What is the meaning of wars and ignorance? - page 2.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 26, 2020, 05:13:39 PM

For some communities that are from from urban living, harmony is happening. There's a system that we've been following and the people who are wealthy which are in the form of oligarchs, the ones who don't want to make this happen.

Quote from: electronicash on July 25, 2020, 01:07:54 PM

its a dreamer's dream. it will never happen because we've already produced a lot of ammo for the war. lets rumble already.

It's a dream for us who have been living with this for a long time and I admire those communities that are being looked down, yet, they are the most welcoming communities or tribes that are living in peace together with other people.

The true nature of human beings are evil, there will be no peace in our society if the leaders of our nation are focusing on war and chaos. Right now, that dream is seems impossible because most of strong nation have now weapon of mass destruction or what they called nuclear bomb. Many people say that there will be no peace if there is no war, I do not think war is only the option to have peace. If we will abandon all the weapon of mass destruction, peace will come to all of nations.

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Quote from: spike420211 on July 25, 2020, 12:23:32 PM

It's very hard to wake up. In order to wake up, you first need to realize that a person is sleeping, but we are not aware of this. Therefore, all people are in a dormant state.
So it should be, if things could be different - they would be. Start with yourself, this is the only thing you can do in the current situation.

I completely agree that you always need to start with yourself first, always focus on what you do or don't do yourself.
And, if possible, help other people wake up.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 26, 2020, 02:30:38 AM

Quote from: uneng on July 25, 2020, 03:47:37 PM

I believe wars aren't happening for inequality reasons, but for envy reasons.
A hardworking country which achieved its development and success will get undesirable attention from other countries which live in worse conditions. Instead of working and developing themselves by their own merit, these envious countries' rulers try to destroy the most advanced ones, so everyone can be *equal*, living miserably in ignorance. That is what we can call chaos or shadows, also very well portrayed even in fantasy movies.

Wars have been and will be. To say that someday it will stop is utopia. What are they for? It's simple, it's a profitable business. Most developed countries spend the most money on weapons, maintenance, and the development of weapons. Economic development is supported by investment in weapons. Since the demand for war has always been and will be. And of course, this is decided not by ordinary people, but by big politics. The scary thing is that someday if the wars do not stop, the planet will simply forget about humanity.

Well, I agree somehow with "economic development is supported by investment in weapons".
I believe first world economies are so advanced mainly due to their hardworking capacity, educational level and technology achieved. Then weapons investment is a need, as they have to protect themselves from other nations which may try to destroy or steal everything they made so far. Without investment in weapons these countries would be too fragile, without any support.

Since the beginning it was like that. Advanced cultures were raided by barbarians who couldn't develop through an intelligent way. Then weapons, walls, war machines were needed to preserve their cultures and their people.

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For some communities that are from from urban living, harmony is happening. There's a system that we've been following and the people who are wealthy which are in the form of oligarchs, the ones who don't want to make this happen.

Quote from: electronicash on July 25, 2020, 01:07:54 PM

its a dreamer's dream. it will never happen because we've already produced a lot of ammo for the war. lets rumble already.

It's a dream for us who have been living with this for a long time and I admire those communities that are being looked down, yet, they are the most welcoming communities or tribes that are living in peace together with other people.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on July 25, 2020, 01:32:27 PM

Quote from: electronicash on July 25, 2020, 01:07:54 PM

its a dreamer's dream. it will never happen because we've already produced a lot of ammo for the war. lets rumble already.

there has to be war to make peace. or there has to be an alien invasion before we can unite the 4 corners on this world and only then we can send just 2 native persons from Inuit tribe like adam and eve to an empty planet to colonize it and only then that family can restart. lets exclude ourselves to that new peaceful world we are already corrupted and all bad eggs.

Don't be so sure. The world would have to unite to fight a greater threat for it to happen, but it's a possibility. It doesn't have to be some kind of alien attack, but a comet or some big natural disaster. Right now people are focused on showing off and flexing their muscles but this state of matter can change in an instant.

or World War Z which everyone can turn into zombie when infected by coronavirus. Grin

there may be a president that will one day have the realization that one way or another we're all going to die. so lets do it and maybe the tiny population that is left will make this world a better place.

or it could struck us later that the truth is always going to be stranger and countries that has walls will see that it has no purpose anymore because China had built the longest road from china to Europe and back to unite us all.

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Quote from: uneng on July 25, 2020, 03:47:37 PM

I believe wars aren't happening for inequality reasons, but for envy reasons.
A hardworking country which achieved its development and success will get undesirable attention from other countries which live in worse conditions. Instead of working and developing themselves by their own merit, these envious countries' rulers try to destroy the most advanced ones, so everyone can be *equal*, living miserably in ignorance. That is what we can call chaos or shadows, also very well portrayed even in fantasy movies.

