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Quote from: ralle14 on April 24, 2017, 02:21:11 AM

There are tons of fair bitcoin gambling games here like crypto-games, luckybit, bustabit, bitkong, bitsler, fastbets and many more. As long as you can verify your own bet, the game is fair for me.

Quote from: btcdevil on April 23, 2017, 05:14:33 PM

I think you are confused as what ever you said is correct but just check the highlighted one you are telling that in long term house edge is making profit and same you are telling in short term house always wins due to greedy of players. How can in short term gambling becomes greedy, it should be like this that if any site is going down or in loss it is due to that their are some players who are playing for short term and as soon as they are in profit they just withdraw and go away so this way only the house edge are in loss, because in long term only mainly they are in profit. Because greediness comes only when in short term you start to earn and then you start to play for long and here you start to lose it.

I think the house could still win in the short term if their players are having a bad luck. There's always no gurantee of making profit in the short term as the game is so random you could lose right away in your first couple of dice rolls.

Already gambling websites have been programmed in such a manner to get good profit from theusers. Again the bad luck of the users gives more profit for the gambling house. An example for this is the recent days popularity of gambling websites as well the profit they've made.

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Quote from: Red-Apple on April 24, 2017, 06:40:13 AM

there is no such thing as "banker" in gambling that you keep naming it, i wish you explained what you mean. and i believe Dice is the fairest game out there. you can never cheat it and not get caught as the house. but in other games like poker for example, as the house, you can easily cheat your players and nobody can ever find out!

and please keep in mind that being fair doesn't mean you should always win or make profit.

I think what he trying to say about banker is a third party provider that takes benefit.
In a provably fair games such as dice , blackjack and any other table games exclude poker.
Where the third party 'banker' take some percentage as their benefit from the game from the players.

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there is no such thing as "banker" in gambling that you keep naming it, i wish you explained what you mean. and i believe Dice is the fairest game out there. you can never cheat it and not get caught as the house. but in other games like poker for example, as the house, you can easily cheat your players and nobody can ever find out!

and please keep in mind that being fair doesn't mean you should always win or make profit.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

Well, i played dice games in all my gambling games and still i can say its really important to me and i know its traceable and provable fair that what i like about it and also dice game is profitable to me its not that hard and you can't really get scammed by the game itself and surely you will play fair and win fair..

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There are tons of fair bitcoin gambling games here like crypto-games, luckybit, bustabit, bitkong, bitsler, fastbets and many more. As long as you can verify your own bet, the game is fair for me.

Quote from: btcdevil on April 23, 2017, 05:14:33 PM

I think you are confused as what ever you said is correct but just check the highlighted one you are telling that in long term house edge is making profit and same you are telling in short term house always wins due to greedy of players. How can in short term gambling becomes greedy, it should be like this that if any site is going down or in loss it is due to that their are some players who are playing for short term and as soon as they are in profit they just withdraw and go away so this way only the house edge are in loss, because in long term only mainly they are in profit. Because greediness comes only when in short term you start to earn and then you start to play for long and here you start to lose it.

I think the house could still win in the short term if their players are having a bad luck. There's always no gurantee of making profit in the short term as the game is so random you could lose right away in your first couple of dice rolls.

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Quote from: piloder on April 18, 2017, 02:40:08 PM

Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

Sha256 string is provided by most of the dice sites to prove that they don't modify the results after you place bet. All results are pre-generated and a encrypted string is shown to players so they can verify the results afterwards. This however doesn't guarantee that house will not make any profit, house will always make profit with house edge on long term and in short terms house always wins due to greed of players.

I think you are confused as what ever you said is correct but just check the highlighted one you are telling that in long term house edge is making profit and same you are telling in short term house always wins due to greedy of players. How can in short term gambling becomes greedy, it should be like this that if any site is going down or in loss it is due to that their are some players who are playing for short term and as soon as they are in profit they just withdraw and go away so this way only the house edge are in loss, because in long term only mainly they are in profit. Because greediness comes only when in short term you start to earn and then you start to play for long and here you start to lose it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 18, 2017, 02:55:01 PM

Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

Sorry, I don't get it. Who cares either a banker has a motivation to win or not since a game is provably fair? His motivation changes nothing. What he can do though is to set a house edge, but I think if he operates a gambling site with decent design and 24/7 support he just can't survive without a house edge. So it's up to players to decide whether they want to spend their time in a nice environment accepting a banker and his house edge or they want to play one on one without any additional features but also without any additional pay, but it has nothing to do with fairness.

How can you say his motivation changes nothing ? It changes everything !! Who says the house edge is what they banker says it is. I don't understand how you can read something completely logical then argue with it. What are you even telling about the house edge for ? Do you know what is going on ? Pvp is always better because it's against another player you lose to then then the bank takes 1% from the winner.

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Dice is of course any day the most trusted. The other one maybe blackjack or maybe lottery. Reason for blackjack is most of the times i win in it and lottery basically depends on amount of tickets purchased. I feel sports betting is also fair but that is different type of gambling.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

0% rake poker or sports betting since you can gain an actual edge. Other than that if you want to gamble for fun any of the long term established BTC sites are decent.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

I think most fairest game is rock paper scissors lizard spock player vs player - in live. You can bet if you like.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

Sorry, I don't get it. Who cares either a banker has a motivation to win or not since a game is provably fair? His motivation changes nothing. What he can do though is to set a house edge, but I think if he operates a gambling site with decent design and 24/7 support he just can't survive without a house edge. So it's up to players to decide whether they want to spend their time in a nice environment accepting a banker and his house edge or they want to play one on one without any additional features but also without any additional pay, but it has nothing to do with fairness.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

Sha256 string is provided by most of the dice sites to prove that they don't modify the results after you place bet. All results are pre-generated and a encrypted string is shown to players so they can verify the results afterwards. This however doesn't guarantee that house will not make any profit, house will always make profit with house edge on long term and in short terms house always wins due to greed of players.

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Quote from: Loepuenkyou on April 18, 2017, 01:52:17 PM

is dice game, you can find house edge under 1%
but is the best fairly, bitcoin gambling you can playing sportbetting
or poker and blackjack player vs player

i think there is only small site that really fair in gambling because the main purpose of gambling site is to get much of profit from the gamblers. and if we do playing gambling, then we should know the risk and we should know when we need to stop or continue to played. without doing this, no matter if the site is fairly, we can not win much of money and we can loss money that we have. so i think, when we are playing gambling, we need to thinking more about how much we can spend our money and avoid our loses in long term.

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Quote from: luckyminority on April 18, 2017, 01:17:58 PM

i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

numbers and codes wouldn't lie , but those people who write the numbers and codes are the only one who can lie that makes the game not fair . any games that has provably fair and verified should be the fairest games, the problem are people who get lost would never accept the fact that they are lost and always blame it on the game , people should start to gamble responsibly. however my favorite game that i think fair enough is a live dealer games.

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is dice game, you can find house edge under 1%
but is the best fairly, bitcoin gambling you can playing sportbetting
or poker and blackjack player vs player

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i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players.

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