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Quote from: Omegasun on May 31, 2017, 02:44:38 AM

Quote from: ufaiz50 on May 31, 2017, 01:02:19 AM

in my opinion is a sportsbetting because there is no program here is very difficult to cheat especially if big match. but if you're really looking for a fair game I'd rather have a player vs player like poker maybe.

only in sportsbetting the word fair can be connected in gambling since we can do analysis and theres a basis on what to bet.

well its been known that results in sports events can be manipulated by big dogs though I agree, in general, sports betting is generally fair compared to other gambling games. also poker and other pvp card games are better as the results of thr opponent won't be from the house you're betting against

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on May 31, 2017, 01:02:19 AM

in my opinion is a sportsbetting because there is no program here is very difficult to cheat especially if big match. but if you're really looking for a fair game I'd rather have a player vs player like poker maybe.

only in sportsbetting the word fair can be connected in gambling since we can do analysis and theres a basis on what to bet.

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in my opinion is a sportsbetting because there is no program here is very difficult to cheat especially if big match. but if you're really looking for a fair game I'd rather have a player vs player like poker maybe.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 12:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

You share a common misunderstanding that "the house always wins" because casino operators somehow cheat, but this is not true, you are right that casinos exist for profit, but they are earning it in a very transparent way, they have the house edge, which means that you have slightly less chances to win and slightly more chances to lose. Also they have a limit on maximum bet which prevents someone with a huge amount of money to quickly win and quit. I believe that it's totally fair, it can be considered as a payment for opportunity to gamble, after all running a casino requires some spendings - server costs, marketing, developing and maintenance, staff, etc.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 12:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

I do not know what you mean, it is obvious casinos open their business to win money they are not charities, however it is very important to prove they are not cheating their players and changing results after the fact that is why they prove they are probably fair and anyone can test their claims to be true or not, in fact before you play with any big amount of money in any casino you should do it.

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Quote from: BitcoinzB on May 30, 2017, 07:42:18 AM

If you're looking for a fair game, go for poker vs other real players or sports betting.
Other games will always have an house edge, which will lower your chances to win especially in the long term betting

I agree poker is the first one that I've thought upon reading the question of OP. There's no house advantage included if you will play against with other poker players. Dice games, sports betting and other luck based games are depending and giving the house much advantage so the closest one is only poker and that's for me.

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I would regard any site as "fair" regardless of what their actual house edge is.

Most Bitcoin gambling sites have a very similar house edge or fee - somewhere between 0.5% and 1%, some of which is often distributed to bankroll investors.

The only thing that would make me consider a site fair is whether it's literally provably fair. If a site has that, it's fair. Period.

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Quote from: BitcoinzB on May 30, 2017, 07:42:18 AM

If you're looking for a fair game, go for poker vs other real players or sports betting.
Other games will always have an house edge, which will lower your chances to win especially in the long term betting

That is true , player vs player based games is the most comfortable game to play without worry get cheated.
I mean there is still possibility the game operated shady but it is not as huge as any other games right?
I will say agree with you poker should be the fairest game for anyone.

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So far so good, my bet will still be on sport betting because in that case, winning or losing is not determined by the site but the players and it can easily be determined if any site wants to cheat or not. All I need is just to check live scores on Google anytime during the match which does not even need my attention then I go back to check if my winnings have been credited or losses has been deducted not more than that.

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If you're looking for a fair game, go for poker vs other real players or sports betting.
Other games will always have an house edge, which will lower your chances to win especially in the long term betting

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Quote from: bajing on May 30, 2017, 04:20:28 AM

Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 12:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

Honestly I don't understand about it but I try to believe it when playing the dice game even though there arises mind disbelief with the results I get when I experience defeat but no one can prove it.

Doubts cant really be removed on our minds regarding on dice results even those gambling sites do really show some seeds or hashes on each bet but I do confidently like to play on those sites rather than have nothing to show off. No one could really prove it when we do suffer lose on playing dice knowing that these type of games does really require extreme luck for you to be profitable.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 12:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

Honestly I don't understand about it but I try to believe it when playing the dice game even though there arises mind disbelief with the results I get when I experience defeat but no one can prove it.

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Hard to say, I do recall playing in a 0.10% house edge game, but it did not last long probably because that edge is profitable, Sportsbetting is the closest to fair though, as everything is done on a global scale and not a dice nudge in a closed script.. SB juice is 5-10 and still some players are making decent profit from them.

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Quote from: Pattberry on May 30, 2017, 01:52:16 AM

Sports betting is by the fairest gambling that i know off,since almost all of the gambling sites have a house edge and you really could not predict whether you will be winning or not but when it comes to sports the results are publicly available and the house cannot manipulate anything,so i consider them as the fairest way to gamble.

sportsbetting rarely get fixed , so it could be the fairest game but considering the edge are so flexible sometimes could as high as slots and sometimes could have so low edge depends on an events, i will choose the annoying dice game with its constant edge at 1% or lower.

the problem are on how you can always verify your game , will you do it everytime you roll it? it is not necessarry but always makes curious isn't it?

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Sports betting is by the fairest gambling that i know off,since almost all of the gambling sites have a house edge and you really could not predict whether you will be winning or not but when it comes to sports the results are publicly available and the house cannot manipulate anything,so i consider them as the fairest way to gamble.

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Quote from: The_prodigy on April 24, 2017, 08:41:51 AM

Sports betting the best and fairest bitcoin betting I know from the start the odds are pretty good and always fair when you are in advance of betting then you could see how it works I only prefer to gamble when basketball are good NBA is one of the most favorite bets I always go for.

Agreed, than the Casinos and other slot games sports betting is better in terms of provably fair. Though the odds were generated with certain house edge, we can make a winning with the prior betting and then taking part when the match goes live. Mine is tennis as it gives increased winning chances.

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I like to play at bitvest.io and I like playamo which is where I have won many times. Otherwise it all feels shady, but that is probably paranoid sounding. Casinos are profitable mostly for the casino.

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Sports betting the best and fairest bitcoin betting I know from the start the odds are pretty good and always fair when you are in advance of betting then you could see how it works I only prefer to gamble when basketball are good NBA is one of the most favorite bets I always go for.

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I only prefer to gamble on sports so I think sports betting is the fairest place to invest your money as if you have good strategy and skills then you can expect some profits from it and it is not based purely on luck unlike casino games.

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Op, if you are so deeply worried about possible exploits in provably fair system dice sites and bitcoin casinos are using why don't you try sport betting?
There is no way that bookmaker will cheat you in any way, at least not when it comes to determine if your bet was won or not.

And so you know, poker sites are still taking part of your money when you play. It is still business.

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