Wars have been and will be. To say that someday it will stop is utopia. What are they for? It's simple, it's a profitable business. Most developed countries spend the most money on weapons, maintenance, and the development of weapons. Economic development is supported by investment in weapons. Since the demand for war has always been and will be. And of course, this is decided not by ordinary people, but by big politics. The scary thing is that someday if the wars do not stop, the planet will simply forget about humanity.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 25, 2020, 11:44:07 AM

Currently we have some economic system which is mainly based on the wealth inequality, if everyone in the world are united and have equal amount of wealth then the system will get collapsed.Wars are happening due to the inequality as well, if a country don't have some resource then they will make war with other country and will steal their resource which is not new this is been followed since human kind born.

I believe wars aren't happening for inequality reasons, but for envy reasons.
A hardworking country which achieved its development and success will get undesirable attention from other countries which live in worse conditions. Instead of working and developing themselves by their own merit, these envious countries' rulers try to destroy the most advanced ones, so everyone can be *equal*, living miserably in ignorance. That is what we can call chaos or shadows, also very well portrayed even in fantasy movies.

Quote from: josephsonand on July 25, 2020, 06:30:17 AM

If we are all interested in harmony everywhere (with nature, with other people), so that we are all as one (different, but like brothers and sisters to each other), then why are we not moving in this direction?

I really can move on this direction, but what is the point in doing this if others aren't? I can speak for myself, but not for others.
And by doing this, I will be exposing myself too much to the malicious people who don't want to move this way, consequently I will be exposing the ones I love and putting them in risk as well.

Then weapons, guns, ammo are necessary to protect the good side of the world we want to preserve from the evil forces who don't want to walk towards this harmonic direction you talk about.

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Sooner or later we will come to such a model, or to its semblance. It is too early to talk about this now, since we live in a world of wrong values. We live in a world of private property and personal gain. Everyone thinks only of himself, but not of others. These are our values. Therefore, what you are talking about is impossible, for this you need to change people's thinking.
When each person thinks that he will not survive without other people and that he is alive thanks to them, then something may change. But to come to this thinking we will have to go through a lot of shocks.

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Quote from: electronicash on July 25, 2020, 01:07:54 PM

its a dreamer's dream. it will never happen because we've already produced a lot of ammo for the war. lets rumble already.

there has to be war to make peace. or there has to be an alien invasion before we can unite the 4 corners on this world and only then we can send just 2 native persons from Inuit tribe like adam and eve to an empty planet to colonize it and only then that family can restart. lets exclude ourselves to that new peaceful world we are already corrupted and all bad eggs.

Don't be so sure. The world would have to unite to fight a greater threat for it to happen, but it's a possibility. It doesn't have to be some kind of alien attack, but a comet or some big natural disaster. Right now people are focused on showing off and flexing their muscles but this state of matter can change in an instant.

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its a dreamer's dream. it will never happen because we've already produced a lot of ammo for the war. lets rumble already.

there has to be war to make peace. or there has to be an alien invasion before we can unite the 4 corners on this world and only then we can send just 2 native persons from Inuit tribe like adam and eve to an empty planet to colonize it and only then that family can restart. lets exclude ourselves to that new peaceful world we are already corrupted and all bad eggs.

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It's very hard to wake up. In order to wake up, you first need to realize that a person is sleeping, but we are not aware of this. Therefore, all people are in a dormant state.
So it should be, if things could be different - they would be. Start with yourself, this is the only thing you can do in the current situation.

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Currently we have some economic system which is mainly based on the wealth inequality, if everyone in the world are united and have equal amount of wealth then the system will get collapsed.Wars are happening due to the inequality as well, if a country don't have some resource then they will make war with other country and will steal their resource which is not new this is been followed since human kind born.

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If we are all interested in harmony everywhere (with nature, with other people), so that we are all as one (different, but like brothers and sisters to each other), then why are we not moving in this direction?

If all people are united, there will be no shortage of anything. It will be beneficial for me that people around me live well. Even, for example, a bandit or a swindler will benefit from it, because he will be able to apply his skills in a slightly different direction, and people will love him for the fact that now he helps everyone. Don't we all want this?

But you need to "wake up" for this (at least some large part of society). If you woke up, if you don't see the point in aggression and ignorance, then show people by your example how great it is to live in harmony with yourself and with the world around you. Over time, people will see this and will also become more sane. This is just a small effort that can change the world! And it all depends on each of us! Bring goodness to this world, this is the only real value!

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