpe Diem
Before you freak out about them ending, if that's your fear, wouldn't it make more business sense to lower the payments and see if it's worth it, instead of just eliminating them?  And I don't see evidence any of them are going to be lowered, just 1 or 2 discontinued.  In fact some are going to be raising prices so I think they can keep going strong for a while.
legendary
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There are currently atleast 10 signature campaigns running on the forums.

Most of them offer the same format of payment (per post , with around 0.0015 for hero members).

More and more people are joining these campaigns , but as BTC prices and the offered price is rising , the value per post is going to become huge.

I cannot think of any other place where around 60$ would be paid per month for such small advertising.

So , as the advertising space is not much and yet campaign makers that refuse to continuously increase are eliminated , what is going to happen ?

RGC has broken down and has closed currently , but UpDown , PD and all the other lookalikes sufficiently fill up that void.


TLDR; Bitcoin is rising again , campaign prices are rising, what is going to happen to these campaigns ?

As places are making profit, they will continue their campaigns. When they are no longer profitable, they will stop. I think it's pretty obvious, isn't it? It's just business.
sr. member
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Where do you find these signature offers?  It is definitely worth considering.  Gotta love some BTC for free.

Here is an overview of the available sig ads:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-ad-campaigns-last-update-01-jan-23-615953
sr. member
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Where do you find these signature offers?  It is definitely worth considering.  Gotta love some BTC for free.

Look under services. Prime Dice is a good one but I am clearly biased.  Cool
full member
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Where do you find these signature offers?  It is definitely worth considering.  Gotta love some BTC for free.
legendary
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Last time Bitcoin-prices went up, the payouts of these ad-campaigns went down. I imagine that will happen again when Bitcoin goes up significantly again.

Of course it will. This isn't rocket science.
This is actually where PrimeDice could take the lead. Last time, they stayed at the same price for way longer than other campaigns, and that earned them a huge amount of members.
legendary
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Last time Bitcoin-prices went up, the payouts of these ad-campaigns went down. I imagine that will happen again when Bitcoin goes up significantly again.

Of course it will. This isn't rocket science.
legendary
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Last time Bitcoin-prices went up, the payouts of these ad-campaigns went down. I imagine that will happen again when Bitcoin goes up significantly again.

That is about right the exchange rate per post drops after a certain price point
I believe it was 1000 dollars the last time primedice adjusted its rates down and then it steadily increased it as new entrants entered into the marketplace to compete with its price.
That said if the price rises a lot in a short period the ad rates will decrease in bitcoin
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